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I can understand sharing, but bestiality doesn't make any sense with her character at all. I'm not really into kink shaming, but bestiality, rape and pedo is where I draw the line. I'm not going to say what I think about people that are into those three "fetishes" because I enjoy posting here too much. But it's ugly.
Bestiality, rape, and pedo share the same thing, a lack of agency by one partner. Ironically, so does the relationship between a father/daughter - or at least, due to the relationship, there is an inherent tile of power balance to the father. Note how Lolita goes as a novel, the main character loses power over Lolita and she eventually leaves him. A sense of justice.

DMD for me has that flaw in the power dynamics, which is why I would like to see her not leave F at the end, but to be empowered at the end so she is an equal partner over all, and in more control of some life issues than F is.

I’ve always thought that when the story ends, one could find D being the main protagonist. She certainly will have had the greatest character arc.
 

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Why complain when you as the player are given the choice to pursue that content or not? if the content was forced upon you its one thing, but you will see that stuff only if you choose to, it has been this way since CH1, its like going into a restaurant you check the menu and pick what you like, you dont need to order all the plates just because is there.
 

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Why complain when you as the player are given the choice to pursue that content or not? if the content was forced upon you its one thing, but you will see that stuff only if you choose to, it has been this way since CH1, its like going into a restaurant you check the menu and pick what you like, you dont need to order all the plates just because is there.
Almost like Babysitter and The Tyrant.NTR fans complains against love and corruption routes and others complains against NTR:)And in both games all things are optional too.
 
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King Arthur, Guinevere and Lancelot. Lancelot steals the affections of Guinevere from King Arthur.

I know that MDots is not opposed to these plot conflicts, and is very understanding of concerns of players to avoid these wherever possible. I also know that, at least in part, these themes could very possibly be in any product he does. I see it as dramatic story telling - if the MC has not chance at losing the main female character, if there is no risk, then what is the point of a game with no risk.

If that means you won’t follow MDots, I understand.
 
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Note how Lolita goes as a novel, the main character loses power over Lolita and she eventually leaves him. A sense of justice.
I’ve always thought that when the story ends, one could find D being the main protagonist. She certainly will have had the greatest character arc.
So are we going to see D in the heart sunglasses from Lolita?
D could wear them to the nude beach, only the sunglasses.
I mean come on, it's too good a pop-culture reference.
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Im just scrolling through some threads and came across this one. i heard there is a pet route and a few other thing s and it would help to get a little clarification. Is the pet route where the daughter is treated like a pet or where you fucks a dog or some shit cause im down either way tbh. Also is the ntr avoidable? because i personally dont like that as well as the main thot fucking some other dude. If yall could let me know that would be sweet as honey tits thanks.
 

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a lack of agency by one partner. Ironically, so does the relationship between a father/daughter - or at least, due to the relationship, there is an inherent tile of power balance to the father.
As a side point, any chance that there's a certain level of sexism involved? Even some posters on these boards have said that F/D is disturbing, but M/S is not.

Assuming 21+ (or whatever the age of consent is in your country), why should a fictional story... with no actors no less... of a man sleeping with his mothers, or sisters, or etc... get an "attaboy" but as soon as a woman sleeps with her father, uncles, grandfather gives a squick feeling (If I got the term right)?

Kind of like... man sleeps around... way to go. Woman sleeps around... slut. Sorry but, women have sexual agency too. Heck, I remember ready the hateful posts of the "I love daddy" game where the protagonist is the D, and she's the one pursuing and convincing the F... and some HATED that. Kind of a lose both ways kind of deal.

I'm not saying it is a sexist lack of female agency in her own sexuality... but it's something to think about.

Sidebar = People outside this board (or ones like it) freak the fuck out about sexual content in games or videos... in this case...pixels no less... no actors.

But I can watch, on a loop if I wanted, the Game of Thrones babies being stabbed, pregnant woman stabbed through the baby bump, close up of a child being drained to death, "Mountain vs Viper"... etc... and as long as I have the receipts for the DVDs... in most countries, lawyers can do nothing... NOTHING.

But an actress or game says "daddy...." and people lose their shit.

And if people say "There's a chance you could do it."... so... should we ban knives after a Halloween movies, or chemicals after a MacGyver episode, or guns... after almost any form...of entertainment... ever...

I won't change any minds here, or anywhere really, but people are weird about sex, especially the F/D type. IMO of course.
 

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As a side point, any chance that there's a certain level of sexism involved? Even some posters on these boards have said that F/D is disturbing, but M/S is not.

Assuming 21+ (or whatever the age of consent is in your country), why should a fictional story... with no actors no less... of a man sleeping with his mothers, or sisters, or etc... get an "attaboy" but as soon as a woman sleeps with her father, uncles, grandfather gives a squick feeling (If I got the term right)?

Kind of like... man sleeps around... way to go. Woman sleeps around... slut. Sorry but, women have sexual agency too. Heck, I remember ready the hateful posts of the "I love daddy" game where the protagonist is the D, and she's the one pursuing and convincing the F... and some HATED that. Kind of a lose both ways kind of deal.

I'm not saying it is a sexist lack of female agency in her own sexuality... but it's something to think about.

Sidebar = People outside this board (or ones like it) freak the fuck out about sexual content in games or videos... in this case...pixels no less... no actors.

But I can watch, on a loop if I wanted, the Game of Thrones babies being stabbed, pregnant woman stabbed through the baby bump, close up of a child being drained to death, "Mountain vs Viper"... etc... and as long as I have the receipts for the DVDs... in most countries, lawyers can do nothing... NOTHING.

But an actress or game says "daddy...." and people lose their shit.

And if people say "There's a chance you could do it."... so... should we ban knives after a Halloween movies, or chemicals after a MacGyver episode, or guns... after almost any form...of entertainment... ever...

I won't change any minds here, or anywhere really, but people are weird about sex, especially the F/D type. IMO of course.
As to which the US supreme court ruled, that animated depiction of children being sexual, does not constitute child, pornography, since no real children were ever involved.
 
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So are we going to see D in the heart sunglasses from Lolita?
D could wear them to the nude beach, only the sunglasses.
I mean come on, it's too good a pop-culture reference.
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A truly honest coincidence, but I had the notion a few days back to search out those heart-shaped sunglasses for an homage-tinged Fan Art thread composition involving our favorite daughter character :) .

Found them pretty easily and guess I should get into that piece ...
 
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As to which the US supreme court ruled, that animated depiction of children being sexual, does not constitute child, pornography, since no real children were ever involved.
Thanks, though, having said 21+, that's not what I meant. I just meant incest roleplay, or incest games... esp. F/D... really really gets some people upset, including lawyers, though extremely violent mainstream, does not.
 

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Kind of the point of adult VNs are to manipulate the characters into somewhat unrealistic situations that are interesting. Players should have a choice in which interesting situations the characters engage, but given the choice between a mundane action and a prevy night out most of us will more often than not chose for the characters to engage in unconventional actions.
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Rachel and Georgina who are both fairly strong women living with D and F?
Catfights. My advice to the MC and D is to run.
See MC and D.
See MC and D Run.
Run MC and D Run.
= Run D MC !?
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It's Tricky, but if these dudes are banging D's Rock Box and giving her Hard Times, You be 'illin if you don't Walk This Way, then Hit It and Run. Some say D might be a Dumb Girl, but I'm Not Going Out Like That.
 
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