VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[DA22]

I believe you continue to get hung up on game mechanics, even though you say otherwise: using the MC as the lever for moving the story to different optional paths is merely a mechanism chosen by the Dev for running this Ren'Py-platform game.

As the player, you are moving a Virtual Novel forward - inherent therein is the notion that the novel has predestined paths (in this case, MC and D as a couple) and then optional paths. Your choices as a player decide how many optional paths occur.

In that regard, MC and D are some major characters - this is not focused on the MC's story alone. They are necessarily a pair from practically the beginning and their dynamic is now to the point where D initiates actions/choices to take as much as the MC.

Do we see scenes where D makes decisions devoid of the MC? Absolutely. Does D offer new ideas that the MC hasn't considered or discussed, especially in Chapter 3 as her character becomes more independent and driven? All of the time. Do other characters have their own subplots and motivations? Since the first Chapter, but increasingly so. And so on - this isn't a story about the MC viewing the world, many tales have an initial lens through which the full storyline and all its paths are made available, but then become far greater than the focus of that lens.

Although this game offers MC and D as the primary characters, coincidentally reflecting the title's hinting at their pairing. The MC grows beyond his prior submission to his ex-wife's control of their daughter, but in this VN it is D who grows the most: the MC becomes her partner and enabler, at best. They both grow in affection to each other and the MC can also be argued as manipulating D towards his affections, but ultimately you are given different levers in which to drive the story and D is certainly the most significant member of it, with MC besides her. It doesn't matter than many choices seem made as the MC, but let's not forget that many choices in Chapter 3 are of mutual agreement - not merely the MC forcing the choice of, say, oral sex or a threesome, whether to agree with secondary character propositions, etc.

I do not think we are ever going to agree, you want to make it a multiple protag game at best, but do have a look at my edit. I think we will have to agree to disagree. To me it is a game all about the father and the daughter is just there to help his story and it is not her story. Now like I said in my edit, that game with D as protagonist with all your arguments and analysis in your original post might have made an even more interesting game.

 

[Trikus]

DEV, no more other guys or women with out the option to say NO at any time! That includes Elena and Georgina. No man is ever truly happy with sharing his bride to be(no matter how or who), he might be seduced to do things but it never sits right and will lead to misery in the long run, it always does. By adding others you will lose players/subscribers/patreons if there is no option to refuse their involvement in the story. Don´t kill the game/story by dumb decisions please.
You missed a true opportunity for a happy ending to the chapter when saying that the MC is the biological father, otherwise a legit wedding followed by a hell of a wedding night could be done. Suggest you recall last update and do that instead.

You have the option to say no at pretty much every opportunity. And if you accidentally get on a sharing path, the dev put in a way to turn off the path. Not sure what else the dev could do to help the puritans out.

 

[DA22]

You have the option to say no at pretty much every opportunity. And if you accidentally get on a sharing path, the dev put in a way to turn off the path. Not sure what else the dev could do to help the puritans out.

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Not putting them in. I am not a puritan but not forcing someone not to play them is not same as avoidable especially with forums that share information and things that happen. All wishes and desires are just as valid, in the end it is the devs who decide what will be in and get the flack for it from either group of players.

 

[fried]

I do not think we are ever going to agree, you want to make it at best a multiple protag game at best, but do have a look at my edit. I think we will have to agree to disagree. To me it is a game all about the father and the daughter is just there to help his story and it is not her story. Now like I said in my edit, that game with D as protagonist with all your arguments and analysis in your original post might have made an even more interesting game.

It is certainly your right to feel that this is a story primarily about the MC.

It doesn't matter that this perspective seems to go against the grain of everything written about its focus by the Dev team, because "art" is up to the viewer.

 

[armion82]

DEV, no more other guys or women with out the option to say NO at any time! That includes Elena and Georgina. No man is ever truly happy with sharing his bride to be(no matter how or who), he might be seduced to do things but it never sits right and will lead to misery in the long run, it always does. By adding others you will lose players/subscribers/patreons if there is no option to refuse their involvement in the story. Don´t kill the game/story by dumb decisions please.
You missed a true opportunity for a happy ending to the chapter when saying that the MC is the biological father, otherwise a legit wedding followed by a hell of a wedding night could be done. Suggest you recall last update and do that instead.

Nobody is forcing you to share D with anyone.

 

[DA22]

It is certainly your right to feel that this is a story primarily about the MC.

It doesn't matter that this perspective seems to go against the grain of everything written about its focus by the Dev team, because "art" is up to the viewer.

It does not go against all that happens in the game though before late chapter 3, where it seems dev team suddenly wishes to change focus of the game which feels very off from rest of the game and is still a stretch even with the development of D that you had in your analysis and none of the male options make any real sense. If that had always been the intention you would have expected them to have build in way better choices long before for D that would make sense for her as Daddy 2, Daddy 3 and Daddy 4.

 

[Trikus]

Not putting them in. I am not a puritan but not forcing someone not to play them is not same as avoidable especially with forums that share information and things that happen. All wishes and desires are just as valid, in the end it is the devs who decide what will be in and get the flack for it from either group of players.

Everytime a sharing path potentially starts, there is a dialogue option to proceed or to avoid it. The dev put in a way for people to not see sharing content and a way for the people who do want to see sharing content. For example, in Chapter 1 Elena puts her hand on the MC's knee. The choice to reject her advance is right there. The dev will make the game they want to make, and that includes sharing. Swinging and group sex is not hidden in the game genres, so if you don't want sharing, why play a game that has sharing, then moan about little content when you don't choose sharing options?

 

[fried]

It does not go against all that happens in the game though before late chapter 3, where it seems dev team suddenly wishes to change focus of the game which feels very off from rest of the game and is still a stretch even with the development of D that you had in your analysis and none of the male options make any real sense. If that had always been the intention you would have expected them to have build in way better choices long before for D that would make sense for her.

If you considered that the game was primarily centered on D's growth, but hand-in-hand with the MC (much like Melody, btw), then it might not have looked so much like a change of focus

As I wrote earlier, people change as they grow and experience new things - you can't put the genie back in the bottle and often need to embrace it to better manage it in your life (or vice-versa), IMHO.

 

[Hyperserver]

To be honest: with few exeptions i am also a purist, but i WANT to have scenes like sharing and multipathing in there to have the feeling to decide something.
I rather have a choice and close a certain path beause i don't want it to happen (still know it COULD have happened if i would have chosen otherwise), than playing a game where the decisions are:
- fuck only D
- fuck D and no one else
- fuck D finally
- i would be mad if i fuck someone else than D
- Hell, yes, go to fuck D

-> you can only choose ONE of them, so choose wisely! (boring)

(Nevertheless NTR and bestiality would still be something i don't want to have ingame at all and could never accept to be in there)

 

[DA22]

Everytime a sharing path potentially starts, there is a dialogue option to proceed or to avoid it. The dev put in a way for people to not see sharing content and a way for the people who do want to see sharing content. For example, in Chapter 1 Elena puts her hand on the MC's knee. The choice to reject her advance is right there. The dev will make the game they want to make, and that includes sharing. Swinging and group sex is not hidden in the game genres, so if you don't want sharing, why play a game that has sharing, then moan about little content when you don't choose sharing options?

This game had no sharing from fathers perspective in chapters 1 and 2 and certainly not off D with other men. That is one reason why people are screaming so hard for sharing now. Like I said I am no puritan, I have and also sponsor games where cheating, sharing and even cuckolding happens. Just I am very aware that not having to see a scene is not same as not having to live through it anyway, especially with forums nowadays. People will come into contact with the content anyway, even if just through a happy player that saw D finally being mounted by a dog Games that are MC centered just do not go well with games that are NPC centered, both groups will never be really happy.

 

[Trikus]

This game had no sharing from fathers perspective in chapters 1 and 2 and certainly not off D with other men. That is one reason why people are screaming so hard for sharing now.

Olivia. She was attracted to him despite being in a relationship with her father. Graham allowed her to have sex with the MC in Chapter 1. Sharing with Margo was teased in Chapter 2 when talking to the lawyer. Oh, and the reason he was teaching D to be a good girlfriend in Chapter 1 and 2 was for her to be a good girlfriend to her boyfriend, Frank.

 

[DA22]

Olivia. She was attracted to him despite being in a relationship with her father. Graham allowed her to have sex with the MC in Chapter 1. Sharing with Margo was teased in Chapter 2 when talking to the lawyer.

Yes and where was there any sharing of D with another man intended by F? Hell he could not even have shared her there if he would have wanted to. F was just building up his own potential harem in that part of the game. Not creating a harem for D.

 

[jamdan]

Yes and where was there any sharing of D with another man intended by F? Hell he could not even have shared her there if he would have wanted to.

Technically, F allowed the beach binocular guy to spy on D at the beach

 

[SeveredRealms]

Each person has they own way of wanting to play the game. You all are really going deep here. Though I am not really into sharing her with other men thats the way I feel I want to play. Personally I am more of a harem/love enthusiast. It is not part of the game but I can deal with it without complaint. If a person wants to go down the sharing with other men that is fine the option is there for them and I like that Mrdots is making the game in a way that allows each person to play it the way they wish to play it. I would not mind if D was to spend some alone time with other girls as then it would allow F the same privilege. i do hope down the road options such as a possible harem or mini 3 or 4 person one should happen. I say this only because Mrdots has added so many optional paths for each type of player. As for a happy ending as in other games it has been brought up they could move once more maybe even taking olivia and grant along to a place or country that allows them to be married. Or as in sisterly lust the F can marry them all if that was the case.

 

[Hyperserver]

https://f95zone.to/threads/dating-my-daughter-ch-1-3-v0-27-mrdots-games.597/post-3866204

i suggest to move your own words outside from my quote

 

[blag135]

Since I can't search 1800 pages of comments, I'd like to ask if all three chapters are in a single download or are they separated?

 

[DA22]

Since I can't search 1800 pages of comments, I'd like to ask if all three chapters are in a single download or are they separated?

Separated.

 

[Krynh]

What is this drama on discord? What happened?

That was months back. Something between Hyperserver and a few other users on here that came from the discord.

 

[crugh2112]

Throws monkey wrench after reading other humorous posts: I wonder when D will meet Eric and have him buy her some new clothes and alcoholic chocolates? Maybe a massage?.... (Like saying "Live long and prosper" to a Star Wars fan.)

 

[Krynh]

Midlife Crisis: 2 daughters out of 10-15 LIs

There are 8 Love interests other than the daughters. 2 of them are also family