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Yeah, punching out people who were sexually assaulting her and perving on her vs POTENTIALLY sharing her with someone that she finds attractive and is curious about is not the same thing. Also, I don't know what game you are playing but the sharing path has not turned F into a pimp that is passing her around. Have you actually read the dialogue on the sharing paths?
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If DMD is going to end in the next year then we will have six episodes max. But there are lots of paths combinations left. So the story of CH4 is going to progress fast. As a result some scenes may seem that it has been forced in the story early. Some of the combinations will not see the light of the day. Some fans may become disappointed. I would like to see DMD continue much farther.
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I would not agree with this, in my opinion this is just some idealization of the world. On the contrary, I and many others, including philosophers, believe (including from empirical experience) that "every desire has it`s own price." Therefore, the phrase "only limits to her desires are within her own imagination" seems somewhat simplistic for a "independent personality." Otherwise, I would agree.
PS. And I would like to add that it is not at all necessary to try the entire list of sexual fetishes in order to get your own impression of those that you like or dislike. Fetishes do not exist on their own in vacuum, but against the background of all other internal personality patterns, including within the framework of powerful moral and ethical attitudes, a kind of "codeх", especially for "independent personality". [Plus just as "like or dislike" based on feelings and intuition, even without trying]. And I believe that a person makes such a codex for himself for a reason, most for survival in the environment of other people who are important to her in this capacity (relatives, partner, colleagues, people on the street, the people in general). And to feel herself happy, without remorse. And such a codex also largely determines the uniqueness of a personality, and then - what she is ready to do or not. Perhaps D is not at all only interested in purely sexual exploring of the world. Maybe she most of all wants to study at the university to become a rocket engineer (this is called a dream, also a very significant motivation for action, for example).
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dormant desires can be awaken from specific events. its also about maturity and different triggers.
one person can be shy, indifferent, uninterested, even frigid but in the right circumstances that person could explode into fetishes you would never believe.
this is a game, and we are the players, and theres different choices to make,
here you believe that the D is something, someone with a specific personality and sexuality and because of the events so far, she "need" and "should" be someone "you" believe is right.
but, its a game, and you are given the choices, (of course limited) to take her into different realms of sexuality.
I don't see anything wrong with F being a cheater or someone that will stick with only D, the same D, can be a girl that only want one partner, and that includes any females as well, or be bi-curious and, to imagine having another male, now that she has tasted a cock. this is a game and we are given the choice. stop trying to tell what is right, theres always different perspectives on anything and what you believe is wrong can be right for someone else.
one person can be shy, indifferent, uninterested, even frigid but in the right circumstances that person could explode into fetishes you would never believe.
this is a game, and we are the players, and theres different choices to make,
here you believe that the D is something, someone with a specific personality and sexuality and because of the events so far, she "need" and "should" be someone "you" believe is right.
but, its a game, and you are given the choices, (of course limited) to take her into different realms of sexuality.
I don't see anything wrong with F being a cheater or someone that will stick with only D, the same D, can be a girl that only want one partner, and that includes any females as well, or be bi-curious and, to imagine having another male, now that she has tasted a cock. this is a game and we are given the choice. stop trying to tell what is right, theres always different perspectives on anything and what you believe is wrong can be right for someone else.
Although I would personally never share D or any of the other girls, I don't see any issue with it being a possible route. The same would apply to almost any fetish that the producer wishes to incorporate into the game, provided that everything non-vanilla is avoidable and that the incorporation of these fetishes into the story makes sense. That being said, I do have some issues with the way that they have been implemented in this game. For one, it is really unclear what the effect of your choices will be in-game, especially since sometimes the choices only start to effect the gameplay much later on (e.g. destroying the binoculars and Martin's compliment). Now, I know that there is a walkthrough that is quite detailed, but it really is quite annoying to have to go to a seperate walktrough file to look at what the consequences of your actions will be. Even more so since you have to go through three seperate walkthrough files. Of course there might be many who don't want to know what the consequences of their actions will be in advance. The best remedy for that would be to be able to toggle such a in-game walkthrough on or off.
Also some scenes seem to be either bugged or not worked out well. For example, after having had the conversation with Rachel and D and the following sex-scene in the bedroom with D at the end of chapter 3, the next morning F mentions that D is interested in having sex with Ryan after having been to a club. I never chose to go that route, yet this still appears, much to my annoyance.
Also some scenes seem to be either bugged or not worked out well. For example, after having had the conversation with Rachel and D and the following sex-scene in the bedroom with D at the end of chapter 3, the next morning F mentions that D is interested in having sex with Ryan after having been to a club. I never chose to go that route, yet this still appears, much to my annoyance.
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The warning of exacting a "price" assumes a necessary balance within her life, perhaps implying a moralistic or cautionary quality is involved in D's ability to exercise her sexual desire in whatever way is available to her that seems attainable or interesting.
So, there seems to be an undercurrent in your post which implies that D's exponential ramp-up of sexual experiences and initimacy with friends, acquaintances is somehow an aspect of life which must necessarily be curated or that it comes with a balance of expense. It's merely another form of her blossoming expression from within, enabled almost fully by a combination of F's desire to support her happiness and those she meets wanting to get in her (or her partner's) pants. Given that her only other priorities in life are firming the definition of her lifestyle with F at its core - which includes long-lasting income options and a mutually desirable living space - she literally has only her imagination holding her back when it comes to expressing herself in this sexual hobby.
And that's what it is for her at this point: an enjoyable activity, without remorse and filled with verve to experience more, wondering what can come next as much as appreciating what she already enjoys.
Her rampup in sexual activities has not made D drop career plans, desire to own a home and to marry + procreate with F - if anything, she apparently feels closer to him from all the trust and open experiences they have shared, discussed and mutually allowed.
Sexuality can be a valid aspect of someone's lifestyle, there is no need to view it as a limitation to other aspects of her life simply because she has so many options available from which she might sample and dig deeper into exercising.
Anyone seeking to remind D that she has limits on sexual tastes and forays - even while she's still successfully balancing other aspects of her life which are both necessary and fulfilling - would seem to be placing their own values upon her. In the reality of Donutistan, I have a feeling D would find little to learn from if such abstract ideals were offered to her as a warning or guide for her life when all evidence suggests she's doing just fine.
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Wait, did you just tell me what to do or not to do for my opinion of character D (that is, what is "right or wrong")? And you are talking about the real me doing, although I speak exclusively my opinion about the character in game? For me, this casts doubt on the logic of your theses.
Secondly, about the awakening of fetishes and sudden changes in the character. I think nothing happens without a reason. And this or that deviation is included in a person not only depending on the circumstances of the external world, but also depending on the inner content of his personality.
Then, a person simply cannot physically choose all the deviations, he chooses something from, depending on his internal preferences. For example, any character of Hemingway cannot become another character in the same book, no matter how you read it. And most of the book is written, and the character D, with her specific personality, has been built in a certain way from the very beginning of the story. Not in whole all ways for all, but in a certain way. D was not Lucas (with his recognizable personality), nor Elena (with her characteristic personality), nor Jennifer, nor Marcus, nor Georgina etc. She was just exactly D.
Otherwise, we simply could not recognize D among others. Imagine if different tastes forced to change not only the personality of D, but also her appearance? We would not have recognized her without a sign with the inscription. It wouldn't make any sense in terms of story writing, and players would not get D at all. Just empty place.
If the character is most ambivalent, then he loses his unique personality, and turns into a TV remote control in the hands of a player watching frivolous channels.
IMO again.
So let me stay where I am. I don't want D to turn into a wind vane, I like story too much, and my opinion is my property.
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Yes, exactly F!) Imagine that D, for example, gets pregnant with Martin, or (in her sexual freedom), instead of "the one worth seeing," will be recognizable in the modeling business as "the one worth sleeping with"? This will disrupt all her plans, about which you say that they are safe, and she can flutter like a butterfly from flower to flower)).
In general, I heard you, thanks for the detailed theses.
But let me still stick to my opinion. And I think discussion is good.
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one thing is your own opinion, the other is that you tell that something is wrong because you dont think is right.
I believe in diversity and that a game should be available for as many possible, it is of course impossible to include everyone since that would require an impossible task from the developers.
Im not advocating that "one" path or fetish should get removed, or that "one" path doesnt make sense.
what I always try to say is that I enjoy "this and that" and I "would enjoy if that would be".
that a lot different from "I think this should not be added because I think its wrong".
of course you can say "I dont like this", fine I accept that, but stop trying to change it, others maybe likes it.
so, of course I say "YOU" are wrong. because "YOU" are saying what "OTHERS" should think or do, instead of saying "I like this and want this and I leave alone what I dont like that you like"
If I where you, I would (like many others) involve myself in the vanilla path, and discuss if theres anything that you feel makes no sense, instead of focusing on paths that have nothing to do with you.
I believe in diversity and that a game should be available for as many possible, it is of course impossible to include everyone since that would require an impossible task from the developers.
Im not advocating that "one" path or fetish should get removed, or that "one" path doesnt make sense.
what I always try to say is that I enjoy "this and that" and I "would enjoy if that would be".
that a lot different from "I think this should not be added because I think its wrong".
of course you can say "I dont like this", fine I accept that, but stop trying to change it, others maybe likes it.
so, of course I say "YOU" are wrong. because "YOU" are saying what "OTHERS" should think or do, instead of saying "I like this and want this and I leave alone what I dont like that you like"
If I where you, I would (like many others) involve myself in the vanilla path, and discuss if theres anything that you feel makes no sense, instead of focusing on paths that have nothing to do with you.
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I don't understand how people say the progression isn't covered well if you choose the sharing options. The fact is though that D has three fairly large influences when it comes to sex. F, Elena and porn. Elena is trying to get D to open up in the early chapters but it wasn't working until F helped break down those barriers that D had built up over the years. Then, F introduces her to porn. She had never watched porn before and Mr Dots uses the choice of porn to help shape D's path through the game. Not just sharing with other men, but women and even her friends too. The threesome scene with D and Elena is a choice that can be effected by the porn D watches. Now that D is more open, Elena is able to push D's boundaries and into the more kinky stuff.
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Okay, then I can say that YOU are wrong because:
1. Paths in the game have visible intersection points.
2. Knowing that on the other path the character D is doing exactly the opposite, this changes the impression of her chosen path, and the paths are connected, since there are triggers, moreover, subtle.
3. Because I never said "what people should think", right or wrong, I always described my thoughts in relation to the character and story.
4. I was never against the freedom of choice for D, I just always wanted this choice to be dictated by her unique personality, and not just by a list of popular deviations. For this I "fight" in my posts.
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1. if you pick the right choice, will take you to the path you want to play.
2. other paths are not for you, stop thinking too much. if you think your path has odd things, report that in the feedback in the discord channel.
3. if so, you failed to communicate that.
4. you can fight, as long your fight is for the path you play. when u start fighting where you should not be, its when you are personal against people that actually enjoy those paths. its not your call.
- the right way:
I like sharing path, I say:
hm, its odd how Martin is behaving in scene X, I think he should be like this instead.
- others will tell me, I agree, or not agree, and we have a discussion about a path we both like but theres something I think its odd.
- the wrong way:
I don't like the sharing path, I say:
hm, I think its wrong that D is going that path, its not her character, she should not dream about other cocks.
- others will not discuss about the dream about other cocks, but that I dont like the sharing path and want it to get removed.
2. other paths are not for you, stop thinking too much. if you think your path has odd things, report that in the feedback in the discord channel.
3. if so, you failed to communicate that.
4. you can fight, as long your fight is for the path you play. when u start fighting where you should not be, its when you are personal against people that actually enjoy those paths. its not your call.
- the right way:
I like sharing path, I say:
hm, its odd how Martin is behaving in scene X, I think he should be like this instead.
- others will tell me, I agree, or not agree, and we have a discussion about a path we both like but theres something I think its odd.
- the wrong way:
I don't like the sharing path, I say:
hm, I think its wrong that D is going that path, its not her character, she should not dream about other cocks.
- others will not discuss about the dream about other cocks, but that I dont like the sharing path and want it to get removed.
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Pregnancy and child-rearing will interrupt her modelling career to some extent (i.e., she could also model as a pregnant figure, post-pregnant figure, etc. if desired). And it will change her life focus, but she has already expressed a desire to have a kid/kids. So, this is a path she wants to make happen at some point.
D is obviously planning to raise a family with F ... but if someone else turned out to be the genetic father from what they have both agreed were acceptable sexual activities, we don't know if that will have a great impact on how she raises the future child or not.
I don't see a clear penalty here and - quite the opposite - knowing how D consistently adapts to situations by stressing the positive side, if the genetic dad turned out to be someone other than F, I'm sure she would still be happy about the pregnancy and want to give her future child the best opportunities possible.
That is because it is a game. If you want something that has a set character that proceeds in only one direction, may I suggest a book or a movie. The game has choices, what you want is behind a choice, and what others want is behind another. Neither person is wrong for the choice they make. This game has no "canon path". The only thing really set in stone with DMD is D becoming a successful model otherwise events in Sunshine Love would make no sense.
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You can tell what to do to the one you want to tell. I can discuss in the game whatever I want. It is not your call which paths or how long I want to discuss. I read your words, but I’ll hardly answer you, I don’t like the transition to personalities, I don’t want to waste my time on this.