minombrehota

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The tags are pretty much on point with this game. I'll give the dev team one point of credit it's that they really blur the lines for which character the tag applies to. I walked into DMD expecting the tags to apply strictly and exclusively to the main target..."D'. But in reality, the tag applies to every character. What really bothers me is that there is a noticeable NTR community on this site and the Dev team, IN MY OPINION (wanna clarify this), go out of their way to tease that community with potential NTR only to sweep that from under us. I understand Mr.Dots stated clearly that NTR will not be a thing in their games, fine. If that's the case, don't use pseudo-NTR for story telling elements.

The game itself is fun. The story is pretty solid and the scenes are enjoyable...albeit growing a bit repetitive. But with each update from Chapter 3 onwards, it's felt like the team is still workshopping story telling ideas. Like the story is still trying to find itself. In my opinion, this game can go sideways very quickly if things continue to progress towards the ending at a snail's pace. Something needs to happen at the creative and developmental level to not draw this out too much that fans end up hating it.
 

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The tags are pretty much on point with this game. I'll give the dev team one point of credit it's that they really blur the lines for which character the tag applies to. I walked into DMD expecting the tags to apply strictly and exclusively to the main target..."D'. But in reality, the tag applies to every character. What really bothers me is that there is a noticeable NTR community on this site and the Dev team, IN MY OPINION (wanna clarify this), go out of their way to tease that community with potential NTR only to sweep that from under us. I understand Mr.Dots stated clearly that NTR will not be a thing in their games, fine. If that's the case, don't use pseudo-NTR for story telling elements.

The game itself is fun. The story is pretty solid and the scenes are enjoyable...albeit growing a bit repetitive. But with each update from Chapter 3 onwards, it's felt like the team is still workshopping story telling ideas. Like the story is still trying to find itself. In my opinion, this game can go sideways very quickly if things continue to progress towards the ending at a snail's pace. Something needs to happen at the creative and developmental level to not draw this out too much that fans end up hating it.
there is no ntr !
We always exactly explained why.
We make differences between netorare (NTR) (Fucking with intention to take away the love interest), netorase and netori.
It's not the same whether your love interest is taken away from you, or you share your beloved with others willingly. Also seeing other couples fucking is not NTR.
It's not our fault that other people still pack all "sex with others" together and call that NTR as term for everything.
They can call out games like they want and tag them like they want... still we stick to the original meaning.
On our discord we also EXACTLY explain in #info-faq how exactly we see and define NTR.
 
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Sesinho

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I almost laugh when i read that complaining about tags is not review material... Its like companies never have been sued for false advertisement.
It is like you going to the movies cause you watched an awesome trailer of a film, you pay 30$ and the awesome trailer was an irrelevant part of the film, and the film was shit.

I mean, one thing is having a misconception about NTR for instance, and give it a bad review cause of wrong tags, but if you search for tags and you download 3GB and tags are wrong, maybe you have the right to warn other people, who is searching for info, in the reviews.

Anyway, to say something useful, there is no NTR in this game, you get the choice (more like choices, cause its actaully a sequence of choices) to willingly allow Dee to "experiment", though some love is added to this experimentation, out of nowhere, but well, it is what it is. Decisions
 
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ProofreadingRUS

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So many wrong choices in this game.
Agreeing to give modeling another try.
I just hope the game developer doesn't mess that up again and finds a way for D to loose again.
I don't even know how that picture got taken. I distinctively remember not kissing, D outdoors, but it got taken anyway, which led to that bad ending.
Also agreeing to have sex outdoors is just asking for it again if she wants to be a model... again.
Also marriage???
That can't be legal anywhere, maybe on Fantasy Island.
What a waste of time that is if F and D keep whining about it.
It'll be Tyra's revenge in chapter 5 if this keeps up.
Tyra will mess up one or the other or both. D's marriage or career, it doesn't matter.
 

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This is the last Chapter of DMD.
The VN takes place in it's own universe so D and F getting married my be easier.
How and why D lost the modeling competition has been troubling for many players. D losing seemed to contradict earlier choices.
 

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I almost laugh when i read that complaining about tags is not review material... Its like companies never have been sued for false advertisement.
It is like you going to the movies cause you watched an awesome trailer of a film, you pay 30$ and the awesome trailer was an irrelevant part of the film, and the film was shit.

I mean, one thing is having a misconception about NTR for instance, and give it a bad review cause of wrong tags, but if you search for tags and you download 3GB and tags are wrong, maybe you have the right to warn other people, who is searching for info, in the reviews.

Anyway, to say something useful, there is no NTR in this game, you get the choice (more like choices, cause its actaully a sequence of choices) to willingly allow Dee to "experiment", though some love is added to this experimentation, out of nowhere, but well, it is what it is. Decisions
well - you know that tags are applied by F95 staff and NOT by the developers?
So you can't rate or review a game and downvote it just because of missing and/or "wrong" tags, if a developer has NO influence.
So maybe rate the F95 staff for their rules however you like, but please let those stuff outside game reviews.

Or do you realy want to tell me (or tell a developer) that his game is crap because some MODERATOR put a tag on a pirate site?
Exactly this is why those reviews are worth nothing. Every creep is allowed to downvote the game without thinking
 
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This is the last Chapter of DMD.
The VN takes place in it's own universe so D and F getting married my be easier.
How and why D lost the modeling competition has been troubling for many players. D losing seemed to contradict earlier choices.
If this is indeed the last chapter and there wont be a ch5 ,the dev and the writers are on the train to perdition cause they have way to many lose ends to tie up and by the looks and pace of things they wont be able to do much and a lot of people will be left with a sour taste in their mouths but maybe i'm wrong and they'll start improving things starting with the next update although i highly doubt it.
 
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If this is indeed the last chapter and there wont be a ch5 ,the dev and the writers are on the train to perdition cause they have way to many lose ends to tie up and by the looks and pace of things they wont be able to do much and a lot of people will be left with a sour taste in their mouths but maybe i'm wrong and they'll start improving things starting with the next update although i highly doubt it.
There is no "IF" - it's confirmed several times that Ch4 will be 100% the last one. Also some minor basic details about different endings are already leaked on our discord.
Besides that, not every fucking minor side-kick counts as "lose end".
Main characters (besides F and Dee of course) are Georgina/Jennifer (both mutually exclussive to each other, and Elena.
All other characters inclussive Martin are just minor sidekicks and it's not even sure whether they will be part in any ending or not.
Well, Martin probably is kind of a major sidekick and i guess he will get his way into one of the endings, but also i guess that he woun't at all play such a big role as some over here still think and/or hope. He is still just a sidekick though.
 
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Sadly you are not wrong. But again. When here f95's tag definition is all that matters no matter what someone "feels" or "vibes"
yea but tell that to players that f95's definition is only what matters.

So many wrong choices in this game.
Agreeing to give modeling another try.
I just hope the game developer doesn't mess that up again and finds a way for D to loose again.
I don't even know how that picture got taken. I distinctively remember not kissing, D outdoors, but it got taken anyway, which led to that bad ending.
Also agreeing to have sex outdoors is just asking for it again if she wants to be a model... again.
Also marriage???
That can't be legal anywhere, maybe on Fantasy Island.
What a waste of time that is if F and D keep whining about it.
It'll be Tyra's revenge in chapter 5 if this keeps up.
Tyra will mess up one or the other or both. D's marriage or career, it doesn't matter.
modeling and modeling competition are 2 different things, tyra won latter so she got what she wanted so she's outta picture and d will become successful model.

they kissed if chose right option (and devs assumed that every1 made that choice).

daddy daughter marriages are legal on few places and this and devs other games don't happen any real world countries.
 
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Sad that the swinging part of the story looks like it will go unfulfilled. I guess it was just a way to introduce a landlord for an apartment in Seaside. I liked the couple and looked forward to potential interactions. Hyperserver alludes to no future for that path. Alas sidekicks, your potential was there but now you are a passing footnote.
 
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yea but tell that to players that f95's definition is only what matters.
Yeah, all those so-called "alpha males" insisting that you consider their feelings.
modeling and modeling competition are 2 different things, tyra won latter so she got what she wanted so she's outta picture and d will become successful model.
I think one reason that Tyra is not out of the picture is that though Tyra won the competition, she did not win the hearts of the public. D's career has the potential to outshine Tyra's. Karma, you know.
they kissed if chose right option (and devs assumed that every1 made that choice).
I thought the case was if you chose to be careful, D kissed you anyway. I was a bit disappointed, but came to realize there was a reason, story-wise to have things play out that way.
daddy daughter marriages are legal on few places and this and devs other games don't happen any real world countries.
If I remember, Parental Love avoided that issue by taking place in a future. Specifically, a future where in 2023 (due to available gene therapies}, incestuous relationships were made legal. Such marriages also became legal in the Virgin Islands.
 
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