VN - Ren'Py - Completed - Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

Way too long. A lot of predictable repetition. Too much fluff and stretched out pacing. Started out great. Mr. Dots has a lot of talent and I enjoy Sunshine Love, but this one burned me out before the end. It was a marathon.

If I was just rating chapter 3, it'd get one star, but the other chapters are decent so add a few.
This thing should have really ended after chapter 2. Add a nice little, happily ever after, and some nice lewd scenes then you are done. It really goes down hill from there.
The Good
Daughter is adorable, and the story of the courting, and manipulating, and grooming her to be a brainwashed sex slave is endearing. Renders are decent, but really showing their age. Animations are nothing to write home about, but not horrible. If you can get past the, sex offender level of creepy MC, and avoid the daughters friends, who look 12, the first 2 parts, are oddly satisfying in a very depraved way.
The Not so Good
Did I mention the friends look 12? They really do. I'm into small breasts, and petite girls, but this was next level. Maybe the size of their heads in relation to their bodies made them seem young? Not sure, but yikes.
Once the NTR and sharing became an option, the entire story takes a nosedive into fan service.
Even avoidable it makes no sense at all, to groom this girl for so long then just throw her to some other dudes. What a waste.
If you avoid it, you will see how disjointed and hollow the story becomes, until it's pretty much pointless to continue.
Should have ended at Chapter 2.
This is rough, cause I really enjoy this Devs other games. In fact, their first game is one of my all time favorites. Just sad it has come to this point in DmD. This one just needs to die, put it out of it's misery please.

Note: I don't believe a complex opinion can be properly represented by a number but I do understand some people are impatient so I don't use the star system normally, my ratings are as follows. 1 don't recommend, 3 unsure please read review, 5 recommend.

Alright so I need to make something clear right off the bat, I am into incest, as a fetish, that's it, just a fetish. I like the idea of doing it but imaging actually committing it with anyone in my family IRL grosses me out, I play the incest games to satisfy that fetish, So then you might be wondering why I gave this a 1 . . . 3.

Well the thing about this game is it's kinda too much, almost too real. For one you don't even fuck the daughter till the end of episode 2, in fact the sex scenes are few and far between until episode 3. So you quite literally spend like 10 hours seducing her and it's paced very slowly intentionally so that it feels more real, you go through long explanations and situations, and I'm gonna be 100% honest the way you manipulate and seduce her creeped me the fuck out, I know that sounds stupid, half the games on this site revolve around sexual manipulation and I enjoy them, I don't wanna name any because I don't wanna be a dick but you've played them you know what their like. This one just kinda did it too well for me by the time I got to the point where you finally fuck the daughter I had this uneasy feeling in my stomach, I really felt like I was doing something actually morally wrong. Again I know where I am I know that should be expected, but in other games the characters aren't as sympathetic and the way they fold to your manipulation so easily is often stupid, there's a reason most have some magic crystal that makes all the girls loose there inhibitions.

It feels weird to not recommend something because it's too well written I think I'll change it to 3 to make it fair because there are a lot of positives about this game. Man this is why I hate the star system *humpf*

The art is pretty good, I mean it's a standard 3D render but it works, Daughter isn't the only female in the game you can plow and obviously isn't the first, but the other girls have there own issues depending on the player lot of them are very loli-like and if you aren't into that well then it's gonna be a long haul for you bud, there are other girls in the game with more curvy figures but obviously the main attraction here is the titular daughter, which ya know, can't really blame the dev for that, he has a vision and he's sticking too it, hope he has sons ha ha.

It's pretty much a requirement to point out the writing in this is the toppest of top tiers obviously, In porn games anyway, we wouldn't be in this mess if the dev could have just been bad at that.

Look okay the thing is most people who are into incest are gonna enjoy the game, and I was even able to nut with it myself I just didn't like the aftertas... FEELING I got after the incest part, it's a bit better in chpt. 3 when it kinda becomes a fuck fest extravaganza but that gross feeling comes back every time I do the deed with the product of the seed, I dunno I kinda can't keep doing it.

I should also mention that all the sharing/NTR options are optional which is nice because if i spent 10 hours getting to the "fuck the daughter" point, only to watch some other dude fuck her 3 scenes later I would be fucking livid.

You may be quick to point out that "the daughter wants to do this", "she says constantly that she's an adult and she can make her own decisions", but it really didn't help me at all because I know why in the back of my head she's saying it, I know it's only there so it feels like a mutual decision but my higher brain can't seem to block out the fact that it isn't a mutual decision, Its virtually impossible to play this scenario out where you don't emotionally manipulate the daughter. But in similar games the way you do that is just comically baffling, if it isn't some magic BS, than the daughter wanted to do it from the start anyway. Here it's like steady long-form tactical manipulation that plays on her innocence and lack of experience, you don't remove inhibitions using magic, you tactically move the goal posts in her head using actual manipulation methods, this is why it takes 10 hours because any attempt to do this in real life would take months slowly convincing her it's perfectly okay, there's nothing wrong with love after all right? There is something wrong with love, when it's not mutual.

Look I'm not trying to grandstand as some holy saint, I nutted same as everyone else, but I can't deny how I felt when the post nut clarity set in, and that feeling is not why I play these kind of games so I feel it's only fair to tell others in a similar boat.

In short I'm sure the vast majority of people who like incest would love this game, but surprisingly for me it was too deep in the cut, if I am using that phrase correctly. I imagine I hold a pretty rare opinion in this sea of reviews but I'll stand my ground. . or . . er boat?, if the idea appeals to you go ahead and check it out and if you too feel uneasy like i did then I will have warned you and done my job. Otherwise move on and shoot for gayer pastures.

Playing through the Chapter 1 and gosh...daughter is such a dork I have a feeling she's from another age where internet, sexual education or talk didnt exist. 18 y.o. gal with a mind of a kid. Plus her out of nowhere insecurities, asking permission etc...not a fan of her at the very least. Other characters more fun tho.

One of the best VCs I've ever played.
5/7 would play again

I really liked the models and animations too, the story is a bit cheesy but if you like romance its quite cute.
I hope a part 4 is in the making

Man.. Worst game I have ever experienced in my whole H history life..
honestly this game is the reason I stopped playing any kind of the 3DCG!

good art but the story is too terrible,
just the fact you can get game over for fking her ass or NTR her friend or answering some stupid questions wrong...
THIS GAME IS JUST A BIG NOO ..

One of the best adult games out there. the strength is the pretty much laser focus on D&F's relationship. It's not always complex and sometimes stretches believability but the story is strong, engaging and heartfelt. The renders while not top notch are still crisp and the animations are very good and plentiful. The are a ton of sex scenes and they are almost all hot. A good sampling of kinks, if a bit tame, and you can expand D&F's sexual sphere with some of the other characters. These side characters were a mixed bag for me though, with some seeming to be a bit shoehorned in the game to try to cover as many bases as possible. It all comes back to D&F though and that is where the game really shines their relationship, story and sex are definitely worth your time. Without a doubt play this game.

to some extent this game was great,but the many, many repetitions in the same pattern began to make it a simple habit,when do you watch the first episode or episode 3 or 4 or five are exactly the same,the game started to get tired,It must be the only game we have seen the same people having sex together,after so many times sex becomes boring,we have to see new faces and sex with her daughter and with other persons,I do not mind being optional this route,as long as it exists.

We can say that the game is already an old school classic. Advances the plot from part to part. Yes, there are unfinished story arcs, maybe someone won't have enough of their favorite fetish, but that doesn't make it any worse. All the best in it is and this is wonderful.

This game feels like my 'first love' in porn game world, so I could never give it less than 5 stars. But I have to admit that the overall quality of the game has decreased since the second chapter.

The things that once made MrDots' games so good now seem to become their downfall, namely the build-up and the extensive story. The creation of a realistic and believable setting, a slowly growing sexual love between a father and his daughter. It was constructed in such a way that I came to love this game!

But unfortunately MrDots tends to take it too far. It happened with Melody, it happened with DMD and it's currently also happening with Sunshine Love. Context-building story turns into boring and endless dialogue without any direction.

That said, I still love the game. I fell in love with the daughter a long time ago and never let go. The animations are fantastic and I'm a big fan of all the perverted stuff she's involved with. Most of all I'm glad there are finally some sharing scenes! It was a promise that was made in Chapter 1 so I'm really happy it''s finally here.

The game started nice with a nice story, nice girls and nice renders.

After midle/end of chapter 2 started going down very quickly update after update, plot and lines started to get way too boring, when he should took time to improve is writing in game to make game enjoyable again he started changing the game from a love history to a sharing one.

Chapter 3 isn't even worth mentioning is just the last bullet that "killed" the game for me.

F shifts from a loving/protecting father/bf to act now as teenager full of hormones and not like an actual father or lover, D started to change from a loving daughter/gf to someone that jumps from dick to dick the same way I change underwear every day.
The game lost is romance and actual caring relashionship.

The game should have ended long ago but the constant drag of his end is just worsening the game.

With is weak plot, boring dialogues and changing the theme of the game in the middle from romance to sharing, even with nice renders I can't recommend it for someone looking for a love history and a game that stays loyal to their roots.

My problem with certain Devs is that they don't know when to let a game go or wrap it up. My other problem with certain Devs is they try to please everyone, but in actuality you simply can't. Devs tend to spread themselves thin trying to include and gather more buzz or followers and when that happens you get the current state of DMD.

When Devs spread themselves too thin guess what suffers the most? The QUALITY and boy has that diminished since Chapter 1. We can talk about the story, the dialogue, decision making, and even the outdated renders, but overall the quality of the game has taken a major hit.

The MC went from sounding and behaving like an actual father to an obnoxious, horny teenage beta. He watched while he Daughter had to get boozed up in order to do the Martin scene, which is not father like at all. His whole demeanor changes. Everything is about sex now with him now. He's one of the worst parts of this game, not to mention the dialogue that can bore you or put you to sleep with the excessive rambling here and there.(And I'm a reader type).

The Daughter is the typical dunce girl that can be easily persuaded or corrupted. She has the face of a child, body of a teen, but tits the size of melons. In the four years of this games existence she's yet to really evolve from a overall character aspect, being open to other types of sex isn't exactly evolving it's just making her much more of a sexual deviant. She's just sort of written as this easy lay now, whether it's women or now men. It took her no time to develop feelings for Martin, it was almost comical. Majority of this entire series is Daughter being on her back, I mean I like sex but the entire plot pretty much revolves around it.

The story itself started off strong, especially in the first chapter. But as I mentioned, at this point it just feels that Devs are checking off all the boxes and saying to themselves "Okay, maybe we should try this now" or "What if we have D involved in this scenario?". It just feels at this point they're truly out of ideas and are solely relying on kink now to get them across the finish line.

Swinging being added was very confusing to me, but I wasn't surprised, I just found it ironic. I mean you basically had the MC in full Daddy mode for the first chapter or so making sure no dicks come your Daughter way... And now she's going to be shared with other random guys? Even if you don't choose the sharing path it still gets crossed up, whether it's bugs or whatnot. The presence of it still looms. If the MC wanted to whore his daughter out why wait this late in the series? This is a legitimate question. If you wanted to add this type of content why not add it earlier? Why waste my time for multiple chapters only to get bored and add random kinks? Had I'd known this was going to be the direction the game was heading I never would've played this game in the first place I can guarantee you that. The only thing left now is for the Daughter to turn into a full fledged nympho. They're probably gonna add other tags like Beastiality and continue to beat this dead horse.

Well, I said my peace and probably won't play it again any time soon.

I'm disappointed - such beautiful girls in this game, especially the daughter with sweet lips and blowing cheeks, and so many cheapy Blowjobs. I can't understand the developer why is it not possible to create more Deepthroat blowjobs. This is a game and not the real world.

TL;DR: Lots of contents, overall decent graphics quality and interesting story. But

• the writing is long-winded sometimes, and there are some mistakes & inconsistencies;
• the MC eventually appears to be an egotistic playboy rather than a loving dad / older friend;
• and female characters, especially the main one, usually look revolting.
• Sex scenes are abundant, but emotionally less and less interesting.

Detailed review:

1. Story.
Some questions and answers are repeated (e.g. D asks Elena, did she bring a bikini to Seaside, twice).
Some talks contradict each other (e.g., D says her legs are tired from wearing high heels; some time later she says she would be wearing heels for the first time).
Sometimes the order of scenes is wrong (talking about getting train tickets).
Sometimes the player's choice is fake. E.g., I choose to go to the police, but as the result I only got LPs stolen. (WTF, seriously? In real world I would get LPs, having convinced D that I care). And later the game tells me I have changed my mind... (WTF is this WTF? Though I'm not sure, maybe there was something wrong in Lain's Walkthough mod.)

2. MC
He pretends to be all loving, but in fact he feeds young girls with lots of booze, making them alcoholics. First he pretends to do that to teach D to know her limits, but then they continue to get drunk (and that gives him LPs for "trusting D"? What a freaking hypocrisy is that?)
Not mentioning that anal sex does irreparable damage to the anal sphincter, which means poop leakages, changed stature and walking manner, and eventually medical problems with rectum.
He lies much more than actually necessary.

3. Girls
D looks like an underage prostitute or a vampire, with that thick blood-read lipstick and tons of black paint on her eyelashes. No normal blonde woman would wear such makeup, especially day and night. So her face looks like piggy or donkey. So contradicting her alleged "beauty"...
Facial animations, especially in first chapters, are often scary (chin doesn't move, only lips, so opening mouth often looks like getting hare lip). Eww...
Not mentioning those freaky watermelon boobs on a petite young virgin...
In the 2nd Chapter MC tells her that young girls like her are better without makeup, and that's true; but she says that she has a habit to paint her face like that because of feeling insecure. And then she keeps that habit, even though the story says she doesn't feel insecure anymore.
Could the dev please loose that makeup, cause when it's washed away by water, she actually becomes pretty.

So, I downloaded chapter 1 expecting something mediocre. I was buffled. This game has a good story - though sometimes it can be a bit long -, the models are a solid 9/10 and the scenes seem to have quite a lot of work behind them. Also, I appreciate the fact that the corruption is slow but not too grindy at the same time. Furthermore, I found out about a certain cocktail that I would like to try. This was my first "incest" game, but I do have to say that it was kind of awkward at first it does seem to develop the characters pretty well.
Story: 8.5/10 I do love me some legal mumbo jumbo. The only complaint I have is that the story drags too long sometimes, but it is well written indeed.
Models: 9/10 The attention to detail is quite good in this one and as far as a VN on Ren'Py goes I do believe that this is one of the finest games out there.
Scenes: 9/10 As stated before, I do love the attention to detail and you can even see the pores on the skin of the models even if they are animated.
So, I give this game a Great rating, with a total of 8.83/10.
Give this one a try if you don't feel awkward about incest.

the models are a bit trivial, you can see that the game is 4 years old now, it needs a remake with updated graphics. good part of the choices to make. the plot at times a little obvious dialogues and waiting times in the norm

[As of Ch. 1-3 v0.28.1]

- Girls look nice.
- Story is ok, a bit too long and draggy, I had to fast forwarded a bit.
- lewd scenes are good.

Conclusion:
A Good game if u r into incest. On par with Melody.
4/5

An alternative title could be "White Knight Simulator", if you've ever wondered what goes on in the mind of a person who can't get laid because of their lack of confidence, you will find this game to be educational. The protagonist is such a Nice Guy™ and a True Gentleman™ that you can feel your invisible fedora being tipped at mach speed.

The renders are great, the gameplay is great and the story is fine. The writing is mediocre but even so, I would probably give this game a 4/5 if the main character wasn't so fucking cringey it makes you squirm sometimes.

Well, well,well.. was this v.0.28 a disappointing update for us "pervs" who hoped to see at least some sharing here? Yes , of course!
BUT BUT BUT... I think I understand WHY Mr Dots took this road. I will try to explain ..

As many of us noticed before, the "D only" route should have ended at the end of Ch2. With a nice "D only" ending (like the one we just got now). It didn't end at THAT Time! During the whole Ch3 Mr. Dots kept trying (without success) to combine the "D only" and the "D sharing" routes in order to satisfy both types of fans of this game. He FAILED! Which is no wonder knowing how much hate and lack of understanding there is between the fans of these 2 so different possible developments.

Before this last update , Mr Dots had in fact only 2 choices: 1 - to go full "sharing" already in Ch 3 and lose this way ALL the "kids" who can not even think of D having any kind of interaction with any other man or 2 - to do what he just did giving us (finally) a POSSIBLE end of the "D only" route, without expanding the "D sharing" route FOR THE MOMENT.

If he would have chosen the first option then D should have wan the competition (for which, if you remember, there were a few options in the past, but those were now forgotten) and go full and hard porn at/or by the model of that sex party after the competition. That would have scared all the "D only" fans who would have all left in mass.

With such a development at THIS time it would have been clear for everybody what we should expect to see in Ch4.. Full perv sexual promiscuity as it is the case it the fashion industry in real life and as we saw in a few pictures by that party. Would that have been interesting for us pervs? Yes, BUT really.. very "out of concept" of this novel even for us! After all this whole story is about LOVE.. (and SHARE while still loving, if possible.. in the future

So if you ask me, Mr. Dot's decision for option 2 was the most .. "wise" at this time. Because:

- It finally gave a good, even if still "probably not final" ending to the "D only" route. D and F live together in their own house, love and happiness is in the air, D got a dog! and she is even .. . What better ending could the "kids" hope for?

- The D only route is now DONE! Or.. is it? Hmmmm good question. It was always clear that the fans of "D only" while being so strict about D having even the thought or the dream of a possible relation with another man, they never had a problem with F's relations with other girls, not even when those other girls ended up (or in some cases started by) having also relations with D!

- So THAT kind of sharing (sharing the father) seems to be OK with both categories of fans! Maybe a little too much for the "kids" (but just a little) maybe a little too little for the pervs like me .. but for all: ACCEPTABLE! And THIS is the main reason for which Mr. Dots chose this development. He still wants to keep BOTH groups of fans. Should we wonder that he wants that? It's a bunch of money at stake, isn't it?

- So he took much care over the last few updates in developing the F + D + Georgina - 3some - polyamory route (which i personally like the most from all possible "triangles") without closing the doors to other possible triangles like D + E + J for instance or who knows, maybe even a combination of these 2 (difficult but not impossible).

-It is most probable that the "D only" route will develop in this direction, that of 1 or more "mini harems" where D will no longer be the only one WOMAN for F but .. F will still remain the only one MAN for D. So the "kids" can still enjoy the story and not leave.

- OK but how about us, the old pervs? I can also see 2 possible choices here:

1 - the next update (last for this year and for Ch3) which is by default meant to "complete" the missing parts, could find a way to redo the competition or to cancel for some reason it's results, declaring D as winner, in which case what could follow in terms of "sharing" might be even more than what we, the pervs, could dream: TOTAL PERVERSION As it is normal in real life in this industry. On a VERY separate path , of course!
or
2 - and I think this will be the dev's final choice: leave it as is with this "temp" ending and then, in Ch4 slowly bring in the "swinging" as a component of the relationships whereby Graham and Olivia would be essential for this direction, mostly now when both O and D are.. - After all, swinging is not very usual at the age of 18, nor is an "open relationship" very popular in real world at that age, so .. I would even expect to see something like "A few years later" at the beginning of Ch4. Then some other couples could participate or there may be a swingers club in the near so that also the possibility of D interacting with other men alone remains open. Maybe even Martin could get a second chance at that time.. And/Or Ryan after he traveled the world long enough..

But all these only if the 2 basic paths will be clearly and without doubt SEPARATED.
And I would bet this is the direction that Mr. Dots has chosen and this is what we should expect for the future, seeing what choices he made along the last few updates of Ch3. So , disappointing update ? YES but.. necessary

I'm kinda shocked at the turn of events this late in the game but I shouldn't be surprised seeing as it was teased earlier in production. I'm not a fan Devs who try to cater to everyone it shows their true motives, which is gaining the most patreons even if it means screwing over day one fans. Not to mention that this game has taken a nosedive in quality since chapter one. The renders are great and so are the characters but as I mentioned before the story and dialogue has been mediocre for quite some time. I'm disappointed to say the least.