VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[Skode]

My post was a response to another's post. DMD was Mr. Dots first game. If he was allowed to continue before Patreon's "no incest" policy was implemented, I am sure that this game would have been finished by now. Instead he was nice enough to continue the game instead of just dropping it. (Like Big Brother being thrown to the curb.) That is how Melody got cranked up. 2 months of Melody updates and then 1 month for DMD. When SubscribeStar opened up, he could get paid for DMD again. Melody wrapped up. He started his new game and continued DMD in 1 month release rotations. I do not understand those that scream against D adding new potential sex partners in this game. It is easily avoidable. When it does happen, it will be more of a swingers act instead of NTR. This has been posted many times. Yet still people complain. The easiest way to handle that. Indignant folks should create their own "safe" game. Watch it get posted here and see all the bitching start. I am happy to see devs that continue their work. I have also seen many fold. I wonder how many of those that left could not take all the screaming they saw from folks on forums like this. I applaud devs who stick to their original ideas. If I find a game I do not like, I erase it and move on. Constructive criticism is one thing. Demanding that a game should be done only towards the viewpoint of one player is browbeating. I have a feeling that a lot of people here do not read books from cover to cover. Because even some of the classics are not perfect. I enjoy that we have so many people who want to create their own projects these days. Much better than old ASCI graphic BBS games that I started on in the early 80's. Here's to them. Enjoy what they envision. Mr. Dots, thank you.

Im still not sure what you mean with 'safe game'. If your talking game where the MC gets all the cake and eats it without other men in the fore then your talking everything from My New Family to Harem Hotel to Milfy City ie the MOST POPULAR GAMES ON THE SITE haha. I don't see ANY complaints on there from people demanding several years into development Harem Hotel etc has some dude randomly show up and start fucking all your main love interests?

There are 'non-safe games' aplenty where there is sharing is caring and NTR too. Guess what theyre also popular and no I don't see complaints in those where people turn up years into development demanding the story takes a new direction and instead becomes vanilla. No, in those games esp sharing (vs NTR) they are optional paths and scenes. This is a point you made, its optional but I keep saying to this rather weak rebuttal on the matter your all ignoring my biggest grievance with it in THIS game... it is NOT how the game has been or even presented for YEARS. I think sharing SHOULD be an option, but if your not gonna do it till five years into development then it has no place in the game as your creating a long legacy of story and characterisation and then shitting on your own handiwork to appease a minority who im sorry I don't believe became invested in this particular game because they wanted to share the D with other men.... people lose their shit on likes of Milfy City and Waifu Acadamy for six month delays in updates but im supposed to believe theyre patience enough to wait half a decade for that BBC scene? The best example anyone gives is the old tags from way back when which even featured Bestiality. That was from a time Dots hadn't even really plotted out the whole game and only had a vague idea of what to have in the game.

What DID we get? A father who punches out people who groped his daughter in bars or got real defensive when anyone so much as wanted to take a picture of his D and that was BEFORE they were in love... now the same dude is all about passing his D about till shes had more pricks than a second hand dartboard. The same D who is so in love with him she literally moved country, gave her virginity to him and now is over the moon at prospect of marrying him is not on board with randomly fucking other guys and from the briefest of triggers (Ryan anyone?). Im not making that up as head canon - its literally whats presented in the game and thus is what most of us are basing our opinions on. This whole sharing is caring stuff wasnt a thing for far far far too long so people don't just get to get uppity at people not being happy with changes as that's as far as im concerned on the devs head. He could have featured sharing the D years ago, at very least laying solid consistent groundwork and narrative to it but he didn't, again that's on him - he wanted a very F/D centric narrative even if you bang other chicks and thats what we got... till now. Hes made a fortune from this game my friend, a fortune literally blue balling the hell out of the F/D storyline because it was the draw not sharing her, it would never have survived as a game if it was a game about sharing the D instead it because infamous because it was the taboo love story between a F/D. Hell the games name says it all, a very acute summary of 85% of the games literal content but sure lets have the fans of the other 15% call out everyone else for wanting a 'safe game'. Vocal Minority 101 lol

 

[Big Rooster]

I vote for this:

now the same dude is all about passing his D about till shes had more pricks than a second hand dartboard.

 

[Dragunav]

This has probably already been talked about, but is there any scene in this game where D sleeps or does something with other guys? Not including fantasies and stuff but actually doing something?

 

[Big Rooster]

This has probably already been talked about, but is there any scene in this game where D sleeps or does something with other guys? Not including fantasies and stuff but actually doing something?

in ch 3: D sees Graham getting blown by Olivia and Ryan having sex with Margo, not doing anything with them although Ryan and Margo were fondling her tits.
I could be wrong, but as far I recall that's it.

 

[crugh2112]

Im still not sure what you mean with 'safe game'. If your talking game where the MC gets all the cake and eats it without other men in the fore then your talking everything from My New Family to Harem Hotel to Milfy City ie the MOST POPULAR GAMES ON THE SITE haha. I don't see ANY complaints on there from people demanding several years into development Harem Hotel etc has some dude randomly show up and start fucking all your main love interests?

There are 'non-safe games' aplenty where there is sharing is caring and NTR too. Guess what theyre also popular and no I don't see complaints in those where people turn up years into development demanding the story takes a new direction and instead becomes vanilla. No, in those games esp sharing (vs NTR) they are optional paths and scenes. This is a point you made, its optional but I keep saying to this rather weak rebuttal on the matter your all ignoring my biggest grievance with it in THIS game... it is NOT how the game has been or even presented for YEARS. I think sharing SHOULD be an option, but if your not gonna do it till five years into development then it has no place in the game as your creating a long legacy of story and characterisation and then shitting on your own handiwork to appease a minority who im sorry I don't believe became invested in this particular game because they wanted to share the D with other men.... people lose their shit on likes of Milfy City and Waifu Acadamy for six month delays in updates but im supposed to believe theyre patience enough to wait half a decade for that BBC scene? The best example anyone gives is the old tags from way back when which even featured Bestiality. That was from a time Dots hadn't even really plotted out the whole game and only had a vague idea of what to have in the game.

What DID we get? A father who punches out people who groped his daughter in bars or got real defensive when anyone so much as wanted to take a picture of his D and that was BEFORE they were in love... now the same dude is all about passing his D about till shes had more pricks than a second hand dartboard. The same D who is so in love with him she literally moved country, gave her virginity to him and now is over the moon at prospect of marrying him is not on board with randomly fucking other guys and from the briefest of triggers (Ryan anyone?). Im not making that up as head canon - its literally whats presented in the game and thus is what most of us are basing our opinions on. This whole sharing is caring stuff wasnt a thing for far far far too long so people don't just get to get uppity at people not being happy with changes as that's as far as im concerned on the devs head. He could have featured sharing the D years ago, at very least laying solid consistent groundwork and narrative to it but he didn't, again that's on him - he wanted a very F/D centric narrative even if you bang other chicks and thats what we got... till now. Hes made a fortune from this game my friend, a fortune literally blue balling the hell out of the F/D storyline because it was the draw not sharing her, it would never have survived as a game if it was a game about sharing the D instead it because infamous because it was the taboo love story between a F/D. Hell the games name says it all, a very acute summary of 85% of the games literal content but sure lets have the fans of the other 15% call out everyone else for wanting a 'safe game'. Vocal Minority 101 lol

Then don't play the game if all of this bothers you. If you want to continue there is still a F/D-centric story. Follow it to its beautiful conclusion. I am still happy to support Mr. Dots for all of his creations and that all started with DMD. I am still happy with DMD and all of the routes provided throughout the game. I say you should create your own game. Show us all how it is done.

 

[Tobirama2]

Downloading this is the full game? Or have to download chapter 1 and 2 separately?

 

[Big Rooster]

Downloading this is the full game? Or have to download chapter 1 and 2 separately?

separately

 

[JaegerMister]

Alright, so apparently there's some big thing about the D in this being open to other partners. I gotta say, if this is anything like Melody, which is one of my top 5 favorite games on this site, then I'm in the fuck that noise camp and will never let it happen in my play. I couldn't even bring myself to share Melody with Sophia, fell much too hard for her character and the love story told between the MC and Melody. MrDots made me fall in love with Melody, if he makes me fall in love with the daughter by having that same wit, charm and engaging writing and character building that Melody had, then yeah sharing her is right out. And since it's avoidable, then it's fine that that's in there. I'm here for the porn yes, but if the story is good and the romance is awesome? The pants get zipped and I sit up. I'm a sucker for a good love story.

 

[RustyV]

Unless these statues are built on the foundations of the old ones; then your definition will be true for "lovers of new statues", right? And with regard to the value of a work of art: which is more rare (and valuable) in VN - complete and deliberate sexual promiscuity, or strong drama? And rarity even formally determines the value - there is a lot of garbage around, it is needed only by those who lustfully rummage in it (instead of real life, it's worth noticing). And the game is specific and unique, it has appreciated by many not lovers of garbage.

PS. I think in the general flow of social media some Martin dick lover is not more important than some D lover, is he? And if Martin's dick-lovers write, "I want Martin to fuck D, and then everyone will fuck D," why don't D-lovers be outraged by this? Moreover, different reasons are increasingly mixing the paths together, willingly or unwillingly (thereby destroying the old statues).

Not getting too real world but no the statues are not built on older ones.

 

[Lex Liber]

Not getting too real world but no the statues are not built on older ones.

If so, then everything will be OK with the rights to the safety of all statues, both old and new, right?)

 

[fried]

What DID we get? A father who punches out people who groped his daughter in bars or got real defensive when anyone so much as wanted to take a picture of his D and that was BEFORE they were in love... now the same dude is all about passing his D about till shes had more pricks than a second hand dartboard. The same D who is so in love with him she literally moved country, gave her virginity to him and now is over the moon at prospect of marrying him is not on board with randomly fucking other guys and from the briefest of triggers (Ryan anyone?).

Or perhaps, just maybe, D's ability to grow into an independent personality - with the help of F - has enabled her to make choices that she never realized were in her scope to grasp, due to her former, sheltered existence. Note that her sexual expansion started on an exponential path only after formally declaring herself free from Rachel's virtual cage.

Context matters and it's been D's journey to consider all along, including those who have enabled her to understand that the only limits to her desires are within her own imagination. This was a fairytale princess suddenly freed from her tower and the real world showed itself offering a range of experiences she never had the chance to consider until now.

It's not as if people are born into partner-swapping or sexual fetishes from birth - everyone takes their own journey to discover what inspires (or forces) them into various relationships, fetishes and sexual experiences as an adult.

 

[Skode]

Then don't play the game if all of this bothers you. If you want to continue there is still a F/D-centric story. Follow it to its beautiful conclusion. I am still happy to support Mr. Dots for all of his creations and that all started with DMD. I am still happy with DMD and all of the routes provided throughout the game. I say you should create your own game. Show us all how it is done.

Yet another one. I go into long detail in how the game has been presented in its characterisation of both F and D, how long this has taken place and why people have the feeling on the sharing matter on this particular game. The response? Don't play it then...

 

[The0neBL]

It's neat that each episode is stacked in a separate executable, but damn! The size of each episode is huge!

Another thing, I forgot if this game needed a patch or are the relationships editable?

 

[Trikus]

What DID we get? A father who punches out people who groped his daughter in bars or got real defensive when anyone so much as wanted to take a picture of his D and that was BEFORE they were in love... now the same dude is all about passing his D about till shes had more pricks than a second hand dartboard.

Yeah, punching out people who were sexually assaulting her and perving on her vs POTENTIALLY sharing her with someone that she finds attractive and is curious about is not the same thing. Also, I don't know what game you are playing but the sharing path has not turned F into a pimp that is passing her around. Have you actually read the dialogue on the sharing paths?

 

[dipp007]

If DMD is going to end in the next year then we will have six episodes max. But there are lots of paths combinations left. So the story of CH4 is going to progress fast. As a result some scenes may seem that it has been forced in the story early. Some of the combinations will not see the light of the day. Some fans may become disappointed. I would like to see DMD continue much farther.

 

[Lex Liber]

Or perhaps, just maybe, D's ability to grow into an independent personality - with the help of F - has enabled her to make choices that she never realized were in her scope to grasp, due to her former, sheltered existence. Note that her sexual expansion started on an exponential path only after formally declaring herself free from Rachel's virtual cage.

Context matters and it's been D's journey to consider all along, including those who have enabled her to understand that the only limits to her desires are within her own imagination. This was a fairytale princess suddenly freed from her tower and the real world showed itself offering a range of experiences she never had the chance to consider until now.

It's not as if people are born into partner-swapping or sexual fetishes from birth - everyone takes their own journey to discover what inspires (or forces) them into various relationships, fetishes and sexual experiences as an adult.

I would not agree with this, in my opinion this is just some idealization of the world. On the contrary, I and many others, including philosophers, believe (including from empirical experience) that "every desire has it`s own price." Therefore, the phrase "only limits to her desires are within her own imagination" seems somewhat simplistic for a "independent personality." Otherwise, I would agree.

PS. And I would like to add that it is not at all necessary to try the entire list of sexual fetishes in order to get your own impression of those that you like or dislike. Fetishes do not exist on their own in vacuum, but against the background of all other internal personality patterns, including within the framework of powerful moral and ethical attitudes, a kind of "codeх", especially for "independent personality". [Plus just as "like or dislike" based on feelings and intuition, even without trying]. And I believe that a person makes such a codex for himself for a reason, most for survival in the environment of other people who are important to her in this capacity (relatives, partner, colleagues, people on the street, the people in general). And to feel herself happy, without remorse. And such a codex also largely determines the uniqueness of a personality, and then - what she is ready to do or not. Perhaps D is not at all only interested in purely sexual exploring of the world. Maybe she most of all wants to study at the university to become a rocket engineer (this is called a dream, also a very significant motivation for action, for example).

 

[baka]

dormant desires can be awaken from specific events. its also about maturity and different triggers.
one person can be shy, indifferent, uninterested, even frigid but in the right circumstances that person could explode into fetishes you would never believe.

this is a game, and we are the players, and theres different choices to make,
here you believe that the D is something, someone with a specific personality and sexuality and because of the events so far, she "need" and "should" be someone "you" believe is right.
but, its a game, and you are given the choices, (of course limited) to take her into different realms of sexuality.
I don't see anything wrong with F being a cheater or someone that will stick with only D, the same D, can be a girl that only want one partner, and that includes any females as well, or be bi-curious and, to imagine having another male, now that she has tasted a cock. this is a game and we are given the choice. stop trying to tell what is right, theres always different perspectives on anything and what you believe is wrong can be right for someone else.

 

[Chagatai Khan]

Although I would personally never share D or any of the other girls, I don't see any issue with it being a possible route. The same would apply to almost any fetish that the producer wishes to incorporate into the game, provided that everything non-vanilla is avoidable and that the incorporation of these fetishes into the story makes sense. That being said, I do have some issues with the way that they have been implemented in this game. For one, it is really unclear what the effect of your choices will be in-game, especially since sometimes the choices only start to effect the gameplay much later on (e.g. destroying the binoculars and Martin's compliment). Now, I know that there is a walkthrough that is quite detailed, but it really is quite annoying to have to go to a seperate walktrough file to look at what the consequences of your actions will be. Even more so since you have to go through three seperate walkthrough files. Of course there might be many who don't want to know what the consequences of their actions will be in advance. The best remedy for that would be to be able to toggle such a in-game walkthrough on or off.

Also some scenes seem to be either bugged or not worked out well. For example, after having had the conversation with Rachel and D and the following sex-scene in the bedroom with D at the end of chapter 3, the next morning F mentions that D is interested in having sex with Ryan after having been to a club. I never chose to go that route, yet this still appears, much to my annoyance.

 

[RustyV]

Not re

Or perhaps, just maybe, D's ability to grow into an independent personality - with the help of F - has enabled her to make choices that she never realized were in her scope to grasp, due to her former, sheltered existence. Note that her sexual expansion started on an exponential path only after formally declaring herself free from Rachel's virtual cage.

Context matters and it's been D's journey to consider all along, including those who have enabled her to understand that the only limits to her desires are within her own imagination. This was a fairytale princess suddenly freed from her tower and the real world showed itself offering a range of experiences she never had the chance to consider until now.

It's not as if people are born into partner-swapping or sexual fetishes from birth - everyone takes their own journey to discover what inspires (or forces) them into various relationships, fetishes and sexual experiences as an adult.

An accurate observation as per usual.

 

[fried]

I would not agree with this, in my opinion this is just some idealization of the world. On the contrary, I and many others, including philosophers, believe (including from empirical experience) that "every desire has it`s own price." Therefore, the phrase "only limits to her desires are within her own imagination" seems somewhat simplistic for a "independent personality." Otherwise, I would agree.

PS. And I would like to add that it is not at all necessary to try the entire list of sexual fetishes in order to get your own impression of those that you like or dislike. Fetishes do not exist on their own in vacuum, but against the background of all other internal personality patterns, including within the framework of powerful moral and ethical attitudes, a kind of "codeх", especially for "independent personality". [Plus just as "like or dislike" based on feelings and intuition, even without trying]. And I believe that a person makes such a codex for himself for a reason, most for survival in the environment of other people who are important to her in this capacity (relatives, partner, colleagues, people on the street, the people in general). And to feel herself happy, without remorse. And such a codex also largely determines the uniqueness of a personality, and then - what she is ready to do or not. Perhaps D is not at all only interested in purely sexual exploring of the world. Maybe she most of all wants to study at the university to become a rocket engineer (this is called a dream, also a very significant motivation for action, for example).

The warning of exacting a "price" assumes a necessary balance within her life, perhaps implying a moralistic or cautionary quality is involved in D's ability to exercise her sexual desire in whatever way is available to her that seems attainable or interesting.

So, there seems to be an undercurrent in your post which implies that D's exponential ramp-up of sexual experiences and initimacy with friends, acquaintances is somehow an aspect of life which must necessarily be curated or that it comes with a balance of expense. It's merely another form of her blossoming expression from within, enabled almost fully by a combination of F's desire to support her happiness and those she meets wanting to get in her (or her partner's) pants. Given that her only other priorities in life are firming the definition of her lifestyle with F at its core - which includes long-lasting income options and a mutually desirable living space - she literally has only her imagination holding her back when it comes to expressing herself in this sexual hobby.

And that's what it is for her at this point: an enjoyable activity, without remorse and filled with verve to experience more, wondering what can come next as much as appreciating what she already enjoys.

Her rampup in sexual activities has not made D drop career plans, desire to own a home and to marry + procreate with F - if anything, she apparently feels closer to him from all the trust and open experiences they have shared, discussed and mutually allowed.

Sexuality can be a valid aspect of someone's lifestyle, there is no need to view it as a limitation to other aspects of her life simply because she has so many options available from which she might sample and dig deeper into exercising.

Anyone seeking to remind D that she has limits on sexual tastes and forays - even while she's still successfully balancing other aspects of her life which are both necessary and fulfilling - would seem to be placing their own values upon her. In the reality of Donutistan, I have a feeling D would find little to learn from if such abstract ideals were offered to her as a warning or guide for her life when all evidence suggests she's doing just fine.