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armion82
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armion82
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So then Mel B or Mel C?Who knows.
All I can say is, her full name matters.
thanatos69
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Mel O'Drama.Who knows.
All I can say is, her full name matters.
That's the M. Night Shyamalanian twist! It's Mel for Melvin...and she has a dong! A giant tattooed dong!
CunningPig
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That would be more of a Neil Jordanian twist (director of The Crying Game).
- Dec 30, 2017
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Its hard to followup after a hit. DMD was a big success, and anything else Mr.dots puts out will be a let down especailly because we never got to fully explore D. After 16 months there is actually an "emotional" investment in the game. Players helped nudge D towards being more sexually adventurous then Patreon decides to crack down on a situation it help to start.
The weird thing is the idea of D and her father having sex is just that a concept. If Mr.Dots said the two main characters had been strangers this same game theme of slowly corrupting a naive girl would be ok with their rules. Thats fucked up.
But yeah Jennifer does need to be given a makeover, she looks like she is in middle school, and that is kinda creepy.
And all the girls could stand to be a few inches taller to look less "little girl". D with long legs would be killer.
The weird thing is the idea of D and her father having sex is just that a concept. If Mr.Dots said the two main characters had been strangers this same game theme of slowly corrupting a naive girl would be ok with their rules. Thats fucked up.
But yeah Jennifer does need to be given a makeover, she looks like she is in middle school, and that is kinda creepy.
And all the girls could stand to be a few inches taller to look less "little girl". D with long legs would be killer.
IMO, the bigger developers, or games like BigBrother, DoD, DmD, and others need to get into a group chat and start discussing this and find a place to land on one of the newer development sites.
I think if all the larger titles jump from Patreon to someone else, it sends a message as well as gives a lot of legitimacy as well as clientele to a new platform.
They just need to watch out for sites that try and take ownership of stuff that's been uploaded to them.
It's only a matter of time until Patreon dies. It's been shooting itself in the foot.
The sooner the AIF/VN community finds an alternative funding platform, the better for the community.
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thing is game developing for most of them is an hobby,very profitable one and not any dev will leave patreon to start their own site and turn their hobby into full time job,something like LOPgold or Vdate games.It's just not worth it for them,i'd bet that lop or vdate don't get near the same earnings in a year what some patreon devs get in a month
SikaNauta
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Oh, they'll not only survive I think they will thrive. The amount of bad publicity seems big to us because we're getting the shitty end of the stick ATM. In the larger context, this is just a blip for them. Investor money is rolling in. Selling out is popular because it can be VERY profitable.
lynx33
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Patreon will die for porn games, that's for sure. And most likely, the influx of Youtubers coming in will make up for it tenfold. As much as we hate it, this is a money decision for Patreon and more mainstream content like Youtubers will always outearn adult games.
I personally think that the fear/idea of pron getting banned from Patreon is more than a bit overblown. Despite how some here act there is a notable difference between "extreme" content like incest etc. and more "standard" fare. And I see little reason why the later would become truly problematic for Patreon since in my experience that isn't really something that investors care that much about or which is that controversial that they would have to worry about a ton of negative press.
And considering how much better and easier it is for somebody to stay on Patreon in regards to userbase, trust etc. than switching to a new platform (which in all likelihood will run into the same issues that Patreon did if they become truly successful) would be I don't exactly see much reason for any serious developer to do so (I mean it is not like they will make significantly less money if they avoid said problem zones).
Sure, since there is a clear demand for such taboo games there will likely some method of monetization but I have a hard time believing that it will rival "normal" porn anytime soon.
lynx33
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I do agree with you there, but with porn games being 95% about those taboo subjects these days... either the devs leave or the devs adapt. So at least Patreon is dead for that kinda porn game. But yes, I think devs might stay with new more agreeable concepts.
My main point was though, that Patreon will not die from this. The porn fans this alienates is a tiny group compared to what they're currently getting in from Youtubers and in venture capital funding.
But what is Patreon really. Its just a crowd-funded sight. Devs go there because it's well known. Devs do all the work and essentially Patreon gives them credibility and a place to advertise. Or am I wrong about this.
The thing about a new site, is that it will need big titles to make a name brand of themselves. And if the bigger game developers, basically the ones that can do this as a living, then that would lead to a huge payoff and could/should bring them the smaller ones as well. And sure, they are looking at a niche market. Basically porn game developers, but if anything this site has shown is that there a lot of developers out there.
Which is why I'm suggesting that they all get together to decide where to go and who to back. They'd give that new site proven product and essentially credibility, and by extension show other developers where to land.
Granted, choose wrongly and the site goes under and doesn't pay you, or they have try to take control of the stuff the developers create.
Personally, I think it's a mistake for developers like MrDots to stay with Patreon at this point. Because they could easily change their policy completely away from porn. Further, abandoning projects that have people already invested in said projects, like DmD, are people really going to want to start over on a new project when what they wanted and the reason they gave money was for the payoff that hasn't happen, but was (after 1.5yrs) finally starting to happen.
Granted, this isn't just a sheer abandonment of the game in the classic sense, MrDots' hands have been cut off in regards to DmD and that wasn't foreseeable, but if he chooses to try another one, as he seems to be, then it'll be much harder to get funding. He'll alienate lots by this, further, I think people will be skeptical of supporting Patreon after this as well.
lynx33
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Sure, and I'm not suggesting that any devs turn to non-porn, but your posts seem to miss what is actually the point of what I was writing. My point was in no way to start or be part of a discussion of what porn creators should do with the patreon situation, but rather to point out that whoever I initially quoted is dead wrong in claiming Patreon will die and that we as a community vastly overrate what adult games mean to them compared to other genres and that while we might dislike this recent purge, it makes perfect sense business wise to them.
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From Creator MrDots Games
About DMD:
I’ll be moving the content to my own personal website and we will try to find a way to keep the development going.
Don’t worry, I’ve already saved your email addresses and you’ll be hearing from me soon. Even if you decide to remove your pledge, I will keep in touch with you since I owe you this month’s rewards and I plan on delivering, but it won’t be on this platform anymore.
About DMD:
I’ll be moving the content to my own personal website and we will try to find a way to keep the development going.
Don’t worry, I’ve already saved your email addresses and you’ll be hearing from me soon. Even if you decide to remove your pledge, I will keep in touch with you since I owe you this month’s rewards and I plan on delivering, but it won’t be on this platform anymore.
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I disagree. its the fantasy taboo aspect of the games is what makes people play them. With as readily available as main stream porn is there will be little incentive for players to flock to a game, and with Patreon already showing they are willing to change the rules mid-game every dev will be living on borrowed time.
What happens when mothers start to bitch that they caught their snowflake offspring playing a Patreon approved game that show a digital girl's no-no parts? Patreon will roll over devs again. Remember when Janet Jackson's nipple slipped out at a Superbowl halftime show? The country went nuts. Or the flack about the simulated classical nudity in the Greek Olympics opening ceremonies?
Once you let the judgemental "others" censor content it doesn't stop.
DMD is no more unless Mr.Dots makes an effort to do it as a FU