VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

['Jaeger']

I'm somewhat pessimistic as well. Even MrDots's recent posts get my spider-sense tingling. First it's "DMD will be finished no matter what" and then "We will start focusing our energy on the new project after we release v.17."....

I'm not pessimistic I think, I just can't see the light at the end of the tunnel, a way it'd work out for DMD when it's taking a backseat. Dots said focus will shift from DMD to this new project, DMD itself is no longer monetized, so if the project fails, DMD will not be updated since Dots is pretty Patreon dependant so he needs a working project there, and if the project succeeds, then there'll be a reason for Dots to focus on that even more, which means a chance of him abandoning DMD completely. Not that I'd blame him, he has to make a living, but yeah. Sad times.

I absolutely agree with both of you. One more remarkable sentence: "...we will have to focus on the new game, DMD won’t be updated for a while so I thought maybe we should include some of the content that was going to be included in v0.18..." (R.I.P. v.18)
MrDots is very smart. All of his maneuvers (announcements and others) served only one purpose (IMO): to keep as many patrons as possible until the new project starts. And than - if the new project will be successful - no hope or any chance for DMD.
I'm very disappointed now. I'm really sorry, but I can't trust him anymore...

 

[justjoe2k]

MrDots just announce the new game called Melody. Got to hand it to him, he knows how to please the first expression by just a picture.

 

[yuyu2008]

The news of MrDots about the Chap 2 0.17 is very interesting. Il love the picture of "D" with a rose. And the new release for Valentine's day !

 

[tom-poolman]

So, main questions are : whene and where will be published DMD version 17? And where can it be payd to hin for that?

 

[wrx21]

This is the lead DMD writer replying to a poster, "Endless", who asked about future plans for DMD.
The word "ideal" is dreadful news. It's like someone entering a negotiation unwilling to make any concession whatsoever.
This stubborn mindset has to change--by other devs as well--or Patreon just tramples us all.

yeah that really is dreadful,it's like when you're dying for pizza and someone gives you boiled leek
if they're going to wait for ideal patreon replacement then we can say dmd is finished

 

[rciik]

I got mixed feelings about this. On one side I am happy to play DMD again, but on the other side I don't want to send Patreon any more money than I have to - I much rather send it to MrDots directly (support your developers guys, it is much appreciated).

We'll see what this new game has to offer, but if we only get one DMD update every 2-3 months, I don't know. Especially if it is only an hour of playtime, each time.

 

[wrx21]

I got mixed feelings about this. On one side I am happy to play DMD again, but on the other side I don't want to send Patreon any more money than I have to - I much rather send it to MrDots directly (support your developers guys, it is much appreciated).

We'll see what this new game has to offer, but if we only get one DMD update every 2-3 months, I don't know. Especially if it is only an hour of playtime, each time.

agree with you,i don't plan to cancel my pledge to mrdots but i'd be a lot happier to send the payment directly to him rather through patreon after all this shit
only way i'd be happy with dmd update,lets say one update in 3 months,is that amount of content "covers" the other two months,it would be underwhelming to get one update in few months with the same amount of content he's been delivering until now

 

[Blitqz]

You do realize that no one thought Patreon would be banning fetish heavy games and content the first time around right? Just because they haven't done it yet doesn't mean they won't. You may be right, they may never fully ban adult content, but then again you could be wrong and it's just a matter of time. Especially if these devs try and secretly keep producing their banned games while using their Patreon friendly games to continue generating revenue.

At the end of the day Patreon is a business, and like most businesses sooner or later they won't want to be associated with porn. Jack Conte has made it clear that he doesn't endorse nor support porn content of any kind on Patreon. They tolerate it now, it's only fair to assume that they won't in the near future.

I agree. I think this might be MrDots best option atm. Toe the line for a little bit with this game until a better alternative comes up, like one of the new sites that are being proposed.

I also think that since this happened, MrDots is not naive to the longevity of porn games on Patreon. I think he knows the writing is one the wall and inevitable that he will have to wait for those other options. This is a way to bide his time, earn some income and keep developing, mostly Melody, but also some DMD on the side.

The biggest question marks on a new site are their rules, longevity, and payment options. I think the speculation is right and that PayPal may not be the best option due to not supporting porn. Thus a new site would have to have payment structures outside of PayPal, while using a system that is easily accessible in all countries.

 

[Jeff Steel]

Ah, my friend!
I refuse to be a patron. The Patreon set-up is such a bad business deal for patrons and I am COMPLETELY averse to such deals. As well, getting pulled through an emotional wringer by strangers is just too much for me.
But I truly respect patrons and wish them well. They are a joy to the community.
But your hopes of 2-3 months before DMD 0.18 seem misplaced. It very much looks like some devs (BB,DMD) negotiated being allowed to deliver their patrons an update AFTER the game itself had been nuked on Patreon. As a once-and-done. After DMD 0.17, there is no good way--let alone ideal--for Dots to release DMD 0.18. He would have to change the studio name and recruit NEW patrons.

Thanks for hating Patreon but respecting Patrons, VtV

 

[Lndlordd]

Lots of mixed opinions here......but personally, looking forward to the new game while simultaneously hopeful that we will see a lot more of DMD.....(Also love the new character, just my opinion but Melody looks hotter than the characters we saw on DMD)

 

[smnb]

Where do we as human society stop? Yes it's a game but now we are moving into pedophile area surely?
I will not denying a 16yr old girl sounds for a slightest moment interesting but only slightly, we have to stop somewhere.

Don't worry, we're nowhere near the pedophile area. Pedophiles like prepubescent kids. That's not the case of 16yo anymore. Even laws have no problem with that, see the age of consent, it's around 15yo in majority of the world. And that's real people.

Here we have only games, no real people. So why it should matter if fictional character looks under 18 is beyond me. There isn't even any standard for the right look for given age, because that's impossible. Look at the new Melody character (

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), she looks plausibly anywhere between 15yo and 25yo. It's up to each individual what they want to see. It's like DMD's D, her balloons made her look older, but I always had the feeling that she either lied about her age or must be slightly "challenged". I'm not sure which one is worse.

But again, it's just fiction. Remember that the idea behind "underage is bad" used to be protecting children from abuse. There's no child to protect here. And where to stop is very simple, there's very clear border between fiction and reality, there are no doubts where one ends and the other one begins, so just use that. Failure to do so leads exactly to where we're now. First it was fictional children, then fictional incest, rape, ... And I can simply reuse your question for this, where do we as human society stop?

 

[xsssssssss]

Hmm blurb on new game doesn’t particularly excite nor do I find melody particularly appealing.
Just hoping dmd continues in parallel, though I fear they’ll ditch it.

 

[Aitan_3]

I absolutely agree with both of you. One more remarkable sentence: "...we will have to focus on the new game, DMD won’t be updated for a while so I thought maybe we should include some of the content that was going to be included in v0.18..." (R.I.P. v.18)
MrDots is very smart. All of his maneuvers (announcements and others) served only one purpose (IMO): to keep as many patrons as possible until the new project starts. And than - if the new project will be successful - no hope or any chance for DMD.
I'm very disappointed now. I'm really sorry, but I can't trust him anymore...

For what it's worth, I am currently writing some scenes for a future DMD release (0.20 more or less). Everybody in the team wishes that we'll be able to complete DMD the way we imagined it, but figuring out the best strategy is no easy task for MrDots.

 

[wrx21]

For what it's worth, I am currently writing some scenes for a future DMD release (0.20 more or less). Everybody in the team wishes that we'll be able to complete DMD the way we imagined it, but figuring out the best strategy is no easy task for MrDots.

hey good to have you back onboard,i remember you saying that you won't be involved in ch.2 as much as you were in ch.1,did the things changed?will you be involved more in dmd again or is this just temporarily?

 

[redevil70]

but sorry guys, was not it easier to create a website for DMD and apply a nice Donate button? I've seen a lot of websites in the open source world that do it because Mrdots could not do it too? in this way the money would arrive directly to him you do not believe?

 

[Aitan_3]

hey good to have you back onboard,i remember you saying that you won't be involved in ch.2 as much as you were in ch.1,did the things changed?will you be involved more in dmd again or is this just temporarily?

Hi there! ^^

No, I am afraid I am still not really involved with dmd chapter 2 - that is, I am not writing scenes following the usual monthly schedule, nor I am contributing much when it comes to the creation of new settings, new characters etc. (I still share my general ideas obviously, but it's up to the other members of the team to decide whether to work on them or not). That said, there are some scenes that I have been longing to write since I started working with MrDots more than a year ago (D's first orgasm was one of them, for example), and atm I am trying to work just on them, when/if I can, with no pressure at all. The scene I am currently working on, for example, is a sort of mini-game that could "unlock" one particular sexual act a couple of episodes before it becomes available in the "main" corruption progress.

That said, I have been fully involved with the ideation and planning of Melody from the get-go - times of crisis require the commitment of the team in its entirety I reckon - and I am really proud of/excited about it!

 

[bobdillan]

Yeah. A huge risk for MrDots is that people think he has somehow lost his "mojo". Never do I believe this! I don't even believe that such a lackluster title, "Melody" was anything like what the dev-team wanted but what Patreon was willing to approve.
D was showing lots of skin in her preview pics before DMD 0.01. Mel as a model seems cute enough but Patreon seems to want her not appearing too sexy (mission accomplished). People will pay/play for a MrDots project--we can all agree on his brilliance. Patreon is such a dead-weight on "Melody".
If Patreon oversight of projects becomes the rule, not the exception, devs better find an alternative ASAP...

i personally don't mind the cute look, as most games have been doing the sexy look too much so I think it would be refreshing, but fuck mainstream bullshit baised head up their arsehole media, because of their bullshit fact manipulation it forced patreon to do what they are doing to keep up their appearances, like everyone else i just wanna blast and hate on patreon but in reality they are probably just reacting to shitty media articles and shit.

 

[Deleted member 219719]

Where do we as human society stop? Yes it's a game but now we are moving into pedophile area surely?
I will not denying a 16yr old girl sounds for a slightest moment interesting but only slightly, we have to stop somewhere.

No we don't. It's a game, it's fictional.
Honest question for you:
Do you think real pedophilia, rape or incest is *any* worse than physical and/or mental torture or straight up murder?

All of it is illegal in reality, and if you still decide to rape or murder someone, you'll most likely face severe consequences.

And yet for some *strange* reason, I can waltz into a GameStop and buy GTA V where I can mass murder innocent people for my amusement, I can just find a perfectly legal streaming site and watch SAW movies where some sick fuck brutally tortures his victims, or I can just turn on the TV and I bet my left kidney some will be murdered on the screen during the following hour, but that's fine too, because it's all fictional!
So why the cruade against incest? Game of Thrones has incest in it, as well as rape and murder and torture and pedophilia and oh look, that's a perfectly legal TV show!

And I'm supposed to just ignore this hypocrisy or what?

 

[Antoninus_]

Hi there! ^^

No, I am afraid I am still not really involved with dmd chapter 2 - that is, I am not writing scenes following the usual monthly schedule, nor I am contributing much when it comes to the creation of new settings, new characters etc. (I still share my general ideas obviously, but it's up to the other members of the team to decide whether to work on them or not). That said, there are some scenes that I have been longing to write since I started working with MrDots more than a year ago (D's first orgasm was one of them, for example), and atm I am trying to work just on them, when/if I can, with no pressure at all. The scene I am currently working on, for example, is a sort of mini-game that could "unlock" one particular sexual act a couple of episodes before it becomes available in the "main" corruption progress.

That said, I have been fully involved with the ideation and planning of Melody from the get-go - times of crisis require the commitment of the team in its entirety I reckon - and I am really proud of/excited about it.

Do you know the day v16.5 will be released? Or it's only v17 the 14?

 

[Kane Salvatore]

So either Dots leaves Patreon--less than "ideal" but better than nothing--to continue with a proven money-maker, DMD, or he sells the franchise--lock, stock, files, assets--to a different studio.
One way or another, DMD will be continued. Big question : When?

this would probably not end well either since the writing style and other aspects of the game would change..