DA22

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Doesn't matter, it was there. It has been included since the early stages of the game. There is a dialogue choice with Martin in Chapter 2 that only appears if you started the sharing path in Chapter 1. It also lets you keep the route open or close it. When you start a new game in Chapter 3 it even asks you if you wanted the Martin path. All three chapters have given the player the ability to start or stop a mmf sharing path.

Since you probably skipped the content, there is a choice of porn movie that F and D watch in Chapter 3. One of them is a mmf movie featuring a while girl, white man and a black man. Watching that movie continues the Martin path. Martin is brought up during the day in unrelated context. This leads D to having a sex dream involving Martin, which confuses her. She then asks questions to know him better before he arrives and finds out quite a lot about him and then she gets to spend a lot of time with him when he arrives. She can accidentally see him naked if she takes him a towel when he is in the shower. He then spends time with her as he gives her training. Depending on your choices there is some accidental touching. It is a slow process but one that has been planned by MrDots since the first Chapter.
Even if you are right that they left that option open in chapter two, the fact is that until chapter 3 they have done absolutely nothing about developing those parts of the game, two years of not developing them does give the game a character that you do not change suddenly without big risks, planned or not.

Now I do not know about you, but if someone just sees one porn movie and then dreams of other guys, especially BBC and then immediately thinks of one of your friends I will be searching for another woman. :p But that is just lousy writing actually more than anything else and shoehorning martin in as an option cause they want to after not having developed a reasonable reason and relation in first two years, not cause it makes sense. :ROFLMAO:

The corruption of D might have been planned from start, but the way they have developed the game was not in line with that and the slowness of development and how MC centric it was by making D the default MC suddenly after having been just a NPC for two years just does not fit. Better have made a new game then about D ten years after F suddenly died of a heartattack in a threesome. Now of course they can shoehorn it in now in chapter 3 and 4, but you do break the established character of the game.
 
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Even if you are right that they left that option open in chapter two, the fact is that until chapter 3 they have done absolutely nothing about developing those parts of the game, two years of not developing them does give the game a character that you do not change suddenly without big risks planned or not.

Now I do not know about you, but if someone just sees one porn movie and then dreams of other guys, especially BBC and then immediately thinks of one of your friends I will be searching for another woman. :p But that is just lousy writing actually more than anything else and shoehorning martin in as an option cause they want to, not cause it makes sense. :ROFLMAO:

The corruption of D might have been planned from start, but the way they have developed the game was not in line with that and the slowness of development and how MC centric it was by making D the defaault MC suddenly after having been just a NPC for two years. better have made a new game then about D ten years after F suddenly died of a heartattack in a threesome. Now of course they can shoehorn it in now in chapter 3 and 4, but you do break the established character of the game.
The developer clearly disagrees with you. Besides, when you come up with a story you have to keep some ideas for later in the story. George Lucas came up with a nine part draft for Star Wars. He didn't put all of his ideas into just one movie. He spread them out. I also gave a brief summary of the content. It plays out more in the actual chapter. Since you are unaware of the content, how can you possibly give an accurate rebuttal on it?
 

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Even if you are right that they left that option open in chapter two, the fact is that until chapter 3 they have done absolutely nothing about developing those parts of the game, two years of not developing them does give the game a character that you do not change suddenly without big risks, planned or not.

Now I do not know about you, but if someone just sees one porn movie and then dreams of other guys, especially BBC and then immediately thinks of one of your friends I will be searching for another woman. :p But that is just lousy writing actually more than anything else and shoehorning martin in as an option cause they want to after not having developed a reasonable reason and relation in first two years, not cause it makes sense. :ROFLMAO:

The corruption of D might have been planned from start, but the way they have developed the game was not in line with that and the slowness of development and how MC centric it was by making D the default MC suddenly after having been just a NPC for two years. Better have made a new game then about D ten years after F suddenly died of a heartattack in a threesome. Now of course they can shoehorn it in now in chapter 3 and 4, but you do break the established character of the game.
You do realize that your constantly saying the same thing over and over again, is getting really old?
Especially when everyone who responds to your posts disagrees with you and points out why what you are saying is wrong.

Sharing/ MMF has been a planned option since chapter "1". Obviously, they could not jump right into doing it, because you do not logically take a sweet and innocent girl and turn her into a complete slut practically overnight, as you would have needed to do to have that content in either chapter 1 or 2.

Turning her into that slut would take time and harder and harder experiences, as has been happening with each release.

You can scream all that you want about the sharing, but it is coming, "AS AN OPTION" that you can choose not to play.....
 

DA22

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You do realize that your constantly saying the same thing over and over again, is getting really old?
Especially when everyone who responds to your posts disagrees with you and points out why what you are saying is wrong.

Sharing/ MMF has been a planned option since chapter "1". Obviously, they could not jump right into doing it, because you do not logically take a sweet and innocent girl and turn her into a complete slut practically overnight, as you would have needed to do to have that content in either chapter 1 or 2.

Turning her into that slut would take time and harder and harder experiences, as has been happening with each release.

You can scream all that you want about the sharing, but it is coming, "AS AN OPTION" that you can choose not to play.....
Uhm turning her into a slut overnight, while just having entered into a relationship with her dream man is however what is planned according to you and you think makes sense storywise. :p It would have made way more sense if she had been easily corruptible from start and had been fucking before update 10. If it had been planned from start the team should have been doing serious corruption work and laying those foundations with others way earlier in chapter one already and I am not talking one choice where you opened a possible eventual path and not after two years.
 
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Uhm turning her into a slut overnight, while just having entered into a relationship with her dream man is however what is planned according to you and you think makes sense storywise. :p It would have made way more sense if she had been easily corruptible from start and had been fucking before update 10. If it had been planned from start the team should have been doing serious corruption work and laying those foundations with others way earlier in chapter one already and I am not talking one choice where you opened a possible eventual path and not after two years.
Is there a broken record emoji?
 

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Uhm turning her into a slut overnight, while just having entered into a relationship with her dream man is however what is planned according to you and you think makes sense storywise. :p It would have made way more sense if she had been easily corruptible from start and had been fucking before update 10. If it had been planned from start the team should have been doing serious corruption work and laying those foundations with others way earlier in chapter one already and I am not talking one choice where you opened a possible eventual path and not after two years.
She has had a very strict parent watching her every move.
She has had limited access to what is out there sex wise.
But.
That parent is now out of the picture.
She now has someone telling her to explore her sexuality.
She has Elena who has often talked about sex.
She has been exposed to hardcore MMF pornography.
She has been told to think for herself.
She has experienced sex with women.
she has experienced group sex with another woman and a man.

As you can see, she has been opening up and growing more and more sexually inquisitive, with F's blessing. In your play through of the game, she is apparently a sweet and innocent and loving girl, but the game is for other people with other fetishes to play also.
They did not build the game for a limited audience. They made the game for many people with different kinks to play.

How could you say that it will drive off the romance people, when one of the original planned fetishes in the game was BEASTIALITY??? And Sharing was blatantly mentioned as coming in the future. Anyone with common sense read the tags for the game and knew this going into the game.
 

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The developer clearly disagrees with you. Besides, when you come up with a story you have to keep some ideas for later in the story. George Lucas came up with a nine part draft for Star Wars. He didn't put all of his ideas into just one movie. He spread them out. I also gave a brief summary of the content. It plays out more in the actual chapter. Since you are unaware of the content, how can you possibly give an accurate rebuttal on it?
You do realize that Lucas did have a draft for 9 but almost 90% of it never made it past draft. So besides a new hope the rest don't even resemble the draft.
 
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DA22

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The developer clearly disagrees with you. Besides, when you come up with a story you have to keep some ideas for later in the story. George Lucas came up with a nine part draft for Star Wars. He didn't put all of his ideas into just one movie. He spread them out. I also gave a brief summary of the content. It plays out more in the actual chapter. Since you are unaware of the content, how can you possibly give an accurate rebuttal on it?
You also know that quite a lot of fans are not great fans of any of the later pars of the series right? Devs are not always right though, it is their game in the end so if they want to put it in I cannot stop them even if I think it makes no sense and give you valid reasons why it is stupid and does make no sense the way they are forcing it in and have developed the game in first two years. Just glad I am not them. :p

The fact I actually have no vested interest in the game even if kept following the development after chapter 1 should tell you I am looking at it without a personal interest or want something in or out of the game and just look at it from a perspective of making sense. I really do not care whether D goes swinging, gets gangbanged, blackmailed by judge or whatever, since I will not see it anyway nor will play the F-D path. Peace and out. :p
 

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She has had a very strict parent watching her every move.
She has had limited access to what is out there sex wise.
But.
That parent is now out of the picture.
She now has someone telling her to explore her sexuality.
She has Elena who has often talked about sex.
She has been exposed to hardcore MMF pornography.
She has been told to think for herself.
She has experienced sex with women.
she has experienced group sex with another woman and a man.

As you can see, she has been opening up and growing more and more sexually inquisitive, with F's blessing. In your play through of the game, she is apparently a sweet and innocent and loving girl, but the game is for other people with other fetishes to play also.
They did not build the game for a limited audience. They made the game for many people with different kinks to play.

How could you say that it will drive off the romance people, when one of the original planned fetishes in the game was BEASTIALITY??? And Sharing was blatantly mentioned as coming in the future. Anyone with common sense read the tags for the game and knew this going into the game.
I played the very first version of the game and though I do rarely play games where beastiality is involved so it would not have scared me off. Pretty sure though there was no remark from Mr Dots here or on patreon in those days that beastiality was planned I would have remembered that since it is pretty rare, sharing probablywas but then again the thing is after two years doing nothing with that content it changes the character of what you should expect from a game. Now please stop quoting me so I can leave you all in peace and enjoying yourselves with the planned corruptions. :p
 

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Yeah and the romantically inclined players that the game focused first two years on will feel way worse about it as me, to me it just makes no sense and does not fit the feel of the game until now or even the current feel of the game in chapter 3 based on my remarks of second paragraph. As long as D does not get raped, blackmailed while she likes it or similar I will survive. :p To me this is about as big a blunder a dev could make concerning big parts of his established fan base and their expectations based upon the first years of development, but luckily I am not the dev and will not have to deal with the fallout that will be there without a doubt.
I hope and emotionally confident that F will be one with whom D will continue to want to share this journey. I will not rationally list the reasons for this, then their magical power will disappear. You can simply look at the story not from the point of view of the final formal fixation of D near F, but from the point of view of the fact that their love is really unique, wonderful and powerful for both, and any trials are just roads that lead them to the final and eternal understanding of this ... And if something or someone is able to break their connection, which exists at the level of the unique smell of blood and ferromones in the air, then this connection is not like that, and is just ordinary history of corruption. Hope this is not the case.

At the same time, it is interesting that this quest is actually not only and not so much even for the characters, but for the players themselves, who are faced with a choice - to give in to their frivolity in assessing the seriousness of the connection between F and D (and embark on side intrigues), or else, despite the temptation (risk-free and unpunished for the player), to be faithful to her (in fact, always to love and feel exactly HER as F). And "You and I can`t fail as long as one of us doesn`t quit on the other".

I like this novel because I believe MrDots means something like what I wrote above. I see the game not only as a solution to a formal problem within the hierarchy of power, but as an inspirational love story, which, moreover, can seriously excite the players, since they will be greatly affected by their own choice and perception of the game (probably are the projections from reality).

This game is able to make players think about how they act in real life, how much they value relationships, and what the quality of that relationship really is in their real life. In addition, there is still a moment - the game makes you think about what will happen if everything crushes? An implicit statement of this question can help decide what to do in real life, or how to take it. To place accents - what is what in the life _of the players_.

The game can change the reality, this is valuable and sets it apart from other games. Well, if you take the game the way I do. And I think it is the way to accept the game not as it was the traditional role playing declaration in ordinal game, either as challenge for F and D both, and which is possibly significant not only in this plot, but in real life for us who play the game.

Those were thoughts by maybe even more romantically inclined player;)
My imho.
 
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baka

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they did wrong to not create the corruption path from start, they did have it in plans,
I suspect people complained and wanted a harem vanilla game instead. and the dev fucked up, by listened to them.
now they try to fix it in chapter 3 and it feels a bit odd.

what those "people" dont understand is that, the neverending complaining about the corruption path, created the inconsistency we have now, its your fault. blame yourself. we could have a good game with both vanilla and corruption. now we got a one-dimensional F that is quite boring to play.

DMD could have been similar to Our Fate, but now we got this lame attempt to make a "sharing" route, that for me is quite weak. no F that is "manipulating" or "pushing" D into open up for that. instead we have a horny F that want to bang all girls and dont like to share any of them. sure he show some porn-video, but his character is all wrong.

still I hope they can make it work.
 
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I played the very first version of the game and though I do rarely play games where beastiality is involved so it would not have scared me off. Pretty sure though there was no remark from Mr Dots here or on patreon in those days that beastiality was planned I would have remembered that since it is pretty rare, sharing probablywas but then again the thing is after two years doing nothing with that content it changes the character of what you should expect from a game. Now please stop quoting me so I can leave you all in peace and enjoying yourselves with the planned corruptions. :p
There are people here who work with MrDots and there are posts from them stating that he still planned on including beastiality, but that they were trying to talk him out of it. Jeff Steel was the one who discussed it on several occasions.
 

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two years of development time, but only 40 days of time in the game.
Corrupting an innocent girl who knew little about sex would take longer than that, unless you chained her up and left her with a group of outlaw bikers for a month.
 

DA22

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There are people here who work with MrDots and there are posts from them stating that he still planned on including beastiality, but that they were trying to talk him out of it. Jeff Steel was the one who discussed it on several occasions.
He might have stated it somewhere else as Patreon or here, but I do not remember having seen it here or on Patreon, but i may be wrong it has been quite a while. Again if he wanted to, it should have been entered way earlier and first two years should have been developed different then. Pretty sure there was also a rape scene with D planned on one path in chapter 1 originally, but it was never implemented in the end just hinted at. Now it feels like corrupting D does not fit the game anymore in my opinion.
 

DA22

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two years of development time, but only 40 days of time in the game.
Corrupting an innocent girl who knew little about sex would take longer than that, unless you chained her up and left her with a group of outlaw bikers for a month.
Well I suspect that was part of the intention originally, but then plans changed. :p
 

DA22

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they did wrong to not create the corruption path from start, they did have it in plans,
I suspect people complained and wanted a harem vanilla game instead. and the dev fucked up, by listened to them.
now they try to fix it in chapter 3 and it feels a bit odd.
Basically this and it was why I got bored at end of chapter one when they put in another artificial block to slow story even further down instead of moving it forward. Now it does make no sense anymore.

It is same reason why I hold of playing their new game. The setup between dad, MC, half sis and Mother with cousin is quite interesting and has so much potential. The overkill of filler and fluff as the father of the cook, the BF that is his fathers lackey, the GF that is just an extension of dad and unneeded hostile takeover and way too many characters you know everything will be more or less stalled on those relations though until those are solved, even if Bro-Sis could have slept with eachother in first episode and it would have made all the sense in the world. You know in advance nothing really interesting will happen in those storylines. It will not be changed though just for me since many people will like that, still it is a pity in my eyes. Others will be happy about it.
 
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Hell look at my sig's i would love to have a full on harem option but it isnt there. im fine with the options we are given however too bad so many others keep going on about them. they just need to let the devs do what they do and create a good game for us and so far they have done a great job trying to provide as many options as they have yet people still complain. oh well cant please everyone. the only way i would stop playing is if it went full on mmf or beasty without a choice but they are giving us the opt out yet people still carry on.
 

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George Lucas came up with a nine part draft for Star Wars. He didn't put all of his ideas into just one movie. He spread them out.
Yeah he put all the good ideas in ep 4, 5, 6 and the crappy ones in the other episodes :D Even tho he's not responsible for 7, 8, 9.
You can go on with your conversation I just needed to troll Star Wars :D
 
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