RustyV

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I think they wanted to release something and just rushed it out. I am confident this next update in September will add a lot of content and fill out the first parts a bit too. Fingers crossed. What I really want to see is D start to really get into social media and start getting more and more corrupted kind of like how things progressed in the VN Good girl gone bad. Btw if anyone hasn't played that one it is a must play if you like corruption.
September will be the 5 year anniversary of DMD.
 

proximus

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I find it quite funny and ironic* that the anti-vanilla crowd keeps complaining how the Vanilla crowd forced Mr. Dots from his initial vision with 0 evidence. Have you ever considered maybe Mr. D vision changed? His writers and mods on discord have always said their main focus is always the relationship of F and Dee. All other characters/paths are just minor and is not important to be completely fleshed out. It was only to add fetishes for certain fans but was never intended to be seriously focused on.

But lets pretend though that what you're complaining about is true. (I admit, it does make logical sense) Have you thought about how that happened?

Mr. D made the game lean a certain way and based on some of the responses recently, you pulled your support. Well that leaves Mr. D even more beholden to the Vanilla crowd. So congratulations, you played yourself. You made your bed now lie in it.

Before someone say "well it wouldn't have made a difference, the Vanilla crowd is much bigger than us". Well tough shit. Why should Mr. D piss off majority of his base that he relies on to pay his rent to cater to the wants of the minority. Face reality, no one (individual or company) is going against their bottom line.

You all can continue to criticize the game but it gets tiring to read about since there is no solution to be had and its the same talking points over and over again but in different words.



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It is not even so much about being vanilla. Game simply stalled. Basically it boils down to this: Try some sexy outfits, take few pictures (in those outfits or nude). Then, have sex with F or do some MFF combination. Rinse and repeat.
Sharing scenes with Ryan and Martin were afterthought and were added to appease sharing crowd. Those appear very rushed.
This has been going on since beginning of the chapter 3.

So many good opportunities have been wasted. That nude beach was a perfect setting and has not been explored.
D and Olivia scene with peeping Tom was hot. Graham watching D and Olivia pleasing MC as well.
Maybe getting drunk with MC, Coco and Elena and going to nude beach at night just to discover bunch of other couples that are already there. Doesn't even have to be sharing. Some exhibitionism: MC, D, Elena and Coco 4-some in front of other couples. For sharing route, maybe some beach orgies either by adding friends like Graham, Martin and Ryan or with random couples. Basically, MFFMMFFMF. Any of this would spice up the story significantly.

I respect everyone's opinion but to me it appears that devs either run out of ideas or are too afraid to take any risks with game and will go in same direction as long as patrons keep supporting the game.
 
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EDJ23

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Speaking of wasted moments,....Balloon ride, they could have had sex or more oral sex or more perverted an anal in the heights kkkk so Dee threw her panties full of sperm falling in her mother's face..then she would say, this taste is familiar to me hahaha
 

cxx

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I still only care about D and Elena, but somehow that path has been lacking as of late. The longer this game goes on, the more I get disappointed.
well elena is busy with studies and f and d have their own things so those 3 together isn't as common as before.

I this game goiing to get a Harem route later on?
well they (f, d and g) are supposed to looklike normal family so outside elena randomly popping up and maybe cassandra too it won't be more than 3some.
 

Kryptozoid

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Based on the previews so far, the next update will also be boring...
Based on last update there should be a scene with Graham & Olivia, which would be less boring than the previews we've seen so far. But it's not 100% sure. And until now the most boring DmD update was still less boring than the best update of Sunshine Vanilla.
 

JonasSnr

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If DMD will be extended into 2022 it is only because there would only be 2 maybe 3 updates left and that doesn't seem to leave enough time to be properly concluded.
Agree, but so far in CH4 have we actually had any meaningful updates? What story are they trying to tell? Except the final update will be the ending of your choice, and could have been done for the end of CH3 and the fall out after the Beauty Comp mess. So far CH4 is meaningless, and i cant see it getting much better, but i am sticking with it hoping i am wrong......i usually am.......well sometimes :)
 

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What has been presented in Chapter 4 could have been done in 1 update if all of the filler conversations consisting of long drawn out explanations of minutia were left out.
Amen. I reached out to the dev team a while back to mention that DMD and Sunshine Love have hit new highs in filler-quality, non-conversational dialog and is a huge turn-off for anyone that is actually trying to follow the story. The amount of "this is water is very clear and just the right temperature, which makes it quite refreshing" is just too much.

I think this is improving slightly, but I wish the devs would look at other games with more natural, conversational dialog.
 
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GamesR4fun

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well elena is busy with studies and f and d have their own things so those 3 together isn't as common as before.



well they (f, d and g) are supposed to looklike normal family so outside elena randomly popping up and maybe cassandra too it won't be more than 3some.
Regardless of who it is, I don't see why it limits you down on any of there are so many options for it to become a harem and still to look like a family, and they can take a page for sisterly lust if they wanted and have them find a place its legal and accepted or laws made for it this is a fantasy game world after all.
 

cxx

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Regardless of who it is, I don't see why it limits you down on any of there are so many options for it to become a harem and still to look like a family, and they can take a page for sisterly lust if they wanted and have them find a place its legal and accepted or laws made for it this is a fantasy game world after all.
it is legal where they live but since money comes from d's modelling they need to appear as normal daddy-daughter relationship and later when daddy marries georgina need appear as normal family. if there'll be harem then elena and possibly cassandra will be part of it, jennifer is possible too but then they'd need to separate g's and j's paths blocking eachother.
 

rciik

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cxx said:
well elena is busy with studies and f and d have their own things so those 3 together isn't as common as before.
That all is irrelevant, because they can still live together or do whatever is necessary. Now it is all about non-relevant people (like Martin, Cassandra and what not) which are all meaningless for me.

The vibe we had when we first met Elena was fucking amazing and every encounter made you beg for more, but now - we are rushing to a forced ending with a million lines of filler madness. Who the fuck proofreads that shit anyway? It is a PORN game.
 

Kryptozoid

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we are rushing to a forced ending with a million lines of filler madness. Who the fuck proofreads that shit anyway? It is a PORN game.
Not saying there is no filler in DmD, but you obviously never played Innocent Witches :D Otherwise, you'd see DmD more positively on this front.
Agree about the ending being rushed, tho. I'll never understand why they don't just go on with DmD as long as it still makes money. I'll never understand the need to say "This is gonna end after update xyz". Who cares ? Just go on at a normal pace, without "6 months later" flashforwards until it's not profitable anymore. Then it ends and that's it.
 
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rciik

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Never played it, but even though the game is no longer the jewel it once was - I'll still play the new(er) versions.

I am really curious on what the team is going to do once DMD is finished, because there is still loads of untold story potential left. Imagine being able to have children with D, jumping 18 years ahead and have Elena (in your harem) do loads of unspoken things with your daughter(s). I would pay for that shit.
 

sakosux

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It's kind of funny reading the last 10 pages of this thread. People saying the game got boring and blaming people who didn't want NTR. (I agree Chapter 4 is lackluster). Here's the simple truth, more optional paths = more work /= more SS money.

You can look at any of the creators Patreon or SS and see that the vast majority of the money comes from people who like "vanilla" relationships or harem with no other males. Yeah, it sucks for people who want to see more varied or exciting content, however from what I seen of this games development, MrDots is trying to make "his" story while making sure he doesn't alienate his SS audience. (which is perfectly normal).

All I can suggest is try to seek out games with the content you like and supporting them (even sharing them so more people discover the project), I personally want to see more non-vn adult games so that's what I support.

As for Chapter 4, it seems like the storyline wasn't planned at all after Chapter 2, with Chapter 3 working out somehow. (although it took a long time). So now, they are kind of just filling it with content for the sake of content. I hope the new update brings back some excitement back.
 

justin 13

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It's kind of funny reading the last 10 pages of this thread. People saying the game got boring and blaming people who didn't want NTR. (I agree Chapter 4 is lackluster). Here's the simple truth, more optional paths = more work /= more SS money.

You can look at any of the creators Patreon or SS and see that the vast majority of the money comes from people who like "vanilla" relationships or harem with no other males. Yeah, it sucks for people who want to see more varied or exciting content, however from what I seen of this games development, MrDots is trying to make "his" story while making sure he doesn't alienate his SS audience. (which is perfectly normal).

All I can suggest is try to seek out games with the content you like and supporting them (even sharing them so more people discover the project), I personally want to see more non-vn adult games so that's what I support.

As for Chapter 4, it seems like the storyline wasn't planned at all after Chapter 2, with Chapter 3 working out somehow. (although it took a long time). So now, they are kind of just filling it with content for the sake of content. I hope the new update brings back some excitement back.
you are correct criticising or complaining for non vanilla content in these types game will not do anything instead try supporting creators who are making games of your types. supporting them more is the only solution.
 
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evko

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It's kind of funny reading the last 10 pages of this thread. People saying the game got boring and blaming people who didn't want NTR. (I agree Chapter 4 is lackluster).
The fact is that initially the creators said that in chapter 4 there will be NTR and it will be hot. And all because the creators have already sucked everything that is possible from the vanilla story. In the end, everyone will soon get tired of it, like BB without Eric...
 
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