Xia Liu Bei

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I've never had an issue with ups and downs with this game or their others, have been a stalwart patron of MrDots' team for some time.



Just when D's personality was branching out and she seemed on the verge of independent thinking that still kept in touch with the MC through mutual love, now we learn it's never been an equal part of her growth path. Instead, we're in this ride for the MC going forward.

It's not as if shtupping other guys was a necessary path for D to take in order to mature, but the entire point about her leaving her mother's cage was to choose her own path and this is one way in which she was expressing free choices in her life. In Chapter 3 it became evident that what was important to D was experiencing all life had to offer in still-responsible ways, never losing sight of the grounding in her relationship with the MC. She had so few close and/or intimate relationships in life, so she wanted to see what it was all about. And she couldn't deny loving it.

But now, that was all a lie: it meant nothing. And with it, I am guessing that many other aspects of self-determination are going a similar way. The ending has been sanitized, for unlike a path where Melody might live without the MC, here it seems proscribed that she stay anchored under the metaphorical weight of his heavy shlong - while he brings in other female friends (with whom he has already been cheating on D) for minor spice.

For the first time ever, I'm thinking heavily of my position as a never-die patron - a position I thought unlikely to occur. This is not just a change in focus or reset of an experiment, but it seems a bad faith fuck-you to a subset of fans who were happy to see a variety of growth paths and maturation possibilities with D. And now we see telegraphing of the ever-fuckable, baby-mommy path as our only option. It was always going to be part of their path together, but now with a heavy dose of vanilla-flavored Valium.

"My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined."
It’s a porn game.
 
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thanatos69

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Have you been a Patreon since the beginning? I was and that path was included with what I signed up for.
And that path will be delivered in the next update. Since the men Ryan and Martin are going separate ways, it makes sense that they won't be part of the story anymore.

I am a Georgina/Jen fan and got very few scenes with them. But I get that they're also not part of the main story.
 

crugh2112

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And that path will be delivered in the next update. Since the men Ryan and Martin are going separate ways, it makes sense that they won't be part of the story anymore.

I am a Georgina/Jen fan and got very few scenes with them. But I get that they're also not part of the main story.
And I believe there should be a bad end when Daughter learns about Father boning her friends. I doubt we will see that happen.
 

bolenart

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I used to love this game. The gradual corruption of D was great but it sound like they're stopping well before the finish line. Disappointing given that they've been teasing MMF/sharing/Marting for a long time, but it's understandable given that it seems like most fans can't stomach the idea. I don't see the appeal of the game if it's just recycling FFM scenes over and over with little further corruption.

I'm out but credit to mrdots for paving the way for these games which the internet is now choke-full of.
 

fried

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And I believe there should be a bad end when Daughter learns about Father boning her friends. I doubt we will see that happen.
Yeah, this is the saddest part about the whole retcon deal on MMF options: the game will now fully concentrate on the MC's desires ... the same desires he's been satisfying on the side of his relationship with D (by cheating), all along. And she won't care, it will have no impact on their relationship and all we have to learn is that the MC's dick will be mightier than a creative story.

It seems that the emotion we were supposed to feel about D being removed from her fairy-tale imprisonment (under her mother) and moving into the real world has simply about-faced into a pool of vanilla ice cream.

She's to become a princess character all over again: the happily-ever-after type and not much more. Funny thing is, that was always going to be part of this game's ending: however, who she became and how that happened was supposed to be the entertainment part of following this story along, from all the foreshadowing and clear insinuations since Chapter 1 of different paths and challenges along the way.
 

Starkmk87

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Yeah, this is the saddest part about the whole retcon deal on MMF options: the game will now fully concentrate on the MC's desires ... the same desires he's been satisfying on the side of his relationship with D (by cheating), all along. And she won't care, it will have no impact on their relationship and all we have to learn is that the MC's dick will be mightier than a creative story.

It seems that the emotion we were supposed to feel about D being removed from her fairy-tale imprisonment (under her mother) and moving into the real world has simply about-faced into a pool of vanilla ice cream.

She's to become a princess character all over again: the happily-ever-after type and not much more. Funny thing is, that was always going to be part of this game's ending: however, who she became and how that happened was supposed to be the entertainment part of following this story along, from all the foreshadowing and clear insinuations since Chapter 1 of different paths and challenges along the way.
Funny thing is, i really thought the photo shoot thing was supposed to be part of her independence, and fully expected her to become her own person after winning that thing, or losing and realising that life isnt always what you expect..that realisation branching into her relationship with Daddy and how hes been playing her all along for his own means, but ultimately coming back around to how he really loved her and that was the only reality all along..seems to be the theme for this vn after all
 

John Doe Jr.

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I used to love this game. The gradual corruption of D was great but it sound like they're stopping well before the finish line. Disappointing given that they've been teasing MMF/sharing/Marting for a long time, but it's understandable given that it seems like most fans can't stomach the idea. I don't see the appeal of the game if it's just recycling FFM scenes over and over with little further corruption.

I'm out but credit to mrdots for paving the way for these games which the internet is now choke-full of.
Basically started off as that and now it's moved into a pure romance story.
 

John Doe Jr.

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No more MMF scenes is going to trigger some people for sure, I both get why the fans of that stuff will be mad and why the dev team is ditching them, but quite frankly...it doesn't make sense to ditch them completely.

D and MC are still living in the same town, I assume they aren't moving again. Ryan and Martin may be leaving, but Graham and Olivia are still living in the same place too. I can't see a rational reason why Graham/Olivia won't be getting more scenes, unless they just magically move away. Olivia has been trying to get it on since the earlier chapters. It doesn't make sense to just have just 1 "real" scene and then they move on, it doesn't fit the characters personalities. It doesn't fit D's personality either, it makes no sense as to why she goes from curious about other guys to not doing anything . They may be minor paths, but don't start them in the first place just to ditch them later.

The writers have always struggled with a proper balanced story, and this just continues that struggle. Ditching paths that have just started more or less makes this a wasted chapter.
What aggravates me is that many of these paths were waited on by us and planned by the devs for years and now all of a sudden are getting cut. Hell, even in the previous chapters it was foreshadowed! And you're telling me it doesn't matter?
 

thanatos69

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What aggravates me is that many of these paths were waited on by us and planned by the devs for years and now all of a sudden are getting cut. Hell, even in the previous chapters it was foreshadowed! And you're telling me it doesn't matter?
They're not getting cut. CH4 will focus on the girls paths. MMF scenes will be added to CH3 in this update, and maybe in a future update too, as special scenes and more content.

Martin and Ryan won't be part of the story in CH4.
 
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