Sesinho

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Those first person kisses dont work
Lizard tongue kisses dont work either.
Jennifer looks more like 12, instead of 19.

When sex begins taking over the love for his daughter, dialogs become the type that you think you would need to get "close" with an underage girl. Maybe im projecting here.
So far is similiar to Melody in many aspects, and thats bad cause the porn part lacks.
But im gonna play it cause im a addict.
 

Sarge6669

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having a problem, i followed the installation instructions. got to the hospital scene in chapter one. and all the images were missing, same with the cafe right after it. have i messed up somewhere? how do i fix it?
 

ShadowThrone

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Hahahaha I love reading through this thread to see all the people crying about D sleeping with other men. I can't wait for more Martin content so fresh tears can flow.
I'm not sure why people complain. It's all optional and avoidable (apart from a couple of bugs).
I'm waiting to see what happens with F / D and Graham / Olivia.
 

Skode

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No, what you and "people" want is a virtual novel with no replayability at all. Then support a dev that provides you with a safe story that will make you feel good. If you are not enjoying the game. Find another and be content. I have been supporting Mr. Dots for quite some time and I am happy with what he and his team have produced. Could some things be better. Yes. But for my money, everything is fine. I like to see all the story options and play through several times to see those different avenues each time a chapter is released. His walkthrough is one of the best out there explaining every possible turn in fine detail. I don't use it until a chapter ends if I felt I missed something. That rarely happens. The walkthrough is much better than many, many others here. It's a big game. Save often. Ren'Py offers tons of save slots.
What is a 'safe story'? I think the biggest grievances is for all these years it HAS been a safe story... four years and she aint so much as come close to mounting another mans cock. Is you wanted a 'safe story' then id have recommended DMD personally until lately where the game is triggering as many 'people' on both sides as you aint getting no daughter fucking anyone else scenes are you meanwhile those who got their 'safe story' are looking at the interpretation of the D they care about go do a 180 to pander to the cuck fetish lovers who lets be honest he spent years as a dev not giving a shit about or the D sharing would have been a thing years ago never mind still not being a thing now on the cusp on ending yet another chapter.

Truth of the matter is I don't recommend this game at all anyway. I instead steer people towards Melody which is just a superior game with a much better plan in mind it seems for all the side characters not just main couple. Four years in and I don't care if you love Martins BBC like a slavering cuck begging to lose the fruit of your loin to the better more deserving man or a loli loving red head lusting creep desiring to deflower Jen, aint nobody on winning on any side as nobody has got the scenes they are after, not after all this time and some like Jen have been teased far more prominently for YEARS as she has quite literally since meeting the MC wanting to jump his bones. I hope at least she gets her game of hide the sausage before Martin gets his because cmon there is blue balling and whatever the hell that is? Melody was a slow burn too but the pay off still came much quicker no matter who your interest was and it seemed to have much better focused story pathing from the get go vs this which he admits himself he struggles to balance. I dare say working on yet another game on the side doesn't help matters either on thir or even on that. DMD should have finished by now or at least closed the book on this one and been a sequel where there is clear narrative on D sharing from the offset so nobody gets upset watching the games development segway years in to a very different one in what it presents.
 

BobLang

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From the blog:
"It’s no easy task because we have fans that would like to see Dee explore more with other characters in the story, but to also keep the D “pure path” interesting.

The former will become a huge focus in Chapter 4, and for the remaining updates of Chapter 3."

I fear this means MC + Elena or Jennifer won't be getting their own chapter any time soon. :( I can't be the only one who enjoys these characters just as much or more than the daughter? I really hope the developers haven't bowed to pressure from all the people upset over how young these characters look. People can easily do a daughter or MILF only run and avoid triggering their conscience over smaller tits. I think it would be great to have another character with a tit size halfway between Elena and Jennifer (maybe slightly more toward Elena's). We already have plenty enough typical sized breasts in the game.
 

RustyV

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I'm not sure why people complain. It's all optional and avoidable (apart from a couple of bugs).
I'm waiting to see what happens with F / D and Graham / Olivia.
Because in a world that has been created with the capacity to provide instant gratification and social media giving millions of people the false feeling of being important too many individuals now feel my way should be the only way.
Tearing down statues that I personally find offensive irregardless of how anyone else views the artwork.
 

Lex Liber

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Because in a world that has been created with the capacity to provide instant gratification and social media giving millions of people the false feeling of being important too many individuals now feel my way should be the only way.
Tearing down statues that I personally find offensive irregardless of how anyone else views the artwork.
Unless these statues are built on the foundations of the old ones; then your definition will be true for "lovers of new statues", right? And with regard to the value of a work of art: which is more rare (and valuable) in VN - complete and deliberate sexual promiscuity, or strong drama? And rarity even formally determines the value - there is a lot of garbage around, it is needed only by those who lustfully rummage in it (instead of real life, it's worth noticing). And the game is specific and unique, it has appreciated by many not lovers of garbage.

PS. I think in the general flow of social media some Martin dick lover is not more important than some D lover, is he? And if Martin's dick-lovers write, "I want Martin to fuck D, and then everyone will fuck D," why don't D-lovers be outraged by this? Moreover, different reasons are increasingly mixing the paths together, willingly or unwillingly (thereby destroying the old statues).
 
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dipp007

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D winning the competition or losing it?

As far I can remember previously there were two paths.

When D was given the option to choose the bikini for the contest. Either she can choose it herself or go with the choice of Cassandra. First one will give her better chance to win the contest. It means that there is a route where she can lose the contest. (No sure will that cause a game over or not) But the latest version (v0.27) does not have the pics of two different bikini photoshoot of D. Is the other path is canceled? I would be very happy if there is two different paths. I know it will require a lot of effort. Just hoping for the best.
 

crugh2112

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What is a 'safe story'? I think the biggest grievances is for all these years it HAS been a safe story... four years and she aint so much as come close to mounting another mans cock. Is you wanted a 'safe story' then id have recommended DMD personally until lately where the game is triggering as many 'people' on both sides as you aint getting no daughter fucking anyone else scenes are you meanwhile those who got their 'safe story' are looking at the interpretation of the D they care about go do a 180 to pander to the cuck fetish lovers who lets be honest he spent years as a dev not giving a shit about or the D sharing would have been a thing years ago never mind still not being a thing now on the cusp on ending yet another chapter.

Truth of the matter is I don't recommend this game at all anyway. I instead steer people towards Melody which is just a superior game with a much better plan in mind it seems for all the side characters not just main couple. Four years in and I don't care if you love Martins BBC like a slavering cuck begging to lose the fruit of your loin to the better more deserving man or a loli loving red head lusting creep desiring to deflower Jen, aint nobody on winning on any side as nobody has got the scenes they are after, not after all this time and some like Jen have been teased far more prominently for YEARS as she has quite literally since meeting the MC wanting to jump his bones. I hope at least she gets her game of hide the sausage before Martin gets his because cmon there is blue balling and whatever the hell that is? Melody was a slow burn too but the pay off still came much quicker no matter who your interest was and it seemed to have much better focused story pathing from the get go vs this which he admits himself he struggles to balance. I dare say working on yet another game on the side doesn't help matters either on thir or even on that. DMD should have finished by now or at least closed the book on this one and been a sequel where there is clear narrative on D sharing from the offset so nobody gets upset watching the games development segway years in to a very different one in what it presents.
My post was a response to another's post. DMD was Mr. Dots first game. If he was allowed to continue before Patreon's "no incest" policy was implemented, I am sure that this game would have been finished by now. Instead he was nice enough to continue the game instead of just dropping it. (Like Big Brother being thrown to the curb.) That is how Melody got cranked up. 2 months of Melody updates and then 1 month for DMD. When SubscribeStar opened up, he could get paid for DMD again. Melody wrapped up. He started his new game and continued DMD in 1 month release rotations. I do not understand those that scream against D adding new potential sex partners in this game. It is easily avoidable. When it does happen, it will be more of a swingers act instead of NTR. This has been posted many times. Yet still people complain. The easiest way to handle that. Indignant folks should create their own "safe" game. Watch it get posted here and see all the bitching start. I am happy to see devs that continue their work. I have also seen many fold. I wonder how many of those that left could not take all the screaming they saw from folks on forums like this. I applaud devs who stick to their original ideas. If I find a game I do not like, I erase it and move on. Constructive criticism is one thing. Demanding that a game should be done only towards the viewpoint of one player is browbeating. I have a feeling that a lot of people here do not read books from cover to cover. Because even some of the classics are not perfect. I enjoy that we have so many people who want to create their own projects these days. Much better than old ASCI graphic BBS games that I started on in the early 80's. Here's to them. Enjoy what they envision. Mr. Dots, thank you.
 

paul1257

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D winning the competition or losing it?

As far I can remember previously there were two paths.

When D was given the option to choose the bikini for the contest. Either she can choose it herself or go with the choice of Cassandra. First one will give her better chance to win the contest. It means that there is a route where she can lose the contest. (No sure will that cause a game over or not) But the latest version (v0.27) does not have the pics of two different bikini photoshoot of D. Is the other path is canceled? I would be very happy if there is two different paths. I know it will require a lot of effort. Just hoping for the best.
Could be very true, however right at the beginning of the start of chapter three when D found out that she was in the current feature of Suduce Me magazine and they were talkng in the kitchen. D commented that some of the biggest fashion models got their start after appearing in the magazine,However F commented that also some of the biggest glamour models also started out this way.
Can't really see that they would have two paths more added the the story, 1 with D winning the contest and becoming a fashion model,another with her losing and possibly going down the line of becoming a Glamour model instead or if they are smart and combine the two somehow. Would just add way to much extra work load to the game when it's suposed to be finishing next year and as we did not even get a proper update this last time round for all the path's.
 
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Skode

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My post was a response to another's post. DMD was Mr. Dots first game. If he was allowed to continue before Patreon's "no incest" policy was implemented, I am sure that this game would have been finished by now. Instead he was nice enough to continue the game instead of just dropping it. (Like Big Brother being thrown to the curb.) That is how Melody got cranked up. 2 months of Melody updates and then 1 month for DMD. When SubscribeStar opened up, he could get paid for DMD again. Melody wrapped up. He started his new game and continued DMD in 1 month release rotations. I do not understand those that scream against D adding new potential sex partners in this game. It is easily avoidable. When it does happen, it will be more of a swingers act instead of NTR. This has been posted many times. Yet still people complain. The easiest way to handle that. Indignant folks should create their own "safe" game. Watch it get posted here and see all the bitching start. I am happy to see devs that continue their work. I have also seen many fold. I wonder how many of those that left could not take all the screaming they saw from folks on forums like this. I applaud devs who stick to their original ideas. If I find a game I do not like, I erase it and move on. Constructive criticism is one thing. Demanding that a game should be done only towards the viewpoint of one player is browbeating. I have a feeling that a lot of people here do not read books from cover to cover. Because even some of the classics are not perfect. I enjoy that we have so many people who want to create their own projects these days. Much better than old ASCI graphic BBS games that I started on in the early 80's. Here's to them. Enjoy what they envision. Mr. Dots, thank you.
Im still not sure what you mean with 'safe game'. If your talking game where the MC gets all the cake and eats it without other men in the fore then your talking everything from My New Family to Harem Hotel to Milfy City ie the MOST POPULAR GAMES ON THE SITE haha. I don't see ANY complaints on there from people demanding several years into development Harem Hotel etc has some dude randomly show up and start fucking all your main love interests?

There are 'non-safe games' aplenty where there is sharing is caring and NTR too. Guess what theyre also popular and no I don't see complaints in those where people turn up years into development demanding the story takes a new direction and instead becomes vanilla. No, in those games esp sharing (vs NTR) they are optional paths and scenes. This is a point you made, its optional but I keep saying to this rather weak rebuttal on the matter your all ignoring my biggest grievance with it in THIS game... it is NOT how the game has been or even presented for YEARS. I think sharing SHOULD be an option, but if your not gonna do it till five years into development then it has no place in the game as your creating a long legacy of story and characterisation and then shitting on your own handiwork to appease a minority who im sorry I don't believe became invested in this particular game because they wanted to share the D with other men.... people lose their shit on likes of Milfy City and Waifu Acadamy for six month delays in updates but im supposed to believe theyre patience enough to wait half a decade for that BBC scene? The best example anyone gives is the old tags from way back when which even featured Bestiality. That was from a time Dots hadn't even really plotted out the whole game and only had a vague idea of what to have in the game.

What DID we get? A father who punches out people who groped his daughter in bars or got real defensive when anyone so much as wanted to take a picture of his D and that was BEFORE they were in love... now the same dude is all about passing his D about till shes had more pricks than a second hand dartboard. The same D who is so in love with him she literally moved country, gave her virginity to him and now is over the moon at prospect of marrying him is not on board with randomly fucking other guys and from the briefest of triggers (Ryan anyone?). Im not making that up as head canon - its literally whats presented in the game and thus is what most of us are basing our opinions on. This whole sharing is caring stuff wasnt a thing for far far far too long so people don't just get to get uppity at people not being happy with changes as that's as far as im concerned on the devs head. He could have featured sharing the D years ago, at very least laying solid consistent groundwork and narrative to it but he didn't, again that's on him - he wanted a very F/D centric narrative even if you bang other chicks and thats what we got... till now. Hes made a fortune from this game my friend, a fortune literally blue balling the hell out of the F/D storyline because it was the draw not sharing her, it would never have survived as a game if it was a game about sharing the D instead it because infamous because it was the taboo love story between a F/D. Hell the games name says it all, a very acute summary of 85% of the games literal content but sure lets have the fans of the other 15% call out everyone else for wanting a 'safe game'. Vocal Minority 101 lol
 

Dragunav

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This has probably already been talked about, but is there any scene in this game where D sleeps or does something with other guys? Not including fantasies and stuff but actually doing something?
 

Big Rooster

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This has probably already been talked about, but is there any scene in this game where D sleeps or does something with other guys? Not including fantasies and stuff but actually doing something?
in ch 3: D sees Graham getting blown by Olivia and Ryan having sex with Margo, not doing anything with them although Ryan and Margo were fondling her tits.
I could be wrong, but as far I recall that's it.
 
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crugh2112

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Im still not sure what you mean with 'safe game'. If your talking game where the MC gets all the cake and eats it without other men in the fore then your talking everything from My New Family to Harem Hotel to Milfy City ie the MOST POPULAR GAMES ON THE SITE haha. I don't see ANY complaints on there from people demanding several years into development Harem Hotel etc has some dude randomly show up and start fucking all your main love interests?

There are 'non-safe games' aplenty where there is sharing is caring and NTR too. Guess what theyre also popular and no I don't see complaints in those where people turn up years into development demanding the story takes a new direction and instead becomes vanilla. No, in those games esp sharing (vs NTR) they are optional paths and scenes. This is a point you made, its optional but I keep saying to this rather weak rebuttal on the matter your all ignoring my biggest grievance with it in THIS game... it is NOT how the game has been or even presented for YEARS. I think sharing SHOULD be an option, but if your not gonna do it till five years into development then it has no place in the game as your creating a long legacy of story and characterisation and then shitting on your own handiwork to appease a minority who im sorry I don't believe became invested in this particular game because they wanted to share the D with other men.... people lose their shit on likes of Milfy City and Waifu Acadamy for six month delays in updates but im supposed to believe theyre patience enough to wait half a decade for that BBC scene? The best example anyone gives is the old tags from way back when which even featured Bestiality. That was from a time Dots hadn't even really plotted out the whole game and only had a vague idea of what to have in the game.

What DID we get? A father who punches out people who groped his daughter in bars or got real defensive when anyone so much as wanted to take a picture of his D and that was BEFORE they were in love... now the same dude is all about passing his D about till shes had more pricks than a second hand dartboard. The same D who is so in love with him she literally moved country, gave her virginity to him and now is over the moon at prospect of marrying him is not on board with randomly fucking other guys and from the briefest of triggers (Ryan anyone?). Im not making that up as head canon - its literally whats presented in the game and thus is what most of us are basing our opinions on. This whole sharing is caring stuff wasnt a thing for far far far too long so people don't just get to get uppity at people not being happy with changes as that's as far as im concerned on the devs head. He could have featured sharing the D years ago, at very least laying solid consistent groundwork and narrative to it but he didn't, again that's on him - he wanted a very F/D centric narrative even if you bang other chicks and thats what we got... till now. Hes made a fortune from this game my friend, a fortune literally blue balling the hell out of the F/D storyline because it was the draw not sharing her, it would never have survived as a game if it was a game about sharing the D instead it because infamous because it was the taboo love story between a F/D. Hell the games name says it all, a very acute summary of 85% of the games literal content but sure lets have the fans of the other 15% call out everyone else for wanting a 'safe game'. Vocal Minority 101 lol
Then don't play the game if all of this bothers you. If you want to continue there is still a F/D-centric story. Follow it to its beautiful conclusion. I am still happy to support Mr. Dots for all of his creations and that all started with DMD. I am still happy with DMD and all of the routes provided throughout the game. I say you should create your own game. Show us all how it is done.
 
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