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punisher2099

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really good, like they haven't read thread at all.



well martin out of picture, ryan is gone so unless devs will do more swinging scenes with that other daddy-daughter couple or elena or georgina fucks dee with strapon then nope.
You forgot about those what if/bonus things the dev plans on adding.
 

Cernunnos.

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So the only way to avoid the forced swinger's night at the club with Olivia/Graham is to turn off their route entirely? Cause that shit doesn't fly with me.

Seriously. We get a choice for whether or not we want to change pet names but not the option to leave an event when we were lured to it under false pretenses?
 
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Skeltom

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So the only way to avoid the forced swinger's night at the club with Olivia/Graham is to turn off their route entirely? Cause that shit doesn't fly with me.

Seriously. We get a choice for whether or not we want to change pet names but not the option to leave an event when we were lured to it under false pretenses?
That scene can happen even if you aren't on their path if you pick option 2 before the date. You show up there instead of going to the boat. Depending on what key you use you can end up with D so she doesn't mess around with Graham, but yeah not my thing at all either. A lot of the scenes in the game are traps like that though. Like accepting Margo in the park leads to Ryan man handling D with no way out of it. I think it's pretty dumb personally. There is no reason you shouldn't be able to say "No".
 

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Is there pregnancy content in this game at the moment? Last time I downloaded it, there was just the false pregnancy scare thing.
 

Trikus

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There is, however, potential for the player feeling jealous.
So it comes down to how you interpret the definition. :unsure:
You keep putting out dumb ideas. It doesn't matter if the player feels jealous because the player isn't the MC. This isn't a game where the MC is a blank slate you can pretend is you. He is a developed character. The reader feeling jealous is not NTR.

However, my argument was not "DmD contains NTR" but


The last sentence in that bit is something that may lead to NTR in the future.

Unless you want to, like some people above did, argue that "Dee may love Martin but is in love with F, and that is what counts."

Personally I don't agree with that either, but ok...

To be clear, I don't give a fuck whether DmD contains or ever will contain NTR. It's fully and easily avoidable anyway. I'm simply giving my opinion on the relationship between Dee and Martin.
Again, you are treating your opinion as fact, when the facts say something completely different. You really need to learn the difference between fact and opinion.

Since dad and daughter are in Sunshine bay. I'd like to see them meet up with the MC and his sis from Sunshine love and have a foursome/swapping scene.

DMD dad could be taking his daughter out on a date to some dance club and Sunshine love MC and his sis could be there at the same club on a date, they bump into each other and hit it off, then they get drunk together then decide to head back to DMD's hotel room.

Hell it would be even better if they bumped into Sunshine loves girlfriend Nicole and after the initial shock of running into her all of them get drunk together then head back to daddy and daughter's hotel and have a nice 5some/swinging/ganbanging orgie. :D

Yeah it is just a dream in my head but damn does is it sound really good.
Sunshine Love takes place a few years after DMD. Kristina bases her look on a famous model, which is clearly D, yet D isn't a famous model yet. It is possible for a cameo from Sis but the MC from the game would be working in his rainy city.
 

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Sunshine Love takes place a few years after DMD. Kristina bases her look on a famous model, which is clearly D, yet D isn't a famous model yet. It is possible for a cameo from Sis but the MC from the game would be working in his rainy city.
sl (mc getting call from sis) happens 5 years after dmd (and 10 years after end of melody) so sl sis might make appearance although unlikely, ashley could make appearance if dee and f are long enuf in town for masquerade party or they change hotel.
 

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You keep putting out dumb ideas. It doesn't matter if the player feels jealous because the player isn't the MC. This isn't a game where the MC is a blank slate you can pretend is you. He is a developed character. The reader feeling jealous is not NTR.
I never thought the MC was a very developed character. He has opinions of his own sure, but not in a sexual sense. Unless you count being perfectly fine with everything D is. Aside from the him asking if she really wants it he just goes along with whatever happens. Even when the player has a chance to stop a situation you will usually get a few lines of inner monologue from D saying how she guesses he want into it as much as she was.

You also can't completely disregard a players personal opinions of the events. This isn't a KN where you are just along for the ride, even though it feels like that at times. The players are always going to have personal preferences and being able to choose them is kind of the whole point. Expecting every player to just go with it is an unrealistic expectation. In a sense the MC and D are a blank slate in sexual situations. You can be for or against something, I just don't think it's executed particularly well.
 
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I never thought the MC was a very developed character. He has opinions of his own sure, but not in a sexual sense. Unless you count being perfectly fine with everything D is. Aside from the him asking if she really wants it he just goes along with whatever happens. Even when the player has a chance to stop a situation you will usually get a few lines of inner monologue from D saying how she guesses he want into it as much as she was.

You also can't completely disregard a players personal opinions of the events. This isn't a KN where you are just along for the ride, even though it feels like that at times. The players are always going to have personal preferences and being able to choose them is kind of the whole point. Expecting every player to just go with it is an unrealistic expectation. In a sense the MC and D are a blank slate in sexual situations. You can be for or against something, I just don't think it's executed particularly well.
None of that matters. This discussion here is apparently once again about the forum definition of NTR (which has nearly nothing to do with the real definition). And according to the forums definition, a scene is NTR when a LI has sex with someone other than the MC + the MC feels jealous about it. And that is the crux of the matter: it's about the MC's feelings, not the player's.

First of all, there are only extremely few scenes in the game where there is only the option that a LI ever has sex with someone else. The game was originally planned completely differently, but under pressure from most of the patreons it developed in this way. And in the scenes that exist today where a LI has sex with someone else, the MC is not jealous. The inner monologues you mentioned prove it, as do countless dialogues between F/D. And with that, according to the forum definition, the topic of NTR is off the table.
 

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None of that matters. This discussion here is apparently once again about the forum definition of NTR (which has nearly nothing to do with the real definition). And according to the forums definition, a scene is NTR when a LI has sex with someone other than the MC + the MC feels jealous about it. And that is the crux of the matter: it's about the MC's feelings, not the player's.

First of all, there are only extremely few scenes in the game where there is only the option that a LI ever has sex with someone else. The game was originally planned completely differently, but under pressure from most of the patreons it developed in this way. And in the scenes that exist today where a LI has sex with someone else, the MC is not jealous. The inner monologues you mentioned prove it, as do countless dialogues between F/D. And with that, according to the forum definition, the topic of NTR is off the table.
I must have miss the beginning of the conversation. I wasn't aware that the crux of the problem was NTR. My comment was just a general opinion of how the situations are handled in the game. There are so many different stances on NTR that it's always a losing battle. It's one of the topics around here I stay away from because it usually just turns into a clusterfuck of insults and finger pointing.
 

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I never thought the MC was a very developed character. He has opinions of his own sure, but not in a sexual sense. Unless you count being perfectly fine with everything D is. Aside from the him asking if she really wants it he just goes along with whatever happens. Even when the player has a chance to stop a situation you will usually get a few lines of inner monologue from D saying how she guesses he want into it as much as she was.

You also can't completely disregard a players personal opinions of the events. This isn't a KN where you are just along for the ride, even though it feels like that at times. The players are always going to have personal preferences and being able to choose them is kind of the whole point. Expecting every player to just go with it is an unrealistic expectation. In a sense the MC and D are a blank slate in sexual situations. You can be for or against something, I just don't think it's executed particularly well.
I must have miss the beginning of the conversation. I wasn't aware that the crux of the problem was NTR. My comment was just a general opinion of how the situations are handled in the game. There are so many different stances on NTR that it's always a losing battle. It's one of the topics around here I stay away from because it usually just turns into a clusterfuck of insults and finger pointing.
You missed the end of the conversation too when I said: " The reader feeling jealous is not NTR." Also, I have no issue with people sharing their opinions, but it is when they try to pass their opinions off as fact when the facts say the opposite that things get messy. He was saying, in his opinion, there is NTR because the player can feel jealous about sharing D. That is just plain wrong as NTR is when the character feels jealous. And since the MC doesn't feel jealous, his opinion is not fact, and is just an opinion. There is no NTR in this game, and that is the fact.
 

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You missed the end of the conversation too when I said: " The reader feeling jealous is not NTR." Also, I have no issue with people sharing their opinions, but it is when they try to pass their opinions off as fact when the facts say the opposite that things get messy. He was saying, in his opinion, there is NTR because the player can feel jealous about sharing D. That is just plain wrong as NTR is when the character feels jealous. And since the MC doesn't feel jealous, his opinion is not fact, and is just an opinion. There is no NTR in this game, and that is the fact.
Yeah, no one is jealous of anyone in this game. Except maybe D when it comes to the MC showing interest in Elena a few times. But that's just general jealousy that has nothing to do with with it. There are also a few lines of dialogue of the characters wondering if they should be worried about the attractions. But worry and concern aren't jealousy.
 

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That is just plain wrong as NTR is when the character feels jealous.
Correction: it is according to the definition of this forum.

In reality, in the Far East mangas, where it actually comes from, it is understood as (N)e (T)o (R)are and (N)e (T)o (R)i, sometimes also netorase (the last one we know as cuckold). That's actually where the letters come from. In the forum definition, these letters make no sense. Classically, however, the first two things are understood by it. Both are just culpit-victims perspective of the same thing. And also clearly defined. Anyone interested can google that.

And between these definitions and how it is defined here in the forum, there are really worlds. And when I then also read every day what the haters in particular also interpret into it, my toenails finally roll up. Meanwhile this tag has been so watered down that it actually doesn't make any sense anymore.
 
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