VN - Ren'Py - Completed - Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

Good story, good characters for the most part, awesome scenes, specially after chapter 2 where I got really invested with the story.

I didn't really like the game at first, didn't like the daughter and a few characters would really piss me off sometimes, the super slow start of the chapter 1 also didn't help, but it grew on me quite a lot.

There's a lot of character development throughout the chapters and through each chapter there's noticeable improvements and now I think this is the best I've played so far, it became my favorite and I'm patiently waiting for chapter 4.

The game is really well written and it take its time to progress with the scenes which I like unlike other games where they jump directly into sex from day 1. which is more realistic I think. In my opinion , I didn't like the daughter but other characters like elaine and Jennifer made it more fun for me to play till the end.

Review for 0.31

This game struck me has average, honestly. It's really not a bad game, but rather suffer from a few, but major underlying issues that can't really be solved simply due to it's rigid design. Also, the Father/Daughter thing isn't really my style. I do love incest games, but i prefer by a huge margin to be the brother/son in this kind of story. But i won't deprecate the game for a personal taste.

First, the good.

It has a good graphical presentation. The quality of the pictures, sets and characters are all pretty good, but the position of the shots and the use of POV can limit the kind of shot position you can use. So on the long run the graphical presentation kind of feel repetitive and bland.

Great characters and writing, dialogue is nice and you get a long, but good build-up and pacing that ultimately leads to the sexy scenes with Dee, with a few side characters as well that you can choose. However, the quality of the dialogue and story kind of goes down by chapter 3.

Excellent overall presentation for the UI and menus, looks cool, is functional and simple to read.

There is quite a few lewd scenes, even tho there is sometimes quite a bit of space between them, but i think it's more due to the long pacing more than anything else.

Now, the bad.

The main major flaw of the game is the choice/relationship points system. It uses what i call the "Typical Lewd VN choice mechanic system".

It goes something like this: You are presented with many choices throughout the game, but you really kind of have to pick the right one to progress the story or access the lewd scenes, otherwise, you get a game over or you get into a point of no-return where you can keep progressing the story, but won't be able to engage in some activities due to you lacking the proper number of points.

This kind of system is a pet peeve of mine because it falsely presents a choice system that cannot effectively control the kind of scenes or approach to the characters AND it removes any incentive to make the choices yourself, since you have to pick the right choices anyway.

This creates a second problem where the use of a walkthrough is ***necessary*** in order to progress the game as intended. So the game might as well be a kinetic novel and spare us the chore of having to read back and forth and/or click the options you have to choose anyway.

The third major problem is the way the content is delivered. The game uses what i would call "Direct Rendering Composition" type of render. Simply put, all of the renders are made directly by hand, one by one and then rendered. So you have to compose the scene (Props, lights, background, etc...) then place the characters, pose them, set up your camera and then make the render. Then make the changes and correction (The first render very rarely give the result you want, especially when you use Daz since it's not realtime.)

All of this involves many repetitive steps to be made and is a "high-quality", but inefficient method of delivering your graphical content.

It can take a few hours just to make a single render. Not a big deal when you have a few to do, but when you have thousands to make like in this game, this result in elongated time between updates and less content per update.

The end result: This game is almost 5 years old at the time of this review, but only managed to produce about 8-10 hours of content (depend a lot on reading speed, since the main filler is dialogue)

But all of those major flaws cannot be changed without remaking pretty much the entire game. In fact, i'm quite certain MrDots Games already know about this, but he is stuck with these methods because otherwise it would mean to start back from scratch.

So in short: It's a would-be great game that is permanently crippled by the game mechanics and design choices made very early in it's development. Hence, the average review.

these are a lot of fun, excellent work. i love the characters and the slow build with the daughter, and the fact that its not all 'teasing and almosts' like in other games. i wouldnt mind seeing a bit of reall life porn clips for some of the important sex scenes with the daughter, im currently only on the second chapter and cant wait to see whats coming

I tried to play this, but just had to give up around 2/3rds into Chapter 1. The daughter is just so utterly vapid, passive and prudish that she's right at the bottom of my "porn game LIs ranked list". Sure, she looks hot, but character matters. The massive hypocrasy of the dad fondling his daughters tits, french kissing her and shortly after preaching about how the other guys are just sleazy folks just wanting sex isn't particularly endearing to me, either.

Overall, the mood/theme seems to be all over the place. At times, it seems to be a corruption story, and then a pure romance story. Dad and daughter both having a complete meltdown over the idea to go nude on a nude beach (in order to meet daughter's favourite star ever) seems prudish to me according to RL criteria. In a porn game after they've french kissed and he's been all over her tits, it just don't make any sense to me at all.

Ch. 1-4 v0.31
A polarizing game for sure but to me the highs outweigh the lows and is an absolute most play if you are into father daughter incest. Spoilers below.

Chapters 1-2
The first two chapters are slow burn corruption between the father and daughter, with a couple side interests the dad can pursue. Game design wise it is below average, you either pick the right choice and build up love points or pick the wrong choice and get a game over. For the side characters it is either pursue the relationship and see the content, or don't and forgo. In Chapter 2 you start building up certain sex stats in the daughter that could have lead somewhere interesting, but they are abandoned in Chapter 3. Overall there is a lack of meaningful choice throughout this game, but especially early on.

All that being said, the story is so god damn good. The slow burn corruption from reserved virgin to daddy's sex toy is crazy hot, but I also cared about the build up of their romantic relationship. The renders are plentiful, detailed, and gorgeous. If father daughter is your thing, there are few better games then the first two chapters.

Chapters 3-4
This is where the sharing begins and people start to get upset, however all sharing content is optional, and the majority of it is MFF threesomes with the dad, the daughter, and a female love interest. Again choosing not to do the MFF paths is basically just forgoing content, which is an unfortunate game design, especially for those that want an exclusive father daughter romance. However if you are into the MFF routes there is tons of super sexy and well made content, especially with Georgina.

The MMF options are where people really get pissed, but I don't think it is totally justified. First this type of sharing felt like a natural outgrowth of the story, and has been teased since the first chapter. More importantly, it is 100% OPTIONAL. The daughter doesn't have to fuck other dudes if you don't want to, while it may be too early to tell, forgoing the MMF routes doesn't seem like you will be missing out on a big chunk of content like forging the MFF routes.

Nonetheless, the MMF routes are poorly done. As someone that was excited for the sharing options and specifically Victor, I was incredibly let down by the stupid "I love both equally dynamic" they went with. Having built up a deep and powerful connection through hours of gameplay between the father and the daughter, having her form an equal connection with another guy in a fraction of that time was just stupid. The Ryan route is a little more tolerable, but overall the MMF sharing could have been done much better as a natural outgrowth of her corruption rather than the out of the blue secondary romance that it currently is. Hopefully chapter 4 can make up for the missed opportunities in this department.

Overall
Despite all the negative this is still a great game and is one of the most popular games on the site for good reason. There are tons and tons of high quality renders and hot scenes. While inconsistent at times, the story is still very solid overall, and the mistakes of chapter 3 can still be corrected.

Ok, so I've been meaning to review this game for a while, and am just now getting around to it. As many other reviewers have said, this was the first VN I had played and loved it from the start. Yeah, a little slow burn, but it was also the VN where I discovered interest in the incest genre. But thats pretty much the only positives I can say about it.

Like I said, the first chapter hooked me, and the second was pretty good as well. I enjoyed the slow burn, to a point, and it at least had more of a story than some other VNs on the site. The slow corruption was also interesting, but it did seem that it took way too long to get to a simple BJ, but I kept playing.

The story was going great until the ex got involved again, and at that point it took a screaming nose dive. Not only was D up for grabs to any guy who showed even minor interest, but all of the side characters just up and disappeared. I was really looking forward to another threesome with Elena and possibly including the other (can't remember her name atm), or even a recurring relationship with either/both. It was at this point that I had lost almost all interest, being stuck with the main LI and nothing else.

I continued playing for a little while longer, but quit before the end of ch. 3. The cringe factor of the story had reached higher than I was willing to admit at the time, and choices were becoming limited to say the least. It's really sad because DMD had such promise up till the third chapter, and whatever happened (possibly Mr. Dots' latest title got in the way) doomed DMD to an early grave. I was really looking forward to the conclusion, but imho, I don't see a reason to waste time finishing ch. 3 when there are better stories out there.

I'm sorry to only give it one star, since the first and second chapters were at minimum 4.5 to 5, but with the disappointing turn chapter 3 took it doesn't justify anything over 1.5 stars.

Edit: Now I'm just being a dick cause I can and I'm human. Welcome to 2024, bitches!!

TLDR If you enjoy sharing D with every male character in the 2nd, 3rd, and probably 4th chapter (gave up somewhere between 2nd and 3rd), this is for you. If you enjoy a slow burn AVN that turns from a 'making a new life with my busty daughter' into 'how much fictional, non-existant, money can I make off of my now hooker daughter while I watch like a simp?' this is definitely for you. 'Oh, I can't fuck your friends anymore because you want to make sure im as soft as mashed potatoes while you fuck everything but me?' Jesus fuck, thanks for ruining the game Mr. Dots... I will never get the time I wasted while I waited for you to revive this dumpster-fire of a game. great til the end of the first chapter, then *whoooommmmm-thpttt'...

While a good introduction to the world of incest VN's it is of its time back in the dark ages of 2018 and it shows. The models aren't that attractive now, the genitalia is of poor quality compared to more moden vn's and the the environments are tired.

The plot has gone stale since the corruption of chapter 1 of the daughter and the sexual conquest of her friends. Chapter 4 has the pregnancy retconed in favour of always pulling out and the actual sex is not very exciting especially given that there's no bringing the ex back into the corruption. She shows up and does not much before vanishing again. Meanwhile we also get this multiple sharing options with different other men which deprive from continuing the main story in favour of adding more renders.

After all the MC and D have done together why they have him gift her to other men is strange.

In short, the graphics are the game are tired and re-used and the whole game isn't as interesting as it once was.

This game is one of those that is highly rated but in all honesty fails to deliver, much like Man of the House.

The story at its core is the one thing that sort of sets itself apart from the other incest themed games on the site. You're not a brother/step brother but a father and this creates a different dynamic. However, as the story progress and the game updates, you start to see that beyond that, there is nothing really special here at all. It's a very predictable story that has parts that you might think will be important, only to be retconned entirely. This alone is what really kills the game.

The renders and models are just fine. Nothing too special. Your daughter is easily one of the most iconic ones in the entire game, as she's everyone's sister in other games at one point or another.

Gameplay, its a straight up visual novel. No grinding or anything. But like I said earlier, not all the choices you make will be relevant as it progresses.

Honestly, just pass on it unless you want the renders. And in that case, use UnRen to extract them.

What used to be a fantastic game with plenty of choices that mattered (my favourite on f95 for a time), turned out into a boring, repeatable adventure with amount of choices (the ones that actually matter) that you can count on your fingers.

I guess the devs are trying to rush to the end ASAP so they can start a new project or something, making tons of unpopular decisions on the way..

Such a pitty..

to be honest, I'm tempted to stop playing this game and just keep the great memories of it from when it used to be fantastic..

This was one of the first games i found here and due to the nostalgia factor I played it way longer than I should have. I'll try to highlight some of the flaws in the game.

Chapters one and two were a easy 4/5 (with the nostalgia goggles).

Then a new "Writer" joined the team and started to implement his ideas of "equality" or how I call it "beta stuff".

The focus switched from Dee and the other possible Love interests to sharing Dee with whoever was ready and willing.

The facial expressions also seem to be recycled and reused frequently. It seems as if the developer is recycling between the same few expressions for all his characters.

Another weakpoint is the very mediocre writing. It often feels as if you reading from an encyclopedia or a university textbook. The writer has failed to properly 'excite' and engage the player into the game as he relies too heavily on a formal manner of speech.

These wikipedia levels of snooze fest writing were also a big reason why my enjoyment went further down the drain or who here did always wanna know how the mc learned to fly a hot-air balloon for 5 to 10 minutes before the actual story progresses?

So yeah it went downhill hard in chapter 3 to a 3 (goggles still on) since most of the sharing stuff was avoidable when there wasn't a "Bug".
When they retconned the pregnancy in chapter4 and made mc pull out every time he and Dee had sex that was the last straw for me.

And here we are now, nostalgia goggles off and a one star rating.

If you never played it then play chapters one and two, skip the rest and pretend they married and lived happy ever after or just skip it.

I thought the game was going pretty well until the moron daughter blurted out about their relationship (to her mother) and goes downhill from there. I'm having extreme doubts of finishing this game from that point.
The many mock one button choice pressings is absolutely annoying, please for the love of GOD stop the single choice box in if you don't have another choice to take.
Well, you know his daughter doesn't exactly have his or his ex wife's brains. So being a model is pretty much in her future, or porn star. What a dumb ass.
The rest of the game is passable like his daughter's friends, everybody else can get violently catapulted into the sun fror all I care. Seriously, make that an episode especially the other father/daughter couple to get killed in a befitting way.

So, I've been playing this game since I first made my account on here. Decided it's time to review.

The Good:

- The plot (as far as the idea of it) is good.
- I think the renders are solid for an older game. The facial expressions are overused though.
- The animations are solid and there are a lot of them.

The "Meh":

- Personally, I think there are too many characters. I'll get more into this below. Putting this here since some people really do like the "extra" characters.

The Bad:

- As I said above, I think the general idea of the plot is good. This game is probably the originator of the " long lost daughter" genre but I think it could've been done a lot better. The story is discombobulated and doesn't follow a logical timeline.
- Continuing from above, the game is 4 chapters as of now, but a lot of the plot-lines that technically started in CH1 are just now, literal years later, getting developed. The most notable of these is Martin, who way back in Ch1 we had the option to start the path with but he literally disappeared the entire Ch2 and most of Ch3. We also have others facing similar issue. That brings me to this....
- Too many characters. When you have characters getting sidelined for multiple updates, if not entire chapters, that means you have too many of them. Martin vanishing for most of the game, Olivia and Graham, even Elena and Jennifer ( D's two best pals) disappear for long stretches. Especially Jennifer. This also leads to illogical and wonky character development, they don't have enough screen time to be properly developed. We're years into the game and the situation with D's mom still isn't resolved. Things that should've already happened and were hinted long ago are just now getting started. Again, poor planning and development.

- Related to all that stuff, the writing ( not the plot or story, the actual writing itself) is poor. The MC constantly goes on these long inner monologues. The dialog is robotic and lack personality. A mark of good writing is saying what needs to be said in few words, this game doesn't have that. It over explains, like when you want to say something but you can't quite figure it out so you just keep on going and going until you finally figure out a long and overly wordy way to say what you want to say even though you could've just said something much easier and to the point.
- I personally, due to the way the characters act/talk, believe the writers don't or can't immerse themselves as the characters in the game. You can sometimes tell when the MC for example is talking in an unnatural way, because it's not the MC "talking" its one of the writers talking via the MC. It should be the opposite, the MC talking through the writers. I think this is the primary reason for what I said above, about the writing issues and monologues being robotic.
- Certain fetishes ( you know what I'm talking about) that have been teased since the start have been strung along to the point that we really have no clue if the game will include them or not. Another example of poor plot development.

TLDR: The game started solid, but steadily got worse as it progressed. Mostly due to poor writing and planning of the plot. I really want to give it a 4 simply due to it being one of the first games I played, but It's a 3.5 (above average) but you can't give .5 stars. I'll give it a 3.

One of the best games I've played to date. I was skeptical at first. It starts off very slow and the style is somewhat saccharine. Ultimately, though, its sweetheartedness proves sincere and doesn't get in the way of raunch. In fact, it makes it better. Though the story is meticulously paced, that is to its benefit, as this is a very character-driven game, each one having their own fully developed personality. The result is a game that is surprisingly easy to get emotionally invested in, with more women to get involved with than you'd think based on the title, and a refreshing take on the taboo corruption trope. A must play!

It's decent, although it's a little too linear. I like Elena a lot more than the daughter and would have preferred more of her. Even the interactions with some of the other girls would be better with some more choices.
The main story gets boring at points

The first 2 chapters were great 8/10 and all main sub npcs were part of the game,After that and if your a jennifer fan like me or prehaps your a fan of another main sub npc girl with the lowest parts of the game you know what I mean

After the first 2 chapters the d went from a virgin 18 years old to a pure cum bucket boobie sexdoll with same scenes of the MC and D over and over again taking the big one like a pro and horny for every npc she can shake her titties at lol.

I do agree the d should be the main focus of the game its about her and the MC,however shes the whole game period..While the rest of the main sub ncps gives a bj or quicky and gone from story leaving you to ask does my feelings as a fan towards them even matter?

I do enjoy the very wee jennifer content,tho I feel it was rushed just to make it look she was part of the game, even elena got more action and I feel bad for her too..For a long time I wished and hope better for the sub npc girls,but it will end wrong for non d fans such as myself

The focus of Mr Dots is solely on the d only and its his game I respect that, but I disagree with that being the case he chose..I do thank mr dots and Im greatful for the chance to play it free,but I also I have to be honest with myself as a fan and disappointment
And you can only take so much of the same and pray and wait for the chance that the girl your a fan of since chapter 1,gets better than this, just to be thrown in the back

Emma M

The game that codified a genre, with all the problems baked in, and has been passed by many others. It's... fine. When you first saw it four and a half years ago, it blew a circuit in people's minds. The renders were so good, the daughter so hot, the prospects soooo tantalizing. But in the intervening years, it's strengths have stagnated and the problems have calcified and become more prominent.

First, the models and scenes. At this point, I've seen these models and sets so many times, it's like seeing a silver Toyota Camry on the road. Like, I shouldn't burst out laughing every time I see that maple syrup object that looks like a black spider attacking a pancake. While that's not the fault of the OG game, it's100% a sign that it's time to move on.

Second, the renders and animations have been mentioned a great deal by others, but bear a moment. They're exactly stuck in 2018. In the text and static image era, they blew our brains out the back of our skulls. But today, they look kinda sad in the face of the daily release of Blender-quality animation games.

Third, the pace. Holy shit. Dust off every one of your sloth/glacier/molasses metaphors. And again, it was comparable to an earlier era's predominant Russian Grind. But compared to modern games where devs have figured out how to perfectly balance pacing a dozen girls such that you're into the dirty fap right away, it's painfully slow. Those games have long, slow progressing angel stories with a few quick bangs thrown in for balance and just work much much better.

Fourth, the look and maturity of the daughter and her friends. Her friends all look 12, and mostly they act like it. No human in the modern, internet world acts this naïve at 18+. No one. And I've dated a couple women who "matured" early. They were relentlessly hit on at that age, and subsequently matured emotionally, very quickly. Every time one of DMD's characters opens their mouth with a wide-eyed, "What's an orgasm?" question, I'm creeped the hell out.

I'll mention two other elements that don't bother me as much: Patreon milking and the plot. For Patreon, as a contractor myself, I have sympathies toward someone who is just getting paid, at whatever level, for the service he said he'd deliver. They put out an update every few months, haven't promised to do more and largely keeps delivering what his Patreon's ask for.

For the writing, it's serialized, which can always be messy (Dickens legendarily would drop sub-plots in his novels, published as monthly serials in magazines) and he's catering to his paid subscribers. It is what it is.

I started at a three star review, but as I wrote, dropped back to two. The game is good for a fap or two, but painfully behind the times, dragged forward solely as a paean for it's existing, paying fanbase.

Damn... I remember first seeing this game on /hgg so many years ago. Coming back to it now is like coming to your childhood playground. What you saw as a mighty castle is a run-down shed. That princess you were so enamored with? Is a scarecrow in a white sheet. And there are ntr cockroaches everywhere...

It's been said before yet I can't but have to repeat it. The game has a great start. It has a nice corruption story-line. Then you hit Chapter 3 and things start going to hell.

The good
Renders are fine. Used to be great but that was years ago and standards are different in 2021.
Some cute moments where you can forget the impending doom and just enjoy the game for what it is.

The bad
The animations are... rudimentary. And certainly not up to today's standard
NTR - it's avoidable but unlike other games you don't really get anything by avoiding it. Simply less scenes and content. You feel punished for not wanting NTR.
The pacing is incredibly slow. Ents would be telling you to get a move on. Glaciers will melt before you finish this game. And no matter what the author might think - he's no Shakespear and I'm not here to read his musings about familial relationships.
The way storylines are abandoned, recovered and sometimes outright forced is incredible. You wanted to corrupt the daughter? Haha - fuck you. You're in a loving relationship now. Like Pregnancy? We'll tease you - then retcon it so it never happened. You got Thanos snapping his fingers at the speed of a Formula1.
Finally the milking of supporters. Slow boring updates that add little. The stable mark of a Patreon-milking Dev. See you in 4 months. Get your credit card ready...

Overall I dropped the game at the start of Chapter 4. It was just tarnishing the good memories I had of it back in the days of /hgg degeneracy. Won't bother picking up Dev's next game. This is a train-wreck in slow-motion.

Oh how the mighty throw themselves to the ranks of the fallen with reckless abandon. The name should be changed to "Pimping your daughter" This game started out with so much potential(Decent story, slow but satisfying build to all the big events, sexual or otherwise, hot character models that were maybe occasionally too young looking which if it's your thing boom) but especially over updates 3-4(Particularly 3) it nosedived so quickly it's not even funny. You either have to start "sharing"(more accurately: whoring) your daughter so often that it becomes a routine or miss out on notable portions of the game. It seems like even a lot of the fans who were wholly against it initially started to request it more and more till the devs made it the major path for the game. Again it's a damn, damn shame because all-around before the aforementioned nosedive it had top-10 potential.

Early on this was a great corruption game, now it feels like a classic bait and switch. Bring them in for the corruption and then stick them with vanilla hoping the majority of donors don't notice or don't care.