TungstenDuck

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To remind us all again. .



I'm just gonna say it. Here's the thing. DMD was seemingly the only VN of this type and quality that was willing to go all the way down the spiral of corruption. Now its not. Here's the problem with that, Dots. .and you know who. .

I've forgotten how many VNs I've played that do this incest thing better than DMD. The only appeal it ever had to a large swath of people was that it at one point purported that it would go places fetish wise that others would not. Without that. .uh. .Whaddya got? Something that should have ended about 6 updates ago? Sorry not sorry.
 

armion82

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I don't do that whole self insertion thing with the MC and I wanted a far falling corruption story that eventually lead to all the originally planned fetishes with this pure and clueless cute girl becoming a depraved sex fiend by the end of it. But sense that has stalled and there is only going to be one more relatively vanilla corruption level event to be done it seems.. . I've kinda checked out. You guys are wanting a 1:1 vanilla relationship while I was hoping she'd become a renowned bestiality internet porn star.

It SEEMED like all the ground work was there early on with the corruption points including things like exhibitionism. But. .I guess its going to fall far far shorter and more vanilla than all that. .even with another chapter to go. ..
Don't lose hope.
 

BloodyMares

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To remind us all again. .



I'm just gonna say it. Here's the thing. DMD was seemingly the only VN of this type and quality that was willing to go all the way down the spiral of corruption. Now its not. Here's the problem with that, Dots. .and you know who. .

I've forgotten how many VNs I've played that do this incest thing better than DMD. The only appeal it ever had to a large swath of people was that it at one point purported that it would go places fetish wise that others would not. Without that. .uh. .Whaddya got? Something that should have ended about 6 updates ago? Sorry not sorry.
While I didn't really care about the whole "corruption" thing or particular fetishes (though I'm all for sharing her with other guys, because that's what any father has to ultimately learn to do), I did wonder what it would be like to see D with 0 petals left, and what kind of a person she'd become. I understand your frustration. It's always annoying when your expectations are set-up in one way, only to discover that you're not going to get what you were promised. But for the objectivity's sake, this is one long-ass game, and lots of stuff were implemented conceptually, only to be scrapped later (the profession choice, the friendship points, the Boobs/Ass/BDSM/Sharing points etc.). The Bestiality kink was scrapped when the narrative was developed and it became clear that this particular kink wouldn't be in character for D or others. The downside of these long games on Patreon is that all the development process is open, and all of the concepts are marketed as features, even if it's too early to say for sure if they're going to make it into the final product. I don't see Mr. Dots suddenly "remembering" what his initial concept was, and implement it to "honor the promise". He changed the game, and we can only accept it and move on. If you think you have gotten everything from the game that was interesting to you, it's okay to drop it. Dwelling on it is not productive and energy-consuming.
 

cxx

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You forgot that they were out of school at beginning and then Valentines Day in Chapter 2. Then F needing time to find D and travel to her and then all the events between. Someone would of had something by now
unless all were born in january.
 

Holy Bacchus

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To remind us all again. .



I'm just gonna say it. Here's the thing. DMD was seemingly the only VN of this type and quality that was willing to go all the way down the spiral of corruption. Now its not. Here's the problem with that, Dots. .and you know who. .

I've forgotten how many VNs I've played that do this incest thing better than DMD. The only appeal it ever had to a large swath of people was that it at one point purported that it would go places fetish wise that others would not. Without that. .uh. .Whaddya got? Something that should have ended about 6 updates ago? Sorry not sorry.
Summer With Mia similarly started off looking like it was going to be a total corruption game and its earliest version even had Mia engage in a bit of bestiality which was later scrapped in the original RPGM version, as were all the side scenes where she's having sex with random guys when they did the Ren'py remake. That game too evolved into one where the characters, particularly Mia, were starting to develop romantic feelings for each other because it turns out that the kind of games where the lead female is a total slut who fucks anything and everything aren't as popular as ones with some kind of story with feelings involved where the MC gets any and all girls and is the only man in their lives.

I'd honestly say that this game has much broader appeal because it doesn't involve extreme fetishes and is a relatively simple tale of love between a father and daughter, with the occasional lesbian scenes and the MC being with other women which also has broad appeal.
 

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Summer With Mia similarly started off looking like it was going to be a total corruption game and its earliest version even had Mia engage in a bit of bestiality which was later scrapped in the original RPGM version, as were all the side scenes where she's having sex with random guys when they did the Ren'py remake. That game too evolved into one where the characters, particularly Mia, were starting to develop romantic feelings for each other because it turns out that the kind of games where the lead female is a total slut who fucks anything and everything aren't as popular as ones with some kind of story with feelings involved where the MC gets any and all girls and is the only man in their lives.

I'd honestly say that this game has much broader appeal because it doesn't involve extreme fetishes and is a relatively simple tale of love between a father and daughter, with the occasional lesbian scenes and the MC being with other women which also has broad appeal.
Its appeal is its Taboo pandering id argue. Loli looking cast (and in personality too - these are made out to be older than they are with how inexperienced and naïve some are with things like sex never mind theyre literal school girls), corruption, incest and even now pandering to the cucks who want to see their love interests and offspring boned by others - I see a lot of people put the game down as 'vanilla' but honestly I aint seeing it myself. It can be wholesome in its story certainly but these fetishes are extreme to about 98% of the population but I guess on sites like this where are so used to these feitishes theyre desensitised to them.
 
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RustyV

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Do I personally think we will see extreme sex acts by D that were hinted at when this VN was released? No.
Right now the focus is on D winning the model competition. DMD has become story driven rather than corrupting D driven.

At the present the corruption petals are still a part of the VN, but if I were to bet I'd say the remaining petals will drop in Chapter 4.
That is if DMD retains the petals at all. But I doubt eliminating them will happen. Seeing what D will do to drop a petal has become a part of the VN's appeal. Even if for some who don't like the fetish they are still curious about what sexual sport the next petal will permit D to indulge in corrupting her a bit further.
 

Holy Bacchus

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Do I personally think we will see extreme sex acts by D that were hinted at when this VN was released? No.
Right now the focus is on D winning the model competition. DMD has become story driven rather than corrupting D driven.

At the present the corruption petals are still a part of the VN, but if I were to bet I'd say the remaining petals will drop in Chapter 4.
That is if DMD retains the petals at all. But I doubt eliminating them will happen. Seeing what D will do to drop a petal has become a part of the VN's appeal. Even if for some who don't like the fetish they are still curious about what sexual sport the next petal will permit D to indulge in corrupting her a bit further.
Well, considering that they got rid of the points display for tits, ass, exhibitionism, etc, it's possible the petals will no longer matter as well, although there are still some things she could do that would get rid of the remaining few.

Right now I have 5 petals left (I'm assuming everyone is the same), and in the menu it says the following:
  • You can try anal with her (in certain situations)
  • You can have threesome relationships (with certain girls)
  • You can have public sex (Always)
One petal could be lost if the first one changes to, "You can have anal sex (Always)", and another could be lost if the 2nd one changes to, "You can have a polyamory relationship (with certain girls)". For the last 3 petals, you could have:
  • D can use a strap-on with other girls (Always)
  • You can DP her (strap-on or other guy)
  • You can have group sex (with certain girls and/or guys)
 

RustyV

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I like your remaining petal guesses.
I think the petal problem is how do you reconcile the D only with the D sharing petals?
Most D only-ers are already muttering that the VN is the same every update, no shit. You're on D only, which really limits your sexual antics. So any "corruption" for D only may not be a corruption in D sharing.
IMO that will limit what corruption D will have. Unless the team creates a two-petal system.
One for D only.
One for D sharing.
 

Holy Bacchus

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I like your remaining petal guesses.
I think the petal problem is how do you reconcile the D only with the D sharing petals?
Most D only-ers are already muttering that the VN is the same every update, no shit. You're on D only, which really limits your sexual antics. So any "corruption" for D only may not be a corruption in D sharing.
IMO that will limit what corruption D will have. Unless the team creates a two-petal system.
One for D only.
One for D sharing.
I reckon that for the people on the D-only path, they will just have a lot of petals left over as the "true" path was always the more adventurous one where she experiments with others and with different sexual activities. Therefore, those who have played the "D + everyone" path will be able to unlock all petals, and those who played D-only will not.
 
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Jeff Steel

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I never got that feeling about this game at all. This game has, to me, always felt like it would evolve into a romantic love story between D & F and that other characters, primarily the other girls, would become a part of it. Mr Dots may have started out wanting to throw in all sorts of crazy kinks and fetishes, but it's clear they have changed their approach when you look at both this game and their other games (Melody and Sunshine Love) and that their strength now lies in telling sweet, emotional, romantic stories that also feature lots of sex.

That may be "vanilla" but it works for these games and Mr Dots is good at it. I honestly cannot imagine the D from the beginning of the game or the D from this point in the story going down a really depraved route, and it honestly wouldn't suit her to do so and could actually ruin this game if she did.
I think the route we take has more to do with our world views.
 

RustyV

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I noticed that D only players as a group seem to prefer Mr Dots other VNs, while D sharing players as a group prefer DMD.
In other words D sharing players seem to be more tried and true to D while D only players like to play the field.
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SuperLYC

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I noticed that D only players as a group seem to prefer Mr Dots other VNs, while D sharing players as a group prefer DMD.
In other words D sharing players seem to be more tried and true to D while D only players like to play the field.
That is me, but how…did you set cameras in my house:unsure:
 

Kryptozoid

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So was there ever an official statement saying "no dogs no gangbangs" or are you just all speculating ? Nothing against it, it's something to do between 2 releases, I understand.

If indeed there was no official statement, I tend to see the officialisation of chapter 4 as time to go towards these goals. I must admit I don't have much hope about the dog, but I don't see why gangbangs or orgies would be so far fetched. Sure it's hard to imagine believable enough story points for these events to happen, but it's not like the premise of the story was super realistic in the first place, and it was all sufficiently well told so that we collectively agreed to believe it.

Some of you are comparing DmD to Melody or Sunshine Love, and you're forgetting that those games are on Patreon and DmD isn't. If I was in MrDot's shoes, I would like to have a game where I have more freedom to explore more extreme fetishes to counter balance Patreon's biggotery. Aka "let's make porn as safe and family friendly as Disneyworld".

That's why I can see MMF, gangbangs, and orgies in the future of DmD, and maybe a dog. As long as there's no foot fetish, too much lesbian sex, sex with food or hard BDSM I will be happy.
 

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So was there ever an official statement saying "no dogs no gangbangs" or are you just all speculating ? Nothing against it, it's something to do between 2 releases, I understand.

If indeed there was no official statement, I tend to see the officialisation of chapter 4 as time to go towards these goals. I must admit I don't have much hope about the dog, but I don't see why gangbangs or orgies would be so far fetched. Sure it's hard to imagine believable enough story points for these events to happen, but it's not like the premise of the story was super realistic in the first place, and it was all sufficiently well told so that we collectively agreed to believe it.

Some of you are comparing DmD to Melody or Sunshine Love, and you're forgetting that those games are on Patreon and DmD isn't. If I was in MrDot's shoes, I would like to have a game where I have more freedom to explore more extreme fetishes to counter balance Patreon's biggotery. Aka "let's make porn as safe and family friendly as Disneyworld".

That's why I can see MMF, gangbangs, and orgies in the future of DmD, and maybe a dog. As long as there's no foot fetish, too much lesbian sex, sex with food or hard BDSM I will be happy.
Originally beastiality was a tag for the game but was removed a while ago. There have been hints here and there that it could still happen but what you read about it in here is the same thing repeated update after update after update. Has also been mentioned that no NTR would happen or sharing of D but you never know about the sharing part
 
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