Old&Useless

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Well.. comeon .. close an eye or 2 on this.. nobody's perfect. They had to do those additions in THIS update to allow Ch4 to start next year, so some things may have been a little rushed this time. Or would you have preffered to see this "romantic MMF" with Martin only next year in April or even later just to have more time to develop those feelings ? :)

The MMF scene with Martin is very well written and the whole discussion in the bath between D and M as also the talk between M and F were absolutely necessary and very well done. I chose to take it as is and enjoyed it very much. Unlike the MMF with Ryan which in my opinion was just .. mechanical and made only because for some reasons it had to be.. I like it much more with feelings (be they quick or slow) than without.
I cannot argue with a lot of what you said as its very reasonably put, but I never choose the sharing route when given the choice so it really isn't an issue for me. I could never bring myself to share someone I loved with a friend as it would be extremely awkward for me + the potential problem of feelings developing between them.
We all have our kinks and this isn't 1 for me, but then I like exhibitionism and stranger sex and I'm pretty certain people don't like them also.
 

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So basically nothing for those who like F&D? This seems a really strange fucking decision considering this was meant to be a story primarily about a father/daughter relationship.
Characters: You can choose your name as well as your daughter's name. There will be secondary characters like your ex-wife, your daughter's best friend, your coworkers, etc. but the main focus will be on F/D content.
I'm guessing that part about the focus being on F/D content will need to be updated.
plenty of f+d content (sex and talking and dates) and some content with others (fdg 3some for example) and f+e and rest but if you play on pure f+d path then you'll have plenty to play although not as much if you include some extras on it.
 

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plenty of f+d content (sex and talking and dates) and some content with others (fdg 3some for example) and f+e and rest but if you play on pure f+d path then you'll have plenty to play although not as much if you include some extras on it.
Thanks for that :)
I do generally play for F&D as I find Elena really annoying (reminds me of Sophia who was also too pushy for me), but I do have a playthrough with Georgina & Olivia so I may try that out.
 
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what is this ? no new the end chapter 3 ? what is the new in this version ?
It filled in some blanks that where not able to be completed in the first release v.28.
It also took some feedback and added it to the VN.
 

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It filled in some blanks that where not able to be completed in the first release v.28.
It also took some feedback and added it to the VN.
What that needs is a remake. Something to replace all the bad choices, and let that poor girl win.
Or at least get everybody else fired. Could have taken video or pictures of what happens in those after-parties.
That would have been the end of everybody's career, don't you think?
I think he made her loose on purpose to end the game in the next chapter.
No modeling job no more story..The End.
 

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Hi everybody,

I don't know if it is a bug or it was already meantioned but if you are on the Georgina Path and not on Cassandra than you miss the beach scene with Georgina. You need to be on Cassandra Path at least until the scene where Cassandra tries to kiss the D. After that it doesn't matter if you "let her continue" or "refuse" you will see the scene with Georgina but if you are not on Cassandra Path before that you will miss it.
 
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So, when BBC fucks your girl when youre just sit and watch its now called "sharing", right...yeah.
even personally i would not likely watch such scenes, but yes, exactly THAT is sharing (you agree to happen).
You don't have to play that route and you can easy avoid it.
NTR would be if you DON'T agree to that.

I still wait for the day when people understand the difference between netorare (NTR), netori and netorase.

EDIT: And just to point that out -> i am in the fraction "no MMF", but still i know the difference between PLAY a route on own will and being forced to see (and you are clearly NOT forced to see if you don't want to)
 
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Guys....

I'm not objecting the idea of sharing route but really, what will be your reaction to see in chapter 4 that dee lose interest in F as lover and also she carries Martin's baby and she says to father "You will be the only one in my life, but just as F, I thought we could be more but I was wrong!" and I think you can guess the rest of it.


All I'm saying is that, after all those hard choices that had to be made as F to be able to get the full attention and love from Dee, It could be better that the MMF route just stayed as just-a-simple-fling-route... Don't you think saying "I love you" to Martin and accepting his creampie was a little bit too much!?
Can you give a reason why should the guys who doesn't like sharing should bother anyways ? Since the route is OPTIONAL i can't see a problem here..The fact that Dee said to Martin that she "love him" should not bother anyone that they are not into sharing since they never encounter that situation..For example i have no idea what's going on with Elena and Jennifer route because i don't like hence i have no reason to argue about anything in that route in here..
 

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Guys....

I'm not objecting the idea of sharing route but really, what will be your reaction to see in chapter 4 that D lose interest in F as lover and also she carries Martin's baby and she says to father "You will be the only one in my life, but just as F, I thought we could be more but I was wrong!" and I think you can guess the rest of it.


All I'm saying is that, after all those hard choices that had to be made as F to be able to get the full attention and love from D, It could be better that the MMF route just stayed as just-a-simple-fling-route... Don't you think saying "I love you" to Martin and accepting his creampie was a little bit too much!?
Well.. shit happens .. life was never meant to be easy .. or simple, not even without polyamory lol.

If you want a fairy tale with only happy endings, this kind of novels may not be what you're looking for. Because sometimes in these games and visual novels you may also find what is called a "bad ending".. that's life, you know..
 

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I still wait for the day when people understand the difference between netorare (NTR), netori and netorase.
And i still wait for the day when these manga lovers will stop using Japanese terms in a western made visual novel. Japan is a very special country, you should not mix up that very particular culture with the .. rest of the world, coz Japan is in fact.. another planet lol.

We have other terms for what happens in this and other games: sharing, swinging, open relationship, yes even cheating or cuckolding if it comes to it.. What of that is or is not netorare or netori or netorase is simply IRRELEVANT. Except for Japanese people, of course..
 
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Well.. comeon .. close an eye or 2 on this.. nobody's perfect. They had to do those additions in THIS update to allow Ch4 to start next year, so some things may have been a little rushed this time. Or would you have preffered to see this "romantic MMF" with Martin only next year in April or even later just to have more time to develop those feelings ? :)

The MMF scene with Martin is very well written and the whole discussion in the bath between D and M as also the talk between M and F were absolutely necessary and very well done. I chose to take it as is and enjoyed it very much. Unlike the MMF with Ryan which in my opinion was just .. mechanical and made only because for some reasons it had to be.. I like it much more with feelings (be they quick or slow) than without.
It seems that you have not understood what I wanted to say to me SHARE D I do not care because I have played games like DELIVERANCE (that the mc shares the wife) and there comes my point that the "love story F and D" was already no It is almost necessary to tell to give more screen to georgina, elena and jenny with F and not so much F and D and for more as people who say that story is becoming interesting or better in my opinion I say NO because I am very predictable and not like say "oh what is going to happen later I am left with the intrigue" and the story of DMD is becoming very boring (I know that you will see more content fap group sex, MMF, gangbang and ect and I think it's going for that Clear path on the route to share if it is a route hahaha I prefer to see a gangbang scene with D than to see a mature lesbian scene that most does not like me.
 

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We have other terms for what happens in this and other games: sharing, swinging, open relationship, yes even cheating or cuckolding if it comes to it.. What of that is or is not netorare or netori or netorase is simply IRRELEVANT. Except for Japanese people, of course..
agree 100% - but as long people of "western culture" use Japanese terms like NTR, they at least should use them right. I would not care if they call content "sharing, swinging, open relationship, yes even cheating or cuckolding if it comes to it", but using a term the wrong way and then claim as "Well, we changed the meaning of that" is just wrong imho

EDIT: even F95 applies the tag NTR (still in a wrong way imho) - so much for "irrelevant"
 

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It seems that you have not understood what I wanted to say to me SHARE D I do not care because I have played games like DELIVERANCE (that the mc shares the wife) and there comes my point that the "love story F and D" was already no It is almost necessary to tell to give more screen to georgina, elena and jenny with F and not so much F and D and for more as people who say that story is becoming interesting or better in my opinion I say NO because I am very predictable and not like say "oh what is going to happen later I am left with the intrigue" and the story of DMD is becoming very boring (I know that you will see more content fap group sex, MMF, gangbang and ect and I think it's going for that Clear path on the route to share if it is a route hahaha I prefer to see a gangbang scene with D than to see a mature lesbian scene that most does not like me.
However, although I would also prefer a gang bang to a lesbian scene, that doesn't mean that i would refuse to see the lesbian scenes also.. they may be nice at times. Heck, i watch even the repeated vanilla sex scenes between F and D. Since 3 chapters lol. Yes, I like to see ALL. But whoever wants to see only this or that, has clearly defined choices plus a lot of settings to change whenever needed in the top right corner of the screen.
 
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What that needs is a remake. Something to replace all the bad choices, and let that poor girl win.
Or at least get everybody else fired. Could have taken video or pictures of what happens in those after-parties.
That would have been the end of everybody's career, don't you think?
I think he made her loose on purpose to end the game in the next chapter.
No modeling job no more story..The End.
Thats pretty much what would happen in the afterparty crap... the writers have no clue how to even write with continuity... you have a girl that everyone of the other models hates and clearly said they did yet they all of a sudden forget that and join a orgy with her? This is not even mentioning it would end their careers in a heartbeat and they took their careers seriously.. They switched out Ruby whatever but the thing with Ruby is she did not even want to be in the contest her mother was making her do it the other 2 girls where there because they wanted to win and be models so no matter how you look at the events. Forcing D to lose, the after party, the orgy....
None of it even meshes its just there to create fap material and none of it would happen in a legitimate contest because it would destroy those girls and they would never be able to show their faces in the modeling industry again. Even worse is the fact no one cares.. all they care about is the sharing issues and those are actual choices if you want to or not but they are acting like a bunch of 2 years olds fighting over it. So for those dwelling on the sharing crap that is a choice you should be dwelling on stuff that isnt a choice. Like the entire contest and a after party that doesnt belong. Replace it with a scene where Tyra is getting caught in bed with the judge and event host and have her shown being disqualified instead and leave the other girls out of it because they would not have been in a situation with someone they hated. Tyras disqualification would then hand the win to D and everyone would be happy with the outcome.
 

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Thats pretty much what would happen in the afterparty crap... the writers have no clue how to even write with continuity... you have a girl that everyone of the other models hates and clearly said they did yet they all of a sudden forget that and join a orgy with her? This is not even mentioning it would end their careers in a heartbeat and they took their careers seriously.. They switched out Ruby whatever but the thing with Ruby is she did not even want to be in the contest her mother was making her do it the other 2 girls where there because they wanted to win and be models so no matter how you look at the events. Forcing D to lose, the after party, the orgy....
None of it even meshes its just there to create fap material and none of it would happen in a legitimate contest because it would destroy those girls and they would never be able to show their faces in the modeling industry again. Even worse is the fact no one cares.. all they care about is the sharing issues and those are actual choices if you want to or not but they are acting like a bunch of 2 years olds fighting over it. So for those dwelling on the sharing crap that is a choice you should be dwelling on stuff that isnt a choice. Like the entire contest and a after party that doesnt belong. Replace it with a scene where Tyra is getting caught in bed with the judge and event host and have her shown being disqualified instead and leave the other girls out of it because they would not have been in a situation with someone they hated. Tyras disqualification would then hand the win to D and everyone would be happy with the outcome.
And Dee was given a brand new smart watch don't they have cameras/mics she could have recorded Hugh and got him removed from competition as a judge or recorded tyra's threats and blackmail and get her blackballed from modelling hell even Georgina could have used her smart phone to record the conversation of tyra and her manager and get kicked from competition there are so many better ways to have wrapped up the ending of chapter 3 it doesn't work the way they have it you're right it makes zero sense to have the girls that hate tyra and are friends with Dee in an orgie and acting like total sluts even though during the truth or dare game they admit to not having as many sexual partners/being sexually active as tyra would make sense if one of the girls (Dee/Georgina/ ruby )have a Mic and broadcast tyra admit to doing stuff to blackmail/sleep with judges to win we would get at least some resolution which may be a better fit to the style of the game/writing of previous updates
 
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