VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[fried]

I'm not talking about the swinging parts, I'm talking about D fucking other guys without the MC's presence. That's neither sharing nor swinging. It's her fucking someone else.

Being in the room or not makes no difference - if they agreed and especially if the sexual-only time with other swinging partners is known/planned between them, it's still swinging.

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In swinging, the default dynamic is a primary relationship of one couple. As opposed to cheating, the partners are honest and open with each other about their sexual relationships with others. Sex with other people is typically an activity couples engage in together.
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Swinger couples also define their preferences in other ways. For example, there are distinctions for same-room-only couples, as opposed to couples who are comfortable with separate rooms.

 

[numanumani]

Could you two get a room or something?

The dev has replied and it seems unlikely that the discussion as it stands is going to sway anyone's opinion of what NTR means or what is going on in the game.

 

[eddie987]

Being in the room or not makes no difference - if they agreed and especially if the sexual-only time with other swinging partners is known/planned between them, it's still swinging.

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Yeah, but what you are saying is about couples, not just one of them getting fucked while the other one is sitting around doing nothing. Swinging involves exchange of partners not just a free pass to fuck someone else. The post I replied to, didn't say that there will be swinging and they just won't be in the same room, but that just D will fuck someone else.

 

[Ed B]

There’s not a vacation - there’s release of VN3.

I know on Discord it's said early 2020

 

[Ed B]

Wellll.....Lasted a few pages at least without all the NTR stuff being brought up lol

 

[♩♪♫ ŤЦ尺尺ØЛ ♫♪♩]

I noticed that daughter "miraculously" wears her bra back when being eaten out by margo.....weird girl.

or is she just shy?

 

[Casual Observer]

Nothing behind F’s back (at least no dude behind his back - D has already played with Olivia and Elena behind F’s back).

It is possible D, with F’s knowledge and approval, could have sex in the other room with a male without F being in that room. Not a guarantee, but a possibility.

That would not be NTR since we are narrowly defining NTR to include a “stealing of affections” - see the etymology below:

Netora as a Japanese term for cuckoldry literally translates to "taken away by sleeping with."

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sounds like bs rationalization to me...

 

[Casual Observer]

She's her own person and can get agreement with F to sleep with other guys in a swinging manner out of respect for being open+honest with each other, but he's not her pimp and she makes her own decisions. Likewise if F wanted to swing with her knowledge.

NTR is cheating and/or being unfaithful, even though it's more complex than that before translating from Japanese:

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Regardless of the complexity involved, NTR isn't about accepted swinging with others, nor is it an open relationship that still maintains the core partners without deceit.

There is a hidden or unfaithful aspect to NTR which is not what DMD is proposing to offer and the presence of someone in a room or not doesn't change the aspect of it being an openly admitted sharing of sexual activities with others ... with no attempt to hide that activity or be unfaithful to the other partner in the process.

Some modern-day subcultures are fixated on cuckoldry as an insult and have abused the terminology to include all sorts of things in the most negative fashion possible. NTR has been thrown under that umbrella at times and this is a problem for those who see that terminology as failing us due to misuse.

She's her own person and can get agreement with F to sleep with other guys in a swinging manner out of respect for being open+honest with each other, but he's not her pimp and she makes her own decisions. Likewise if F wanted to swing with her knowledge.

NTR is cheating and/or being unfaithful, even though it's more complex than that before translating from Japanese:

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Regardless of the complexity involved, NTR isn't about accepted swinging with others, nor is it an open relationship that still maintains the core partners without deceit.

There is a hidden or unfaithful aspect to NTR which is not what DMD is proposing to offer and the presence of someone in a room or not doesn't change the aspect of it being an openly admitted sharing of sexual activities with others ... with no attempt to hide that activity or be unfaithful to the other partner in the process.

Some modern-day subcultures are fixated on cuckoldry as an insult and have abused the terminology to include all sorts of things in the most negative fashion possible. NTR has been thrown under that umbrella at times and this is a problem for those who see that terminology as failing us due to misuse.

Except she's not a person, she's a character and she has no free will and is subject to the obviously prejudicial whims of the writing staff to enact their personal agenda no matter how that may conflict with how the characters have been developed previously...

 

[jamdan]

Every single post you've made has been in this thread and most of them have been complaining. If you don't want to share D you don't have to. If you don't like the game, don't play it.

Its super easy to avoid, you can literally change the relationships in-game whenever you want. There isn't any NTR; go play an NTR game. What happens in those games and what happens in this aren't even comparable.

 

[Casual Observer]

Every single post you've made has been in this thread and most of them have been complaining. If you don't want to share D you don't have to. If you don't like the game, don't play it.

Its super easy to avoid, you can literally change the relationships in-game whenever you want. There isn't any NTR; go play an NTR game. What happens in those games and what happens in this aren't even comparable.

Me?

 

[Casual Observer]

Every single post you've made has been in this thread and most of them have been complaining. If you don't want to share D you don't have to. If you don't like the game, don't play it.

Its super easy to avoid, you can literally change the relationships in-game whenever you want. There isn't any NTR; go play an NTR game. What happens in those games and what happens in this aren't even comparable.

I like the game or things wouldn't bother me, I'd just go on to another. This thread is about the game, that's why I'm in it. I still don't know why you continue to analyze peoples post history or why you think which threads I or anyone else have posted in are relevant.

 

[Casual Observer]

Nothing behind F’s back (at least no dude behind his back - D has already played with Olivia and Elena behind F’s back).

It is possible D, with F’s knowledge and approval, could have sex in the other room with a male without F being in that room. Not a guarantee, but a possibility.

That would not be NTR since we are narrowly defining NTR to include a “stealing of affections” - see the etymology below:

Netora as a Japanese term for cuckoldry literally translates to "taken away by sleeping with."

Etymology
From

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(ne, “

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Well if you really want to appease the people who want to see Martin featured sexually and wanted to be really progressive rather than cliche then you could have MC banging Martin while D is in the other room or Martin banging MC while he's banging D or vice versa. I mean if you're bound and determined to feature things that go against established character profiles in the name of progressive sexuality then you might as well go full bore. Right? I mean obviously it's important to you to push boundaries with the characters so why not?

 

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we got a troll here. stop the press.

 

[SAMASH112]

My eyes still allow me to read these comments, it's a sign that I still don't hate the word NTR to death, for now. One more thread, another discussion of NTR without being NTR. Let's see if we look for the definition of the word in Google, because it's already insulting.

 

[Casual Observer]

we got a troll here. stop the press.

It wasn't meant as a troll post. It's a serious question.

 

[SAMASH112]

Nothing behind F’s back (at least no dude behind his back - D has already played with Olivia and Elena behind F’s back).

It is possible D, with F’s knowledge and approval, could have sex in the other room with a male without F being in that room. Not a guarantee, but a possibility.

That would not be NTR since we are narrowly defining NTR to include a “stealing of affections” - see the etymology below:

Netora as a Japanese term for cuckoldry literally translates to "taken away by sleeping with."

Etymology
From

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(ne, “

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(toru, “to

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There will be something close to that fetish with D, but I think it will be close. In any case, whether there is or not, it will not take away my sleep, it's just a game, also because we will have the option of not seeing it, as easy as pressing a button as happened in Chapter 2 or choosing another path.

 

[Monetauro]

I don't know, but maybe these people who are so bothered by this subject may actually just get tired of the game creating stories based on F being jealous of D. And the fear of losing her. (thus causing the player to have these feelings too).
There are countless times this has happened throughout the game. With other women it may not affect so many players, but with other men...

 

[Mormont]

My eyes still allow me to read these comments, it's a sign that I still don't hate the word NTR to death, for now. One more thread, another discussion of NTR without being NTR. Let's see if we look for the definition of the word in Google, because it's already insulting.

I don't think you can ever escape that topic it's just one of those things that always seems to cause such debate even in Non-NTR threads it always manages to pop up and the circle just repeats itself in every other thread.

 

[SAMASH112]

I don't think you can ever escape that topic it's just one of those things that always seems to cause such debate even in Non-NTR threads it always manages to pop up and the circle just repeats itself in every other thread.

Yeah, but from so much to repeat, it's reaching a nightmare level.

 

[SAMASH112]

I don't know, but maybe these people who are so bothered by this subject may actually just get tired of the game creating stories based on F being jealous of D. And the fear of losing her. (thus causing the player to have these feelings too).
There are countless times this has happened throughout the game. With other women it may not affect so many players, but with other men...

Well, that's why these games are tagged with adult-only content (+18). If there is any susceptible person, or with some psychological problem or trauma, them should try to avoid such games, and for that there is the information in the main post. If there is no tag or reference that names the existence of such a fetish or path, then there should be no problem. The rest is a matter of taste.