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Dragon59

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Your true complaint is that Mr. Dots failed to choose a story arc that catered to your desired outcome. Fair enough, everyone has preferences and there is no accounting for taste, and in the end the author can only accommodate a limited number of desires.
Seems like a bit of projection there. I can't speak for RustyV, but I think many of us are primarily pointing out that the game will end before those "vanilla" petals are gone. That implies kinks were originally planned for the game but abandoned. There are a number of players who argue that their aversions should not exist in games, even if avoidable.
No the author can cater to everyone's desires as long as it's optionnal.
But what is true is both "sides" would then complain that MrDots is waisting time making content for the other side.
Maybe he could have gotten away with it telling "the Vanilla story ends at this point, we've done all that was possible to do with the D only path, now next chapter will be mostly sharing and weirder sexual fetishes".
And then there's the Vanilla extremists who cannot even bear the possibility that content they don't like exists, even if they can avoid it. You know, these people taking games for reality.
Exactly! My eyes get sore from all the eye-rolling these people cause.
The issue being that Vanilla lovers seem to be the vast majority of people who actually pay. And for knowing someone who has a business related to 3D porn, and who knows other creators too, Americans are like 80% of paying customers. So they are a blessing because money, but an issue for others because they love Vanilla so much.

So please Europe, Asia, Africa, Antarctica, South America, Australia : PAY THE FUCKING CREATORS ! So all the subscriber based porn content in the world doesn't become boring Vanilla.

We could also wait 20 years until Americans get bored of Vanilla, but then maybe their kids will pay for more vanilla :cry:
As a kinky American, I agree with you. I'm planning on getting into the game making game, and I know my games will NOT be friendly to the most vanilla. Sharing cannot be optional because it will be essential to a polyamory focused game.

I wish we could cast off the rest of the Puritanical layers and join the 21st Century. At the very least, can we let them live and let live instead of trying to regulate other people's lives?
Antarctica--there are a LOT of FetLife profiles for people claiming 99 years old from Antarctica.
 

Cherubin25

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No the author can cater to everyone's desires as long as it's optionnal.
But what is true is both "sides" would then complain that MrDots is waisting time making content for the other side.
Maybe he could have gotten away with it telling "the Vanilla story ends at this point, we've done all that was possible to do with the D only path, now next chapter will be mostly sharing and weirder sexual fetishes".
And then there's the Vanilla extremists who cannot even bear the possibility that content they don't like exists, even if they can avoid it. You know, these people taking games for reality.

The issue being that Vanilla lovers seem to be the vast majority of people who actually pay. And for knowing someone who has a business related to 3D porn, and who knows other creators too, Americans are like 80% of paying customers. So they are a blessing because money, but an issue for others because they love Vanilla so much.

So please Europe, Asia, Africa, Antarctica, South America, Australia : PAY THE FUCKING CREATORS ! So all the subscriber based porn content in the world doesn't become boring Vanilla.

We could also wait 20 years until Americans get bored of Vanilla, but then maybe their kids will pay for more vanilla :cry:
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No the author can cater to everyone's desires as long as it's optionnal."

Exactly!
I would have been happier with a longer development time but with more spicy content. But, I joined way too late, when I discovered the game (Chapter 3, shortly before the Model Competition), it was already a vanilla snoozefest.

And I really dont get the logic behind that - if the Content is optional, people who dont like said content have the option to never see it. But even then someone said that it is weird because others have "their" daughter in a way they (the player) do not like.
However, all I am thinking at this point is that those people probably dont look like the MC at all, so it is not even "their" daughter.

But eh, it is whatever.
 
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relayer

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there is no qualitative growth ...:poop:

everything was possible to do in ch 1 .... ch2 ch 3 ch4 (n) is borring empty milking the cow :BootyTime:
 
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cxx

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Barely 15 and not just for Penthouse. She made a series of very hardcore porn videos, very hardcore porn , as in pretty much anything you can imagine for mainstream porn of that period.

Her early stuff is available in Europe, or at least it used to be, but banned here (in the USA) for a long time.
well she was out of industry before anal and dp came and bdsm wasn't thing either.

Which chapter is the bbc scene in? Why isn't Ch.4 available here for download?
end of ch3 (if you make right choices before end and earlier) and current update of ch4 is here (full ch4 you gotta wait some months).
 

Jeff Steel

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What do you expect? DMD has become more middle of the road so there are only so may sexual activities for D.
The D Only path has dulled the D Sharing path. It is doubtful we will see D go to a swingers club and have sex just for fun, or see her strip, or see her have sex without F being present (I don't mean NTR), hook up with a girl, or any of a multitude of sexual corruption we thought D would under take back in Chapter 1.
So much promise in the beginning but now it looks like so little variety will become part of D's story.
There are still two set pieces that are “swingers club-like” left to be done with Olivia/Graham and Koko. But then again, I see swingers club, sex club, and sex party as different things - but that is just me.

As for D having sex with a male without F present? That may never happen. But as to a female?

Not sure if Dee will ever do a traditional strip tease, with or without a pole.
 

cxx

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d has had sex with other female at least once w/o daddy being present.
 

RustyV

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You have an interesting idea of middle of the road...

Why, given the history of the character over the last 5 years of story development, would Dee what to go to a swingers club and "just have sex for fun"? Do you really see that as part of her character?

Dee had sex with a girl early on, as in her best friend. She hasn't had sex with a girl who is a stranger to her. Once again given the character development why would you expect her to want that?

It's also worth considering whether or not F&D's relationship could survive the level of corruption people discuss here. If the relationship collapses there is no game. You can blame Mr. Dots for not blowing up his game to chase a bunch of tags that reflect the desires of a minority of his followers, but realistically his actions only make sense.

I understand that there is a significant percentage of the people who follow this game who really desire the total debasement of Dee. I also understand that 5 years ago Mr. Dots offered that as a possibility. Didn't happen because she was too cute, too naive, too vulnerable, and weirdly too innocent. She captured the hearts of the patrons and Mr. Dots wasn't and isn't willing to kill his cash cow to cater to the minority who are disappointed.

Lack of variety. She's experienced every type of sex with her father, in a wide variety of places. She's enjoyed lesbian sex with her best friend. Depending on your choices she's screwed her photographer, in a scenario where her father was screwing the photographer's date. She and her father had sex alongside another father daughter couple who were screwing their brains out.She's had a threesome with her father and the woman he plans to make a permanent member of their family. I don't follow the "sharing" path so I don't know if your choice allow her to screw Martin, but I'm given to understand that's available.

She's 18-19 years old. That sexual history seems to offer a lot of variety for someone that age.

Your true complaint is that Mr. Dots failed to choose a story arc that catered to your desired outcome. Fair enough, everyone has preferences and there is no accounting for taste, and in the end the author can only accommodate a limited number of desires.
No my observation was that DMD has veered away from Sharing and Corrupting Dee to morph into a Romance novel. And that anyone hoping to see D corruption variety will be sorely disappointed.
Simply stated if you are looking to corrupt D abandon hope all ye who play DMD.
 

Nalex

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Well, a lot of words but the question hasn't been answered...

Jeff Steel, do you know why MrDots shares only 1 pic per preview now ?
 

Kryptozoid

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Jeff Steel, do you know why MrDots shares only 1 pic per preview now ?
Because there's AI tools now that can recreate the entire episode from 5 pictures. I had all the CG from every episode with 5 pictures previews one month in advance. You just need 8x RTX 10090.

Btw I'm writing from the year 2055 :D
 

Dragon59

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No my observation was that DMD has veered away from Sharing and Corrupting Dee to morph into a Romance novel. And that anyone hoping to see D corruption variety will be sorely disappointed.
Simply stated if you are looking to corrupt D abandon hope all ye who play DMD.
Corruption, or awakening her kinky side? Difference of perspective, I guess.
 

UncleFredo

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This is one place 4chan messed up badly imo. I would have preferred elena as the daughter as well.
Tastes vary, but Dee has what ten times the fan art of Elena? Plus she's been copied on multiple other games, which as far as I know is not the case for Elena. I get that you have a different preference, but numbers don't lie. Had Mr. Dots made Elena the daughter, there is a VERY good chance that DMD would have died in its first year.
 
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ciderapple

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Tastes vary, but Dee has what ten times the fan art of Elena? Plus she's been copied on multiple other games, which as far as I know is not the case for Elena. I get that you have a different preference, but numbers don't lie. Had Mr. Dots made Elena the daughter, there is a VERY good chance that DMD would have died in its first year.
Note the word 'imo' in my post. then realize that I don't care what the majority of people may think, because all that matters to me is my opinion in that statement.
 
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Irgendwie Irgendwo

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Lack of variety. She's experienced every type of sex with her father, in a wide variety of places. She's enjoyed lesbian sex with her best friend. Depending on your choices she's screwed her photographer, in a scenario where her father was screwing the photographer's date. She and her father had sex alongside another father daughter couple who were screwing their brains out.She's had a threesome with her father and the woman he plans to make a permanent member of their family. I don't follow the "sharing" path so I don't know if your choice allow her to screw Martin, but I'm given to understand that's available.
Don't know if you've seen the Ryan scene. Martin is just the same in Ryan's place. Same way to get there, he has to save her from the party.

Which chapter is the bbc scene in? Why isn't Ch.4 available here for download?
Martin's scene is at the end of C3, if you are on his path. C4 is available here, of course, in the usual place in the OP.
 

Corvus Belli

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And I really dont get the logic behind that - if the Content is optional, people who dont like said content have the option to never see it.
I'm not sure what part of the logic you're having trouble with; on the most basic level it's "the more stuff you spend time on that I'm not intersted in, the less time you have left to spend on the stuff I want."
If we're talking about Patreons (the only people whose opinion actually matters to MrDots) then they might have decided "two-thirds of his development time is spent on content I have no interest in, rather than the stuff I'm paying him for, so why exactly am I paying for this?"
There is simply a finite amount of time he can spend on each update, and every week that's spent on the optional stuff that the majority of users will never see is pointless, from the point-of-view of the majority of his customer base. Him spending half the development time on content that only 20% of his customer base want to see would be a terrible idea, since it'd be fundamentally identical to telling them "I'm only gonna spend two weeks on content you'll see this update; that's worth two months Patreon money, right?"
 
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