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RustyV

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In the last update, a metting with Graham & Olivia is clearly mentioned in some kind of swinger club. And I doubt D & dad will only play Scrabble with them. So at least another swinging scene in the next update it seems.
This just highlights the issue of maintaining 2 viable paths that oppose each other, the D sharing path and the D only path.
How could D and F go to a swingers club on the only D path? I guess they could go there and say "Good Golly I didn't know this was THAT kind of place. We'd better go home a cleanse our relationship with a game of scrabble."
 
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This just highlights the issue of maintaining 2 viable paths that oppose each other, the D sharing path and the D only path.
How could D and F go to a swingers club on the only D path? I guess they could go there and say "Good Golly I didn't know this was THAT kind of place. We'd better go home a cleanse our relationship with a game of scrabble."
Is side-by-side softest swinging considered sharing? I know some people who just like being in a sexually charged environment with their partner.
 

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I don't know that would be a matter of personal opinion.
IMO being in a swingers club and not changing partners isn't swinging.
I guess D and F could watch what was going on and then have sex.
 

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There is no "IF" - it's confirmed several times that Ch4 will be 100% the last one. Also some minor basic details about different endings are already leaked on our discord.
Besides that, not every fucking minor side-kick counts as "lose end".
Main characters (besides F and Dee of course) are Georgina/Jennifer (both mutually exclussive to each other, and Elena.
All other characters inclussive Martin are just minor sidekicks and it's not even sure whether they will be part in any ending or not.
Well, Martin probably is kind of a major sidekick and i guess he will get his way into one of the endings, but also i guess that he woun't at all play such a big role as some over here still think and/or hope. He is still just a sidekick though.
There's still too many characters to play with which we know little about.
Coco
Self defense instructor what's her name
Elena, I don't know how that's going to work out, her being a doctor.
Jennifer, I don't know how that's going to work out either.
Georgina which I don't even know if she was in this udate and so much more.
The game is just endless with unanswered questions, so a chapter 4 is not going to answer them all.
 

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There's still too many characters to play with which we know little about.
Coco
Self defense instructor what's her name
Elena, I don't know how that's going to work out, her being a doctor.
Jennifer, I don't know how that's going to work out either.
Georgina which I don't even know if she was in this udate and so much more.
The game is just endless with unanswered questions, so a chapter 4 is not going to answer them all.
As i said: not every single character which has been met once, needs to be a fleshed out romancible character.
Some character just appear once and that's it. You should not expect that each character has a romantic route and/or is kept until the end.
Georgina had very big scene in last update, but if you are on Jennifer's path, you will not get Georgina content and vice versa. Those both paths (Georgina and Jennifer) are the only two which are mutually exclusive to each other.
 
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I hope there will be some explanation in the VN why Jennifer and Georgina paths are mutually exclusive.
At this point it seems more logistical than story driven, in that too many characters make it difficult to give them play time.
Georgina brings something to add to D and F's life, as f yet I can't see what Jennifer offers other than being a younger looking character.
 
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As i said: not every single character which has been met once, needs to be a fleshed out romancible character.
Some character just appear once and that's it. You should not expect that each character has a romantic route and/or is kept until the end.
Georgina had very big scene in last update, but if you are on Jennifer's path, you will not get Georgina content and vice versa. Those both paths (Georgina and Jennifer) are the only two which are mutually exclusive to each other.
The only characters you need an ending for (besides F and D) are Elena, and Georgina/Jennifer. Other characters can turn up in different endings, but you don't need to jam them all in just because they had a few lines in previous parts. For example, I'd like closure on Rachel, but there is no need to follow up on Maria. Olivia would be good, Ruby (while a nice character) doesn't need to be in an ending. Martin, yes, Ryan, not really. He already has an ending in part 3.
 
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As i said: not every single character which has been met once, needs to be a fleshed out romancible character.
Some character just appear once and that's it. You should not expect that each character has a romantic route and/or is kept until the end.
Georgina had very big scene in last update, but if you are on Jennifer's path, you will not get Georgina content and vice versa. Those both paths (Georgina and Jennifer) are the only two which are mutually exclusive to each other.
What?
No Georgina?
What was the Mod for then?
No wonder it felt like it was missing a big part of the story.
Jennifer being a veterinarian assistant was no big secret or big deal.
Everybody wants a piece of the F and D, they just don't know how to make the time unless they live closer to them.
And let's not forget the bad guy. He promised to make them pay when he gets out of jail.
That and a lot more is missing no matter how small.
And by that I mean the story not the bad guy.
I'm probably right about that as well.
 

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As i said: not every single character which has been met once, needs to be a fleshed out romancible character.
Some character just appear once and that's it. You should not expect that each character has a romantic route and/or is kept until the end.
Georgina had very big scene in last update, but if you are on Jennifer's path, you will not get Georgina content and vice versa. Those both paths (Georgina and Jennifer) are the only two which are mutually exclusive to each other.
you keep saying they are small/sideline characters but as you can see for a lot of people they are not and since they are quite a few (Grahm and Olivia,Coco,Martin,Rachel,etc) how do you expect them all to get one ending? Mash them all up in one update and thats it? There is so much more we could have find out about them at a slow natural pace but instead we got nothing,now imagine what's gonna happen if/when they wont get a propper ending with their storyline...
 

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you keep saying they are small/sideline characters but as you can see for a lot of people they are not and since they are quite a few (Grahm and Olivia,Coco,Martin,Rachel,etc) how do you expect them all to get one ending? Mash them all up in one update and thats it? There is so much more we could have find out about them at a slow natural pace but instead we got nothing,now imagine what's gonna happen if/when they wont get a propper ending with their storyline...
You are a Sith. You should be used to pain, cruelty, and disappointment.

Dots considers them small, side characters and it is his story...
 
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You are a Sith. You should be used to pain, cruelty, and disappointment.

Dots considers them small, side characters and it is his story...
You have no idea how right you are and yes you might be right about Dots but if that's true there's gonna be a big storm when the game ends cause i have a feeling a lot of his subs will be pissed off. My prediction after the game ends and the backlash begins he's gonna do 2-3 more endings to try and cover as much ground as possible but we'll wait and see.
 

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you keep saying they are small/sideline characters but as you can see for a lot of people they are not and since they are quite a few (Grahm and Olivia,Coco,Martin,Rachel,etc) how do you expect them all to get one ending? Mash them all up in one update and thats it? There is so much more we could have find out about them at a slow natural pace but instead we got nothing,now imagine what's gonna happen if/when they wont get a propper ending with their storyline...
You are wrong - MrDots doesnt tell the story how people demand - he tells the story as HE thinks to do. We always told that side characters will not get that huge attention as some want it to be.
This was, is, and will ever be the story of F and Dee (and Elena plus Jennifer/Georgina) - All other characters are MINOR. Some will get more attention (Martin for gods sake), while others are just there for some parts of the story without any fleshed out ending arc.
 

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In MrDots games Koko is not so much a side character as a sort of wise wizard that helps the hero on her quest.
Some characters can get quicker resolution than others. Literally a phone conversation where D talks to Rachel and finds she wants her be to happy with F and tells D that she is now involved with F's old boss Maria could tie her up. Ryan has been explained away. Graham and Olivia could just remain as close friends.
IMO bringing Ruby back would have been a better way to add a younger girl to the VN.
Jennifer just came off as a psycho in Chapter 3, best to let her go.
 

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In MrDots games Koko is not so much a side character as a sort of wise wizard that helps the hero on her quest.
Some characters can get quicker resolution than others. Literally a phone conversation where D talks to Rachel and finds she wants her be to happy with F and tells D that she is now involved with F's old boss Maria could tie her up. Ryan has been explained away. Graham and Olivia could just remain as close friends.
IMO bringing Ruby back would have been a better way to add a younger girl to the VN.
Jennifer just came off as a psycho in Chapter 3, best to let her go.
nearly full agree - except Jennifer :love:
 

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You are wrong - MrDots doesnt tell the story how people demand - he tells the story as HE thinks to do. We always told that side characters will not get that huge attention as some want it to be.
This was, is, and will ever be the story of F and Dee (and Elena plus Jennifer/Georgina) - All other characters are MINOR. Some will get more attention (Martin for gods sake), while others are just there for some parts of the story without any fleshed out ending arc.
Again they may be MINOR characters for you but not for others and you seem quite sure of yourself and what Dots wants/thinks too bad the writers arent as confident since they cant even get on the same page (eg : the pregnancy debate).Anyway time will tell and we'll see who's right when the game comes to an end.I understand trying to defend a game/dev but you seem to be kinda blind when it comes to other people and their opinions.. Let that sink in for a moment.
 

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Again they may be MINOR characters for you but not for others and you seem quite sure of yourself and what Dots wants/thinks too bad the writers arent as confident since they cant even get on the same page (eg : the pregnancy debate).Anyway time will tell and we'll see who's right when the game comes to an end.I understand trying to defend a game/dev but you seem to be kinda blind when it comes to other people and their opinions.. Let that sink in for a moment.
there is nothing to "let sink in" - not even for a moment.
MrDots delivers a product, which you may like as it is, or you may leave it.
MrDots previous made a big mistake as he listened to people and changed his previous opinion (game sunshine love - regarding Nicole) and regretted soon. It's not important what other people want or demand anymore, he sticks to his vision and does HIS game like HE wants. People may like it, or leave it.
Funny fact: MrDots gets a LOT of support mails who tell him that it's absolutely fine how he does on patreon and subscribestar, and nearly none who complain about anything. Only complainers are over here and few other pirate sites, who call out that "they" are the people who can tell what a dev should do best. So let those people rage - those who do mostly aren't even supporters. We have over 4k supporters, among them there are about few dozen who complain (mostly about everything and always). So ... who cares?
And with that, i am out of this discussion - i told what's gonna happen - not my fault if people still don't want to listen and being disappointed after all.
 
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