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Yeah, that basically turns it into NTR. Would have been fine as a casual fling, but both of them sharing her long term because they're both in love with her? They trained together a few times and now they're in love? Give me a fucking break. They barely know each other. It just feels forced and like it was done as fan service. No thanks.
For the 5000th time, NTR is cheating on a love interest (and, at this site, with intent to cause jealousy). This isn't NTR in the slightest, it's never happening outside the boundaries of the F-D bond and what they allow for each other.

The MC has expressed love for other women throughout the game, btw - and he did it behind D's back (i.e., cheating). He's still in love with D as his grounding relationship and wants to marry her.

And, per prior discussion, D can love all different people in various ways, though her core relationship remains with the MC per every communication from the MrDots team. In the heat of the moment or from someone who you really click with, that can be "love" - for those who have lived through such experiences, the differences in degrees and ways of love tend to look varied.
 

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For the 5000th time, NTR is cheating on a love interest (and, at this site, with intent to cause jealousy). This isn't NTR in the slightest, it's never happening outside the boundaries of the F-D bond and what they allow for each other.

The MC has expressed love for other women throughout the game, btw - and he did it behind D's back (i.e., cheating). He's still in love with D as his grounding relationship and wants to marry her.

And, per prior discussion, D can love all different people in various ways, though her core relationship remains with the MC per every communication from the MrDots team. In the heat of the moment or from someone who you really click with, that can be "love" - for those who have lived through such experiences, the differences in degrees and ways of love tend to look varied.
Yes, I updated my post before you finished yours and you are correct. Right now it's not technically NTR. However, what happens if D and Martin have a falling out? Maybe something that ruins the friendship, or something else happens? It would never work in the long term and the potential of it becoming an NTR situation is there. They should have just kept it casual. Like a weekend fling now and then. I'm not going to bad mouth anyone's opinion on it because to each their own and all that. Everyone's opinion is valid. I can choose not to financially support the game anymore though.
 
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Yes, I updated my post before you finished yours and you are correct. Right now it's not technically NTR. However, what happens if D and Martin have a falling out? Maybe something that ruins the friendship, or something else happens? It would never work in the long term and the potential of it becoming an NTR situation is there.
One thing to consider is that the potential of D cheating on the MC with anyone has been/will be there, regardless of what she's said or done with potential or past partners: we can play logic games all day long, but in this case the MrDots team has given us a clear answer and never wavered: it ain't happening.

They've telegraphed D and MC settling down (in some manner(s)) through Chapter 4 and there are sharing possibilities still in the mix, too - none of that says the Dev team is driving towards conflict and NTR. Heck, some of us proposed such ideas for awhile and those paths were eventually rejected, but as fans we still have varied partners as potential love/life interests going as other interesting options beyond the core relationship.

Aside, my post was never meant to dissuade or persuade you or others to support the Dev. I never stopped my pledges after their recent retcon-like announcement, waiting to see what the followup would be and how Ch. 3 ended. I feel it's setting up Ch. 4 with neat possibilities and continuing with the core relationship expectations, so is nicely creative and I remain engaged ... but others can change their mind, certainly.
 
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i was looking for this revision to see the sharing paths and i can't say i liked it that much,they turned out to be so basic and bland

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i also don't like that D still needs F to lead her by hand in every situation. she doesn't need to go full slut mode,i wouldn't like it,but i think some things she should do without constant thoughts about what would F think,do,say etc etc..
I don't think it would be cheating,F says is okay and that it would be very hypocritical that he can be shared but she can't also going by that rule she already cheated on him with Elena,Jennifer and Cassandra
 
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Walkthrough code is "notoriety" (without quotes) for anyone using the search function.
Appreciate this man. The woman who made the other mod is busy so I was gonna wait, but if this unlocks all the scenes that would be awesome. Is there a code unlock section in this version or do you need to use the code some other way?
 

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in the end we discovered that the sharing path is much better than that repetitive shit of lesbians, I still think it would be much better without the F, preferably D with any other man
 
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I think the problem for many after reading through the comments is the declaration of love for Martin not the fucking of others. A simple removal of this or changing it to something more appropriate seeing as they hardly know each other would calm a lot of people down.
Well that's just another step in the "open relationship" between F and D. A step that leads to or allows also "polyamory".

Usually a couple in an open relationship agrees that each of them may have sex also with other people, just for fun, no strings attached, and they still continue to be together and love each other (even more because they allow freedom in their relationship). That's a normal "open relationship".

But in some cases they also allow each other to develop or to allow also feelings when dealing with others. In that case we have a "polyamory" type of open relationship. In DMD, as we can remember, F told D several times that it is OK and natural for her to "have feelings" related to other women and/or men. In fact he underlined this "feelings" part more than the pure sexual part of the "agreement".

And there are many dialogues before and after the MMF scenes which clarify that feelings are allowed and should even be the "norm" in the open relationship that is built between D and F.

If you ask me I would say that whoever opted for sharing and for an open relationship between F and D, should expect also feelings for others involved on this path. Polyamory is not easy and involves a lot of talk in a couple but it clearly appears as the devs of DMD would like to go this way and not make sharing D a purely sexual experience.

To some degree, D having feelings for other men and not just fucking them for fun might even make her less of a "whore" (as the adepts of the D only path call her). This goes BTW also on the side of F who, as we all know, also has feelings for Elena, by all means for Georgina, maybe even for Jennyfer or Olivia.. and more to come.


Of course whenever feelings are involved, the anti-sharing guys will start yelling : Oooo NTR! Or the western ones among us would call it maybe "cheating". But that would be wrong when (and this is the case here) feelings for others are by mutual agreement also allowed by F and D in their relationship.

I know, polyamory is not easy to swallow even for some of us "pervs" but I don't think that polyamory yes/or no should be a choice in this game for those who chose sharing. After all it makes the whole sharing thing more.. romantic if i may say so :) And I like that touch.
 
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So.... what was the point in giving the player this choice...
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When even if you chose to take the pill you still end up with this shit?

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If you relate this to my post above then this is not a choice that would decide the path: for or against sharing.
But yes, this is at least a little strange because i also chose to take the pill and got the same pregnancy ending on all routes.

Some may consider this a bug but i would guess that it is meant to be this way because in Ch4, most probably, D just has to be pregnant all the time (9 months!).. Yes it is somehow forced on us all. And i don't like the look of pregnant women. But if the whole Ch4 is going to evolve around D's pregnancy, i would lose a lot of content if i would get now an end without her pregnant..

Imagine a swinging full swap with Graham and Olivia in Ch4 where both girls look obviously pregnant. And i would not see that scene because i chose no pregnancy? NO, i would never want to lose that scene. Let them both be more or less fat but fuck them! :)
 
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Well that's just another step in the "open relationship" between F and D. A step that leads to or allows also "polyamory".

Usually a couple in an open relationship agrees that each of them may have sex also with other people, just for fun, no strings attached, and they still continue to be together and love each other (even more because they allow freedom in their relationship). That's a normal "open relationship".

But in some cases they also allow each other to develop or to allow also feelings when dealing with others. In that case we have a "polyamory" type of open relationship. In DMD, as we can remember, F told D several times that it is OK and natural for her to "have feelings" related to other women and/or men. In fact he underlined this "feelings" part more than the pure sexual part of the "agreement".

And there are many dialogues before and after the MMF scenes which clarify that feelings are allowed and should even be the "norm" in the open relationship that is built between D and F.

If you ask me I would say that whoever opted for sharing and for an open relationship between F and D, should expect also feelings for others involved on this path. Polyamory is not easy and involves a lot of talk in a couple but it clearly appears as the devs of DMD would like to go this way and not make sharing D a purely sexual experience.

To some degree, D having feelings for other men and not just fucking them for fun might even make her less of a "whore" (as the adepts of the D only path call her). This goes BTW also on the side of F who, as we all know, also has feelings for Elena, by all means for Georgina, maybe even for Jennyfer or Olivia.. and more to come.


Of course whenever feelings are involved, the anti-sharing guys will start yelling : Oooo NTR! Or the western ones among us would call it maybe "cheating". But that would be wrong when (and this is the case here) feelings for others are by mutual agreement also allowed by F and D in their relationship.

I know, polyamory is not easy to swallow even for some of us "pervs" but I don't think that polyamory yes/or no should be a choice in this game for those who chose sharing. After all it makes the whole sharing thing more.. romantic if i may say so :) And I like that touch.
Very well written and put, and you're right in that it's only natural in an open relationship that feelings would obviously develop for others should they spend enough time together, but that they happen so quickly is the issue for many.
 
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Very well written and put, and you're right in that it's only natural in an open relationship that feelings would obviously develop for others should they spend enough time together, but that they happen so quickly is the issue for many.
Well.. comeon .. close an eye or 2 on this.. nobody's perfect. They had to do those additions in THIS update to allow Ch4 to start next year, so some things may have been a little rushed this time. Or would you have preffered to see this "romantic MMF" with Martin only next year in April or even later just to have more time to develop those feelings ? :)

The MMF scene with Martin is very well written and the whole discussion in the bath between D and M as also the talk between M and F were absolutely necessary and very well done. I chose to take it as is and enjoyed it very much. Unlike the MMF with Ryan which in my opinion was just .. mechanical and made only because for some reasons it had to be.. I like it much more with feelings (be they quick or slow) than without.
 
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Second the sex scene with Jennifer was really hot, but all this time Jennifer wants it to be special and she just lost it in a threesome?and D knowing that F had something with Jennifer and was ok with it?, yeah she was mad at the beginning but then she says that is ok because her friend wouldn't betray her? WTF
She realized that being angry with F and Jennifer would be highly hypocritical because she has done things with both Elena and Jennifer behind F's back too. Also, Jennifer confesses to still being a virgin so D knows F never had sex with her.

So.... what was the point in giving the player this choice...
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When even if you chose to take the pill you still end up with this shit?

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As she says, she THINKS she is pregnant. This is a choice that will playout in Chapter 4. As when you start Chapter 3, I assume there will be questions to determine your choices and the story will play accordingly. So, there will probably be a "Did D take her pill?" question. Y means she isn't pregnant, N means she will be pregnant.
Another game to the trash bin, that D, told Martin that she loves him is too much, thanks dev for ruining the game,
Facepalms come to me.
Does D love Elena? Jennifer? Georgina? The dialogue makes it perfectly clear D is only in love with F, but she does love others. It is fairly hammered home in the dialogue, did you not read it?
 
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