zehyr

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Except that there is no NTR path and never will be.
only god know it ;)

There are choices, yes, but the number of people who think this game's focus should be more on NTR and sharing is getting annoying, as are the complaints that this game is too "vanilla". To them I say, tough shit.

This game, as well as MrD's general popularity as a dev, has gotten to where it is precisely because it has what some might call "vanilla" content. He didn't need to put in extreme fetishes to become a success, he just created good, simple stories centred around the relationship between 2 primary characters and their growing love for each other and it worked. No need to fix what ain't broke by acquiescing to a small minority.
Wrong awnser. He left patreon to develop dmd like he want. He decide to propose us differents ways on chap 3. No need to argue about it. You talk about a minority when you want, just take a look on the pool. :whistle:
 

Holy Bacchus

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Wrong awnser. He left patreon to develop dmd like he want. He decide to propose us differents ways on chap 3. No need to argue about it. You talk about a minority when you want, just take a look on the pool. :whistle:
I think you're the one who's wrong on that one, chief. For one thing, they haven't left Patreon, they're still on it and promoting and funding Sunshine Love with it. The only reason they moved DMD to SubscribeStar is because it was not possible to change it to avoid the Patreon censors regarding incest.

Also, if you're referring to the Discord poll, the paths featuring other male characters are in the minority of votes when compared to many of the female character paths, and also when they're tallied together. Right now it stands like this:
  1. D only = 250
  2. D+Georgina = 267
  3. D+Elena = 192
  4. D+Elena+Jennifer = 370
  5. D + any of the above + Margo/Ryan = 141
  6. D + any of the above + Olivia/Graham = 178
  7. D + Martin/F sharing = 195
  8. All possible paths = 559
  9. D+Jennifer path = 112
If we take all the paths that involve just female characters and no male characters, they total 1191 votes. The paths that involve male characters total just 514 votes. Even if we add #8 to the male character total and #5,#6, and #8 to the female characters total since they technically involve these characters too, it's still more for female than male with 2069 vs 1073 votes.

The numbers don't lie; there are less votes for paths involving sharing with other male characters.
 
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zehyr

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I think you're the one who's wrong on that one, chief. For one thing, they haven't left Patreon, they're still on it and promoting and funding Sunshine Love with it. The only reason they moved DMD to SubscribeStar is because it was not possible to change it to avoid the Patreon censors regarding incest.

Also, if you're referring to the Discord poll, the paths featuring other male characters are in the minority of votes when compared to many of the female character paths, and also when they're tallied together. Right now it stands like this:
  1. D only = 250
  2. D+Georgina = 267
  3. D+Elena = 192
  4. D+Elena+Jennifer = 370
  5. D + any of the above + Margo/Ryan = 141
  6. D + any of the above + Olivia/Graham = 178
  7. D + Martin/F sharing = 195
  8. All possible paths = 559
  9. D+Jennifer path = 112
If we take all the paths that involve just female characters and no male characters, they total 1191 votes. The paths that involve male characters total just 514 votes. Even if we add #8 to the male character total and #5,#6, and #8 to the female characters total since they technically involve these characters too, it's still more for female than male with 2069 vs 1073 votes.

The numbers don't lie; there are less votes for paths involving sharing with other male characters.
Except one thing, you can vote for each options i you want. All possible paths involve every possibility and its what player want. Like you said, number dont lie ( when you know how to read a pool like this one ).
 
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AnimeHentaiGamer

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I think you're the one who's wrong on that one, chief. For one thing, they haven't left Patreon, they're still on it and promoting and funding Sunshine Love with it. The only reason they moved DMD to SubscribeStar is because it was not possible to change it to avoid the Patreon censors regarding incest.

Also, if you're referring to the Discord poll, the paths featuring other male characters are in the minority of votes when compared to many of the female character paths, and also when they're tallied together. Right now it stands like this:
  1. D only = 250
  2. D+Georgina = 267
  3. D+Elena = 192
  4. D+Elena+Jennifer = 370
  5. D + any of the above + Margo/Ryan = 141
  6. D + any of the above + Olivia/Graham = 178
  7. D + Martin/F sharing = 195
  8. All possible paths = 559
  9. D+Jennifer path = 112
If we take all the paths that involve just female characters and no male characters, they total 1191 votes. The paths that involve male characters total just 514 votes. Even if we add #8 to the male character total and #5,#6, and #8 to the female characters total since they technically involve these characters too, it's still more for female than male with 2069 vs 1073 votes.

The numbers don't lie; there are less votes for paths involving sharing with other male characters.

so by going by your numbers. you literally saying HALF the people want NTR. good job. "2069 vs 1073". thing is it's going to happen. i think it happen in the revision in december or literally in chapter 4 of dmd
 

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I seriously don't get the debate. Sharing has been planned from basically the start and there seems to be a good amount of people who want sharing. Considering the closest thing to sharing that has occurred is the daughter getting groped, I think it's understandable to want to see more of it. Plus if you don't want to see it then don't they've made it easier than ever to close and open paths.
 

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I think you're the one who's wrong on that one, chief. For one thing, they haven't left Patreon, they're still on it and promoting and funding Sunshine Love with it. The only reason they moved DMD to SubscribeStar is because it was not possible to change it to avoid the Patreon censors regarding incest.

Also, if you're referring to the Discord poll, the paths featuring other male characters are in the minority of votes when compared to many of the female character paths, and also when they're tallied together. Right now it stands like this:
  1. D only = 250
  2. D+Georgina = 267
  3. D+Elena = 192
  4. D+Elena+Jennifer = 370
  5. D + any of the above + Margo/Ryan = 141
  6. D + any of the above + Olivia/Graham = 178
  7. D + Martin/F sharing = 195
  8. All possible paths = 559
  9. D+Jennifer path = 112
If we take all the paths that involve just female characters and no male characters, they total 1191 votes. The paths that involve male characters total just 514 votes. Even if we add #8 to the male character total and #5,#6, and #8 to the female characters total since they technically involve these characters too, it's still more for female than male with 2069 vs 1073 votes.

The numbers don't lie; there are less votes for paths involving sharing with other male characters.
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Your argument is wrong because people can vote multiple options on those discord polls. You can't add up the votes like that to push your narrative.

At most it is 370 votes for options involving just female characters 4) D+Elena+Jennifer. The highest one involving male characters would then default to 8) All possible paths with 559 votes.

Also think you conveniently missed this poll

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Are you so insecure that you cannot even fathom having other peoples fetishes in a game even though if you actually read the dialogue and make your own choices in-game you wont even know they exist.
 
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jamdan

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That 2nd poll is just what the people on discord think about NTR, it doesn't mean NTR will be in the game. The NTR talk in this thread need to die, it's actually been pretty irritating the past few months. It's been said literally a million times, many times from one of the writers himself, that this game will not have NTR.

The only D + other guy content will be sharing/swinging, with F being there if not participating himself. MC isn't getting NTR'ed by D or cucked by one of the other guys.

Most people, as those polls show, do not really care as long as it is avoidable. Most people also play all, or at least most of the paths in the game. The issue is the pro-D share people and the anti-D share people can't stop fighting with each other, both of them are minority groups, but they seem a lot more relevant since the neutral majority simply do not care enough to post about it.
 

Holy Bacchus

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Your argument is wrong because people can vote multiple options on those discord polls. You can't add up the votes like that to push your narrative.

At most it is 370 votes for options involving just female characters 4) D+Elena+Jennifer. The highest one involving male characters would then default to 8) All possible paths with 559 votes.

Also think you missed this poll

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And? In multiple choice voting, it's not about the number of people voting but the number of votes cast for each choice, and the number of votes cast for paths featuring male characters is only around 1/3rd of the total votes cast. Even in that other poll (which I did see when it was posted), only around 1/9th of the total votes are supportive of unavoidable NTR.

Also, you can't determine the number of total voters from any of those numbers either. 370 have voted for the D+E+J path, but there could be 50 people that voted for D+G who didn't vote for that, and there could be 20 people who didn't vote for either of those but voted for the D+E path. So none of those numbers necessarily represent the total number of individual voters, but that doesn't matter in a multiple choice voting system.
 

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If there is pro-sharing and anti-sharing what is left?
D celibacy path?
If you mean extremest cliques then yeah.
I would like to see a sluttier D, but not at the expense of the game and characters that have been painstakingly developed.
 

DefNotATroll

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That 2nd poll is just what the people on discord think about NTR, it doesn't mean NTR will be in the game. The NTR talk in this thread need to die, it's actually been pretty irritating the past few months. It's been said literally a million times, many times from one of the writers himself, that this game will not have NTR.

The only D + other guy content will be sharing/swinging, with F being there if not participating himself. MC isn't getting NTR'ed by D or cucked by one of the other guys.

Most people, as those polls show, do not really care as long as it is avoidable. Most people also play all, or at least most of the paths in the game. The issue is the pro-D share people and the anti-D share people can't stop fighting with each other, both of them are minority groups, but they seem a lot more relevant since the neutrals simply do not care enough to post about it.
While I agree with you overall, I'm simply defending against fake news. Yes it has been stated multiple times, but every time I come back to this thread I see it again, the issue is the anti D+Other crowd is throwing a lot of shit under the NTR genre with the 'I don't give a shit about anyone else even if it doesn't affect me' argument
 

DefNotATroll

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And? In multiple choice voting, it's not about the number of people voting but the number of votes cast for each choice, and the number of votes cast for paths featuring male characters is only around 1/3rd of the total votes cast. Even in that other poll (which I did see when it was posted), only around 1/9th of the total votes are supportive of unavoidable NTR.

Also, you can't determine the number of total voters from any of those numbers either. 370 have voted for the D+E+J path, but there could be 50 people that voted for D+G who didn't vote for that, and there could be 20 people who didn't vote for either of those but voted for the D+E path. So none of those numbers necessarily represent the total number of individual voters, but that doesn't matter in a multiple choice voting system.
I'm not arguing for unavoidable NTR. I'm arguing most people are fine with whatever content/genre so long as its 100% avoidable. Also that's not how multiple choice works when you can answer multiple times buddy. Essentially you could have voted on every single female character option and your counting that as 5 votes instead of 1. Doesn't make sense.

No one ever started sharing content would be unavoidable. MrDots team have said multiple times anything involving D and a male character will be 100% blatantly avoidable. Your again manipulating the numbers to push your narrative, It is actually 555 votes for and 235 against.

Exactly, you just disproved your own argument for adding them together lol. Doesn't make any sense and yes it does matter lol
 

Holy Bacchus

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I'm not arguing for unavoidable NTR. I'm arguing most people are fine with whatever content/genre so long as its 100% avoidable. Also that's not how multiple choice works when you can answer multiple times buddy. Essentially you could have voted on every single female character option and your counting that as 5 votes instead of 1. Doesn't make sense.

No one ever started sharing content would be unavoidable. MrDots team have said multiple times anything involving D and a male character will be 100% blatantly avoidable. Your again manipulating the numbers to push your narrative, It is actually 555 votes for and 235 against.

Exactly, you just disproved your own argument for adding them together lol. Doesn't make any sense and yes it does matter lol
No, adding up all the votes in favour of one particular group of answers is exactly how multiple choice voting can work, at least in terms of determining a general consensus out of all the answers. It's similar to when you do a survey of individual customers and one of the answers breaks down like this:
  • Always satisfied = 378
  • Often satisfied = 267
  • Sometimes satisfied = 98
  • Rarely satisfied = 121
  • Never satisfied = 427
The "never satisfied" option may have the most indvidual votes out of all of them, but the cumulative number of votes is in favour of those who are satisfied by a score of 743 to 548. Therefore, in the case of these multiple choice votes, there are more cumulative votes against content involving other male characters than for it, thereby determing that the general consensus is not to have much focus on this content, optional or otherwise.

At the end of day, it's not about the inclusion of the content that's the issue, but that some people seem to think that it should be unduly given more focus when it is content desired by a clear minority.
 

Holy Bacchus

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I don't mind people arguing about the game content, by why do I have the feeling that ntr is always seen as the same thing as sharing/swinging. I really don't get the same vibe from each.

Anyway, looking forward to the next update tomorrow.
It's also the last update, at least for Chapter 3. Next year, Chapter 4 begins.
 
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No, adding up all the votes in favour of one particular group of answers is exactly how multiple choice voting can work, at least in terms of determining a general consensus out of all the answers. It's similar to when you do a survey of individual customers and one of the answers breaks down like this:
  • Always satisfied = 378
  • Often satisfied = 267
  • Sometimes satisfied = 98
  • Rarely satisfied = 121
  • Never satisfied = 427
The "never satisfied" option may have the most indvidual votes out of all of them, but the cumulative number of votes is in favour of those who are satisfied by a score of 743 to 548. Therefore, in the case of these multiple choice votes, there are more cumulative votes against content involving other male characters than for it, thereby determing that the general consensus is not to have much focus on this content, optional or otherwise.

At the end of day, it's not about the inclusion of the content that's the issue, but that some people seem to think that it should be unduly given more focus when it is content desired by a clear minority.
whats the point of the decision making in the game if the decisions dont really have consequences? dont want any ntr dont make those choices it looks like youre wanting a visual novel
 
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