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karan121

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I can't find myself believing that. Daughter's traits are naivety and innocence. That's all. She could be replaced with a sexy lampshade and it wouldn't make a difference and while we saw F and D go from complete strangers to fondle buddies. I didn't see anything that made that process believable, F just tricked D throughout the entire game and sometimes felt bad about things progressing too quickly.

Also, I'm not saying that we shouldn't have Chapter 1, I'm saying you could remove chapter 1 and be none the wiser. Why would the text blurb you proposed would be at the start of chapter 2 be any different to the blurb at the start of chapter 1? Because it's a sentence longer?

Ideally, this is where multiple redrafts would come in. But, a major folly of having patreon finance your game, is that you can't lose momentum. So, in order for chapter 2 to be worth anything, it needs to be done right the first time around.

Mr. Dots needs to constantly be asking how every new update is necessary to the end goal of Chapter 2. What do our characters accomplish, how do they change and is that accomplishment/change useful?
I don't think i agree with you that chapter 1 was not essential. You cant just go and meet your daughter after 10 years and say lets get naked and give each other a hand. Chapter 1 provides that base.And as for your that it needs t be perfect the first time around, well in my opinion everything can be perfect in the 1st try, if it was we wont be having bug fixes, patches or dlc's.Its my opinion though.
 

dartis

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@dartis You have some good points. I personally am happy with the way things are progressing, but I can see how chapter 1 could be viewed as superfluous. I prefer to see how things develop myself rather than just be told it as it helps me develop more of an attachment to the characters. But thats my viewpoint of things and its no more right or wrong than anyone else's.
I only have these criticisms, because I believe DMD can be better and want it to be better and don't believe that chucking more money at it is the solution.

I don't want people to agree with me or like it any less. But, from where I stand, the worst thing that can happen is that DMD becomes beyond reproach. Untouchable. No one can criticise it, how dare they. Because, when that happens, you get things like RWBY, FNAF and Undertale's toxic community.
 
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I'd recommend a new thread for Chapter 2. That'll make it easier to find chapter 2 specific information, rather than having to sort through one massive thread to find something. Also, any new posts about Chapter 1 can still be made in this thread, as the thread isn't going anywhere. This thread is 439 pages long at this point, so that's a lot to sort through already...

Also, thanks Mr. Pepe for the skunked version!
 

Wankdorf

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Nice update. Did not expect that much because that is what I have been told before already but the new sex scenes with Olivia and Elena were quite good.

For the lazy people I uploaded the save games before the scenes. Tbf though, replaying DmD is not that bad. Think about replaying Big Brother for example...

4-5-LT = Olivia
4-6-LT = Elena
 

Gogotaro

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After so much time, 1 year i heard?

People supporting this game got a handjob.

GOOD JOB.

This will definitely increase the bar in the quality of porn games just like The Witcher 3 did in the mainstream gamming industry.
 

markmaso

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Nice update. Did not expect that much because that is what I have been told before already but the new sex scenes with Olivia and Elena were quite good.

For the lazy people I uploaded the save games before the scenes. Tbf though, replaying DmD is not that bad. Think about replaying Big Brother for example...

4-5-LT = Olivia
4-6-LT = Elena
hey buddy thanks a lot.i was on day 10 at the previous version so you saved.did you use walkthough for these.i did and friend points were much higher.sorry for nitpicking just dont wanna miss future scenes i havent seen
 

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hey buddy thanks a lot.i was on day 10 at the previous version so you saved.did you use walkthough for these.i did and friend points were much higher.sorry for nitpicking just dont wanna miss future scenes i havent seen
- Reworked the whole FP/LP system. Now it’s harder to get points. Thats from the changelog so it's likely that.
 
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Wankdorf

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hey buddy thanks a lot.i was on day 10 at the previous version so you saved.did you use walkthough for these.i did and friend points were much higher.sorry for nitpicking just dont wanna miss future scenes i havent seen
No, I played without walkthrough. But I doubt that you can get much more FP/LP. I most probably did not play perfect though because I rushed through yesterday since it was so late in Europe when the new version was ready for dl.
 

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After so much time, 1 year i heard?

People supporting this game got a handjob.

GOOD JOB.

This will definitely increase the bar in the quality of porn games just like The Witcher 3 did in the mainstream gamming industry.
The ones who are supporting this game and many others are not doing it for porn but to help the developers work on the games.
I support games because I want to help the developers so they can spend more time on there games and not for the porn they make.
This type of games in this amount is very hard to find anywhere else and the support we give them keep them going on making great games to play.

So you may want to go support a game just to support that game in the making and not just to get your jollies off.
 
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@dartis I disagree, i feel that chapter 1 was essential to the ongoing story. The personality of each character is established, we see how they interact with each other, their motivations, how exactly F and D went from not having seen each other for 10 years to kissing, fondling and masturbating each other.

Would you really be satisfied if at the start of chapter 2 there was just a blurb saying "you are <name> your relationship with your wife ended badly and she left the country, taking your daughter with her. After no contact for 10 years your daughter showed up at your door. Over the course of 2 weeks you went from being her father to being her lover. Now your ex has taken her away again, how will you get her back?"

Simply reading a background isn't the same as experiencing it. We've now seen HOW the relationship developed, we're invested in the characters.
Very invested in my case...
 
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Is there cheats in this??
Yes there is but you may miss content by using them.
Now if you need just a few points to do the cupid date and win it then that is ok to do.
This is an online cheat for a lot of games but be careful on what you change and by how much, again you can miss content if you raise them by cheating.
 
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markmaso

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- Reworked the whole FP/LP system. Now it’s harder to get points. Thats from the changelog so it's likely that.
No, I played without walkthrough. But I doubt that you can get much more FP/LP. I most probably did not play perfect though because I rushed through yesterday since it was so late in Europe when the new version was ready for dl.
thanks guys got it.i found the console commads for friend points anyway in case i ever need it
 

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Nice update. Did not expect that much because that is what I have been told before already but the new sex scenes with Olivia and Elena were quite good.

For the lazy people I uploaded the save games before the scenes. Tbf though, replaying DmD is not that bad. Think about replaying Big Brother for example...

4-5-LT = Olivia
4-6-LT = Elena
oh no, please no, replay BB NOOOO!, i'm going to replay DmD right now.
 
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I only have these criticisms, because I believe DMD can be better and want it to be better and don't believe that chucking more money at it is the solution.

I don't want people to agree with me or like it any less. But, from where I stand, the worst thing that can happen is that DMD becomes beyond reproach. Untouchable. No one can criticise it, how dare they. Because, when that happens, you get things like RWBY, FNAF and Undertale's toxic community.
I also do not agree that chapter 1 was not necessary.... is any chapter 1 necessary? hmmm let's look at Star Wars. Episode 4, Episode 5. Could you start into episode 4 without knowing the background? heck yes... same with episode 5. in 1977 Star Wars hit the big screen, no one knew of the Force, the Jedi, the Sith or anything... did it stop people from writing books? nope look to alan dean foster's Splinter of a Mind's Eye. and all the stuff the fans started writing and speculating. The same happens here. what we saw was the evolution of someone who found they'd been lied to, and starting to rebel against that authority figure and do things and grow in terms of knowledge and action.

Can we do away with chapter 1 and not be any the wiser? Yes, should we? no. Dots and the devs had the idea of 3 chapters fairly early on and they have a timeline set out for things and are doing well to stick to it. I think we can only wait to see what chapter 2 shapes up to be. I'm not saying you're wrong in being concerned, I'm just saying you have asked questions that have been answered many times over in these 439+ (maybe 440 when i'm done typing) pages. discourse is always a good thing I just wish people would stop the idea of milking it. now that georgina and MC are active there will be more sex i am sure and what will elena and D do back home as they find their way back to the MC. I agree with you that Elena did grow but the daughter did too. she went from someone that is naive and not even though much of sex to someone that is starting to appreciate sex and enjoy it.
 

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I also do not agree that chapter 1 was not necessary.... is any chapter 1 necessary? hmmm let's look at Star Wars. Episode 4, Episode 5. Could you start into episode 4 without knowing the background? heck yes... same with episode 5. in 1977 Star Wars hit the big screen, no one knew of the Force, the Jedi, the Sith or anything... did it stop people from writing books? nope look to alan dean foster's Splinter of a Mind's Eye. and all the stuff the fans started writing and speculating. The same happens here. what we saw was the evolution of someone who found they'd been lied to, and starting to rebel against that authority figure and do things and grow in terms of knowledge and action.

Can we do away with chapter 1 and not be any the wiser? Yes, should we? no. Dots and the devs had the idea of 3 chapters fairly early on and they have a timeline set out for things and are doing well to stick to it. I think we can only wait to see what chapter 2 shapes up to be. I'm not saying you're wrong in being concerned, I'm just saying you have asked questions that have been answered many times over in these 439+ (maybe 440 when i'm done typing) pages. discourse is always a good thing I just wish people would stop the idea of milking it. now that georgina and MC are active there will be more sex i am sure and what will elena and D do back home as they find their way back to the MC. I agree with you that Elena did grow but the daughter did too. she went from someone that is naive and not even though much of sex to someone that is starting to appreciate sex and enjoy it.
Actually, I'd argue that episode four is very, very necessary. Luke wants change, is rewarded, pays for that reward and becomes a better person as he learns from the experience. The villains are, for the first time in the lore of the story, humbled. Plus, the force, jedi, sith, all that came from exposition. The bread and butter of any story worth telling.

Not unsurprisingly, this little porn game does not stand up to one of the movie greats that started a trilogy that revolutionised the sci-fi genre. I do understand that you're tired of criticism for a game you like, but that game is now finished. A complete whole package. Of course I'm going to discuss how I felt about it, this is the dating my daughter discussion thread.
 
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