normal - people realize more and more that DMD is gonna end and there is not much time anymore to raise fights XDyea but even more now.
No he's right. Because the ones that voted for the 100% avoidable option is the vanilla crowd trying to fair to the non vanilla crowd. It's not that they don't care it's because as long as they can avoid it they don't care if it's there. Other words you can have it as long as i don't have to see it.you’re wrong:
Take a look on the pool, the majority dont care. They are Not in a vanilla or ntr path. They just want contents.
and calm down mate, i’m clearly ok with the Team plans, i cant wait for the Dmd futur.
I never asked for a change. Everyone will have What they want.
Don't care much about Rachel, and we can have Martin without NTR, even if I don't mind either choice. As for the dog, I'm curious to see, mostly how they're gonna write it. Maybe the dog scene should happen at the end of the most depraved gangbang ever, some LEGAL PORNO style one, with DAP and piss drinking, then after all this what is sex with a dog to finish it ? Because if it's just a single scene with the dog, I have no idea how it could be made interesting. But I guess since it was talked about for years, Dots must have his idea on the matter.For the "What If" scenes.
- A proper 4-some between D/F and Graham/Olivia. There is no valid excuse to not have had this scene in the main game, there were plenty of chances until Graham randomly decided he wasn't attracted to D.
- A scene involving a dog. MrDots has teased this enough and should finally deliver (remember the early Ch4 post about a "pet" route?).
- An "NTR-ish" scene between Martin and D. The writing will be super cringe, I'm sure. But Martin fans will be happy.
- 3-some between D/F and Rachel. Rachel was a very underused character in the main game.
- 3-some between F, Rachel and Georgina. The only 2 MILF's in the game need a scene together.
- Alternative scenes of the modeling show orgy D didn't partake in.
...because those people are still complaining the main game didn't include enough of their fetish. Let it go and enjoy the what ifs.This is so funny, hahaha. So, in your opinion, being "vanilla" means you are loyal to only one dick. You only wish to see one dick all game You really like that one dick, I gather. So, people liking dp, or gangbanbg in porn are... gay? Your logic is amazing. Or is it that you hate dicks? That would either mean, you like lesbian content (so... gay), or you are a homophobe? Is hard to follow your logic, tbh.
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Regarding the votes:
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We have 114 (clear NTR) + 651 (OK with NTR), so 765 OK, with NTR (if avoidable). Only 262 against it... I guess in this forum we see these being the most aggressive, ignoring the 70%
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In this poll, is the same. People being OK with it 229+576+123+245, so a big majority, and only 273 saying absolutely not.
Is OK if Mr Dots decided to NOT have this in the main game, but at least he gave the majority the "WHAT IF". So why the hell people who already had the main game with their wish fulfilled are still bombarding and trashing the others? Is very hard to understand why the hate against gamers who wishes to see Dee in different scenes, already gone to the dark side, corrupted and having fun with - yes, I will say it - more dicks.
I highly doubt the "What If" scenes will be that extreme. I'm expecting them to be similar to Melody's, with the bonus of a couple of them (Graham/Olivia etc.) fitting perfectly fine into the main game.Don't care much about Rachel, and we can have Martin without NTR, even if I don't mind either choice. As for the dog, I'm curious to see, mostly how they're gonna write it. Maybe the dog scene should happen at the end of the most depraved gangbang ever, some LEGAL PORNO style one, with DAP and piss drinking, then after all this what is sex with a dog to finish it ? Because if it's just a single scene with the dog, I have no idea how it could be made interesting. But I guess since it was talked about for years, Dots must have his idea on the matter.
not in maingame, extras maybe (and if all wanted extras/what ifs would be added then it could be as big as all 4 chapters together).So no happy family ending with Rachel and D?
Even thou that have being discussed many times before in this thread you don't get the point.. The thing is that the people that don't like NTR or Sharing they don't settle for that type of content to just be avoidable , they want to be absent all together.. They get frustrated just in the idea that such a path exist even if it is 100% avoidable.. On the contrary the "Sharing" players are totally fine for both paths to exist.. Also about the poll , Sharing/NTR is 1/5 and No NTR at all is 2/5 if we do the math correctly.. But keep in mind that the vast majority of the "i don't have problem if avoidable" is actually "Sharing" players.don't twist the polls like you want.
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that means: out of round about 1000 votes, only 1/5 voted 100% pro NTR. The rest voted "NO" or "if avoidable". So 3/5 don't care about ntr. It even shows that double the amount of the "100%-NTR-lovers" (114) actually refuse NTR at all (262).
speaking of bestiality:
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in total round about 1400 votes:
Only 229 of them want unavoidable bestiality inhardest form, 123 in minor form if unavoidable.
The rest is only ok with it if it's avoidable (so these are not bestilaity lovers, but more likely "tolerant vanillars".
Even 273 are completely against bestiality at all.
So even if you count minor and hardcore together, you only get 350 positive "need to see"-votes out of 1400.
So it's not like you said - it's more like the vast majority either doesn't care, or even dislike. And as long as there are more "dislikes" than "demands", we will not change ANYTHING. We don't screw away more people than we MIGHT gain.
Talking in general now and NOT meaning "you" as in Zehyr in person, more like "YOU" as in "you F95 users":
Nearly 100% of all feedback on patreon and subscribestar (private discussions with Dots and fans inclussive) tell a clear story.
And even some over here might not like to read this, but the only complaints and demands how things have to be or should better be, are over here on F95 - and most likely NONE of them are actually supporters. There might be a very few exeptions though, but we doubt.
If you are supporters, then why don't you message MrDots directly on patreon or subscribestar? Tell him directly what you think. He isn't over here at all to listen.
I tell you why: because you DON'T EVEN SUPPORT HIM, yet you demand things have to go your way
Melody was clearly 100% vanilla from the start. DmD was more spicy. Also, the dog thing is a level of hardcore above DAP and piss drinking. So maybe, maybe not, we'll see.I highly doubt the "What If" scenes will be that extreme. I'm expecting them to be similar to Melody's, with the bonus of a couple of them (Graham/Olivia etc.) fitting perfectly fine into the main game.
Thank you for replying and letting us know. Honestly would love a ntr scene in the fantasy extra or at least a few sharing scenes might be nice to see it from Martin perspective. But I understand if not either way looking forward to it. Hopefully there is a few at least since the other game and new one won’t have any ntr let alone sharing as far as I know.i know that - that's why we don't do polls for decisions at all. These polls were made long time ago to get a general feedback of our discord users.
For really game related decisions, we rather talk and listen to those who contact us via patreon or subscribestar, as these are the people we really care about (for obvious reason). And if you read the quoted post carefully, i even hinted that over there.
MrDots got quite a lot of feedback in private messages. SOME of them are even people who ask if there could be NTR or other stuff. But the BIG majority doesn't want NTR. OK - they say that they are fine with it, as long as it's avoidable, but still they don't play any of that content at all. So why creating content for a few dozens, if you can make thousands more happy? That's life - that's business. Also MrDots himself is against NTR at all personally.
I even try to convince him to do 1-2 scenes for NTR in fantasy scene update, but he still hesitates and refuses. Personally i don't like NTR at all too, but i see the need of at least give SOME very few content, at least in fantasy update. So i will continue to try to change his mind - at least for now.
But if i see all the hate posts and demands and insults over here, i start asking myself for what i do that?
I guess even IF i manage to get MrDots to do 1-2 ntr scenes, they start complaining afterwards that there weren't enough.
I just get sick of all that - MrDots wants us to stay away from here at all - the heck, i slowly start to agree with him, so that those notorious ragers can do their thing on their own. Just feel sad for all the nice people over here who just want to get reliable informations and end being left alone.
additional info:
Your mentionned "Several thousand" are actually slightly more than 5000 (SS and Pat combined) - just to mention the number in case someone is interested.