DigDug69

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Hello, I recently stumbled over this and downloaded all 4 chapters to date. Also picked up the various walkthrough mods and PDF ones to see where my choices can lead me. My question is, I am unable to locate the PDF for chapter 3 V29.1 release? I did obtain a v26 release but that is a few versions behind.
So can anyone assist here thankyou.

Cheers
The PDF walkthroughs can be inaccurate with games like these.
The devs sometimes go back and redo some events and the walkthrough creators do not always update them.

THE MODS SHOULD BE FINE.
 

Segnbora

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There's a version of Game X in which the MC is not related to any of the NPCs. There may also be a version of Game X in which the MC is related to some of the NPCs.

One game contains incest. The other doesn't. t's lunacy to pretend that those two games are identical.

There's a version of game Y in which the MC's NPC has sex with someone else and the MC's upset.

There's another version of game Y in which the MC's NPC isn't a love interest, yet still has sex with someone else. A player asserting that that's netorare is like a player insisting an NPC is having anal sex when the renders clearly show that she isn't. It's an internal fantasy that isn't reflected in reallity.

It's equally lunatic to claim that both of those games feature netorare. One does. the other doesn't.

The player's feelings don't matter. The only thing that matters is what's in the script.
 

Legend598

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Sorry if this is an odd question but I was sure there was a section in one of the chapters where D gets a job with a creepy boss who takes her away for a weekend and if F doesn't step in and get a room with her, the boss ends up being a creep all day and then groping her in their shared room while she's asleep?

This was a long time ago but it just came to mind and I was sure it was this game but I've read all walkthroughs and looked through the comments here but don't see any trace?

Do I have the wrong game? Was it removed? Or is it here and I've just overlooked it?
 

oaiki

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Sorry if this is an odd question but I was sure there was a section in one of the chapters where D gets a job with a creepy boss who takes her away for a weekend and if F doesn't step in and get a room with her, the boss ends up being a creep all day and then groping her in their shared room while she's asleep?

This was a long time ago but it just came to mind and I was sure it was this game but I've read all walkthroughs and looked through the comments here but don't see any trace?

Do I have the wrong game? Was it removed? Or is it here and I've just overlooked it?
yes, that is not this game; what you are thinking of is another one, with soft and hard versions, but is not active on here ... it would be bad form for me to name the games here though
 

Legend598

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yes, that is not this game; what you are thinking of is another one, with soft and hard versions, but is not active on here ... it would be bad form for me to name the games here though
Oh I see! That is a pain. I don't post either so I cant even do conversation!
 

Yngling

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The player's feelings don't matter.
You can also argue that the player's feelings are the only thing that matters.

I think Kierkegaard said something among those lines, but I can't find the quote, so he may or not have said it.

But after all, the only reason for playing the game is enjoyment. We are not trying to send a space ship to Mars, or any other serious pursuit, we are simply trying to cum.

Anyway. I suppose it depends on the perspective. In any case it doesn't matter.

The game caters to both audiences, those who want to see it, can easily find it. And those who don't want it, can easily avoid it. Both paths are canon, so there is no problem.
 
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DigDug69

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The feelings of an individual player during their game play, does not matter to anyone else.
People whining about how they do not like the other possible routes in a game need to grow up.
No one else wants to hear their whining.

As Segnbora said: "The player's feelings don't matter. The only thing that matters is what's in the script."

And yes, I have had games that I liked take a path that I did not like.

I remember one game that I really liked, it had two very good female characters and like many other people, I liked both.
The games creator put both of their lives in jeopardy, and you could only save one of them. The other was going to die.
I thought that that was bullshit, and could even see a way that both could be saved, but that was not an option.
I made "ONE" comment on it and stopped playing the game.
I did not drone on and on about it, ad nauseum.
When sharing was announced as an option for DMD I was not happy about it, but the creators promised that it would be optional, so I kept playing. Because optional means I never have to see it.
 
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girlfairdev

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And yes, I have had games that I liked take a path that I did not like.
I made "ONE" comment on it and stopped playing the game.
IMO, the best way to go. That's what I do. No sense in belaboring it with people who don't care. Plenty of other places to go.
 

TD24

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This is a discussion that goes on in literature all the time, so I don't think it's suddenly going to be resolved here.

For a literary example, Dumbledore's sexuality. Purely from the text there is insufficient evidence to make any judgement, but 'word of God'/interpretation says he's gay. Personally, I think it's a bit pandering, like when Disney has 'gay' characters established from individual throw away lines that they can then edit out for releases in countries that shall not be named.

But to give a non-literary example it's like the difference between the "letter" and "spirit" of a law.

The letter usually has fewer interpretations than the spirit.

As far as content tags go, then yes the letter is for the better and people should find out what a tag means in the context of this site. Can't really blame other people for them misunderstanding a tag that is or isn't there.

But ultimately how a person reacts or 'feels' towards a story is personal, for that is the nature of art.

Just don't expect everyone to share your feelings and don't be a dick about them.
 

Chilledout1

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Nice definitions but I think it's not that black and white.

I think that often, getting a third person into a relationship changes the relationship dynamics in a way that can be difficult to predict.

You see that in the Dee - Martin relationship as well. It started out as friendship between F and Martin, IIRC they did a threesome with some random girl before, a long time ago. Initially Martin was just a fitness trainer to D, but (depending on the route the player chose) some feelings already started to develop. The first F-D-Martin threesome was mostly F and Martin reliving their college days or something. Just fun experimentation, no strings attached. However in the last update(s), it shows Dee developing real feelings for Martin, which may well turn into "real" NTR.

In my opinion, it's a direction that F, both in his role as father and in his role as lover, should not be happy about. As a father, he has to witness Martin degrading Dee. As a lover, Dee seems to be falling for Martin and perhaps replacing F as the next new toy.

Finally, when it comes to the ultimate corruption, it may well end up with Dee getting gangraped for money by Martin's friends...

That's why I am much more comfortable with the Dee / Elena + Jennifer or Georgina routes. The Martin route is just a train wreck in motion.
Think D getting gangbanged is the only thing she maybe hasn't done up to now, would she be up for it lol.
 
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Ideas for a next update:
-Elena fucked by protagonist in a public bar;
-Daughter gangbanged by protagonist & friends;
-protagonist cuckold (daughter fucked in front of his face by a unknow)
-Daugher work at a porn production company (porn video making)
-protagonist travel with Elena in a desolated island
-Daughter knows the old grandpa and fuck him
 

Chilledout1

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When Martin finally gets D alone to fuck her how he really wants to, what would D do if martin had said he did want to impregnate her when she asked him. After all he couldn't believe she was letting him fuck her bareback and she asked him to cum in her a couple of times.
 

Uthuriel

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Ideas for a next update:
-Elena fucked by protagonist in a public bar;
-Daughter gangbanged by protagonist & friends;
-protagonist cuckold (daughter fucked in front of his face by a unknow)
-Daugher work at a porn production company (porn video making)
-protagonist travel with Elena in a desolated island
-Daughter knows the old grandpa and fuck him
None of those will happen....
 

Chilledout1

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D has 2 petals left after her DP, we've seen her do more and more sexually as she gets to the end of them. Question is what is she going to have to do to scratch those last 2 off, I think now martin has gone there won't be any more male involvement in them going only prob girl on girl stuff. With only 1 or 2 more updates left maybe spring a surprise but not likely. She is now tho a big cock loving sex machine who can't get enough and has taken away the lead from F. Will there be a following on from F letting D screw martin in another room without him there say if she asks again.
 

Priappus

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You realize the game is almost done right? Maybe one or two updates left?
There won't be anything grandiose anymore. Best you can hope are some "what ifs".
Uthuriel
Do you know how I want this game to end? the perverted father(abusing his daughter) in prison,and I want all the imprisoned criminals to kick his ass. :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
That is justice.
 
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Uthuriel

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Do you know how I want this game to end? the perverted father(abusing his daughter) in prison,and I want all the imprisoned criminals to kick his ass. :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
That is justice.
I mean great?
Why are you telling me this?
Won't happen but you could make a mod to fulfil your wish...
 
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