VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[Uthuriel]

I mean, its not like the Daughter is a deep character to begin with.

I mean none of them are... this is still a porn game and not Shakespeare but if I have to put my suspension of disbelieve to 1000% then something with the writing is off.

 

[Jeff Steel]

I'm tired of all the categories you have to deal with these days in the case of Martin. What's with this "polyamory bbc cuck NTR whatever" shit ? Couldn't you just write exciting scenes with Martin without thinking too much about how it shall be categorized beforehand ? Because that's all we need. I don't care about the "categories/niches" I care about is it hot or not.

Jeff Steel : I'd like to know if that kind of thinking was in play when the "super cautious" and ultimately frustrating and boring swingers club scene in last update was made. It could have been great but every paths the scene hinted at resulted in nothing, and some paths were not even hinted at all. And I'm not even talking of the ridiculous "Dee's not Graham's type" shameful excuse so that almost nothing happens between them.

This scene was the worst disapointment I had with the game recently. It should have been 3 paths :
1\Path for insecure teenagers, the one we had

2\Middle-Ground path : D jerks off the guy who wants to fuck his wife then reunites the couple while participating a bit in preliminaries and then leaves them alone

3\Chad path : Graham suddenly becomes a realistic character and like any 40+ straight male would jump at the opportunity of sex with such a bombastic teenager as Dee, even if "she's not exactly his type". So then a lot of swapping happens between D, G, F and G's daughter, and maybe a final orgy scene including the shy married couple.
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I pumped out a lot of ideas on this issue, primarily revolving around a smaller run swap event. The key idea and “Chad/wife” parts, for example came from articles and real world examples. I personally didn’t mind Dee didn’t go all out full swap, but would have preferred more “observers” of he by other guests which puke have turned the scene into a heavy exhibition event. Of course any scene with multiple bodies starts to increase render time at an increasing rate. This is none of the scenes that have been considered for a revisit at the end.

 

[Jeff Steel]

Hey I'm curious what was the thinking behind adding feelings and love into the sharing route? That does not seem to be characteristic of the sharing/swinging fetish. Of all the sharing/swinging games I've played, the only feelings (like pleasure) that matter is the MC and FMC. (But mostly the MC, i.e. you) The 3rd character, male or female, is usually use like a human sex toy for that end.

However in DMD, it's the opposite happens where the pleasure and relationship of the FMC (Dee) and 3rd person (Martin) that seems to be the focus. This (and others but lets focus on this for now) is something I expect more in NTR games. Its almost like theres 2 writers stitching the story together rather than combining it. Like writer 1 goes full steam ahead that will naturally result in NTR and then writer 2 reads it. Then instead of altering the story, just continues the writing by reigning it back in because "we don't do NTR here" rule. I hope you know this just pisses everyone off because no one really get what they want.

Now with all that being said, I have a theory that you guys are doing that on purpose to create controversy which results in lots of arguments. More people talking/arguing about it would mean more people trying out the game. I have talked to Mr Dots team over the years on here or discord and I'm impressed by how much work and research you guys do. So its hard for me to believe you would not see this obvious ahead of time and push out something this sloppy...

Look at Olivia/Graham as a swap path, and Martin more of a polyamory path. Neither results in ntr but one results in more of a bf/gf couple result (Matin) than the other (Graham).

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[Kryptozoid]

I pumped out a lot of ideas on this issue, primarily revolving around a smaller run swap event. The key idea and “Chad/wife” parts, for example came from articles and real world examples. I personally didn’t mind Dee didn’t go all out full swap, but would have preferred more “observers” of he by other guests which puke have turned the scene into a heavy exhibition event. Of course any scene with multiple bodies starts to increase render time at an increasing rate. This is none of the scenes that have been considered for a revisit at the end.

I'm with you about more people watching, at least that would have been something. Still didn't change my mind about Graham's behaviour. This really is a bad joke for me. As for the rendering time, I understand, but by now, including the money from his other games, Dots should have 3 or 4 3090 GPU or even better Pro GPUs. It's not like it's a massive amount of money compared to what he made in several years. I make far less than he does and I have one 3090 and several less powerful computers and GPUs.
It's regrettable that this scene was not selected to be revisited. I don't remember about a scene that needed it more.

 

[Cherubin25]

I mean none of them are... this is still a porn game and not Shakespeare but if I have to put my suspension of disbelieve to 1000% then something with the writing is off.

Sure, but if we boil it down, with her Father she already fell in love with a man she barely knew.

 

[Uthuriel]

Sure, but if we boil it down, with her Father she already fell in love with a man she barely knew.

True but at least her father is the MC, D is the FMC and Martin... is a side character... and barley in the game to begin with.

 

[Jeff Steel]

I'm with you about more people watching, at least that would have been something. Still didn't change my mind about Graham's behaviour. This really is a bad joke for me. As for the rendering time, I understand, but by now, including the money from his other games, Dots should have 3 or 4 3090 GPU or even better Pro GPUs. It's not like it's a massive amount of money compared to what he made in several years. I make far less than he does and I have one 3090 and several less powerful computers and GPUs.
It's regrettable that this scene was not selected to be revisited. I don't remember about a scene that needed it more.

If I said otherwise, I apologize. This is a scene Hearsz has talked about revisiting.

 

[cxx]

Yeap. It was definitely rushed and just felt awkward.

well once you go black no going back.

*RUNS*

 

[Uthuriel]

well once you go black no going back.

*RUNS*

 

[White Lamp]

Look at Olivia/Graham as a swap path, and Martin more of a polyamory path. Neither results in ntr but one results in more of a bf/gf couple result (Matin) than the other (Graham).

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ughhhh, that path type is so unnecessary when you add it that late into the game and for such a minor character with so little content. It does nothing for any fans. You guys should have just done the normal sharing route instead of swinging (no pun intended) in this many directions.

Your team did a masterful job in the main path (ch1-2) but really butchered this one up. The sharing route should have started in chp 1 with other characters (i.e. Elena/Georgina) and get the MC slowly learning the swinging fetish where he works up to Dee in ch 3-4.

Anyways, I know it's not your fault so I'm just venting here. Now that's out of the way do you have any ideas of what the 4th game is going to be?

 

[Uthuriel]

ughhhh, that path type is so unnecessary when you add it that late into the game and for such a minor character with so little content. It does nothing for any fans. You guys should have just done the normal sharing route instead of swinging (no pun intended) in this many directions.

Your team did a masterful job in the main path (ch1-2) but really butchered this one up. The sharing route should have started in chp 1 with other characters (i.e. Elena/Georgina) and get the MC slowly learning the swinging fetish where he works up to Dee in ch 3-4.

Anyways, I know it's not your fault so I'm just venting here. Now that's out of the way do you have any ideas of what the 4th game is going to be?

I'm pretty sure they wanted to add more "spicy" stuff but then oh wonder the majority didn't want it and now we are where we are.
Now it's too late anyway. DMD is soon over Sunshine Love still in the works and their next project probably in planning.

 

[Jeff Steel]

ughhhh, that path type is so unnecessary when you add it that late into the game and for such a minor character with so little content. It does nothing for any fans. You guys should have just done the normal sharing route instead of swinging (no pun intended) in this many directions.

Your team did a masterful job in the main path (ch1-2) but really butchered this one up. The sharing route should have started in chp 1 with other characters (i.e. Elena/Georgina) and get the MC slowly learning the swinging fetish where he works up to Dee in ch 3-4.

Anyways, I know it's not your fault so I'm just venting here. Now that's out of the way do you have any ideas of what the 4th game is going to be?

I suppose if your comment of “it does nothing for any fans” is in regards to Graham, you might be correct. If it about Martin, looking at the DMD Fan Art thread, Martin themed renders are quite common

As for 4th game, discussions are in progress but nothing is settled. Personally, I’d like to see an MC that starts more alpha with issues he needs to tone down to win the LO - a contrast with the MC in SL who has the opposite arc.

 

[Uthuriel]

I suppose if your comment of “it does nothing for any fans” is in regards to Graham, you might be correct. If it about Martin, looking at the DMD Fan Art thread, Martin themed renders are quite common

As for 4th game, discussions are in progress but nothing is settled. Personally, I’d like to see an MC that starts more alpha with issues he needs to tone down to win the LO - a contrast with the MC in SL who has the opposite arc.

The fan art thread is one of the worst hives of evil on this platform... All the dogs, Gorillas and other disgusting stuff railing D can stay there.

Also I don't know where you get the more alpha thing from... SL MC is a major alpha in being dumb as fuck. You guys nailed that.
Maybe tone it down a bit and write someone that actually resembles a human being.

 

[jaw1986baby]

I suppose if your comment of “it does nothing for any fans” is in regards to Graham, you might be correct. If it about Martin, looking at the DMD Fan Art thread, Martin themed renders are quite common

As for 4th game, discussions are in progress but nothing is settled. Personally, I’d like to see an MC that starts more alpha with issues he needs to tone down to win the LO - a contrast with the MC in SL who has the opposite arc.

If Mr Dots has a MC start out as a Chad douche bag he will lose way more followers on top of the ones that leave after DMD, IMO

He does have fans who like that but they are not the bulk of his fandom, IMO

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I suppose if your comment of “it does nothing for any fans” is in regards to Graham, you might be correct. If it about Martin, looking at the DMD Fan Art thread, Martin themed renders are quite common

As for 4th game, discussions are in progress but nothing is settled. Personally, I’d like to see an MC that starts more alpha with issues he needs to tone down to win the LO - a contrast with the MC in SL who has the opposite arc.

If Mr Dots has a MC start out as a Chad douche bag he will lose way more followers on top of the ones that leave after DMD, IMO

He does have fans who like that but they are not the bulk of his fandom, IMO

Why can't MC just be a normal guy? Why does MC have to have "issues"? FFS...just make MC likeable for once.

 

[DarkDaemonX]

Why can't MC just be a normal guy? Why does MC have to have "issues"? FFS...just make MC likeable for once.

Exactly, a realistic and likeable MC is what I want too, we should be able to relate to the MC, right?

 

[baka]

I really like corruption and sharing.
but the writer/dev of this game, they can not do it, unable to create such thing.
better they focus on fluffy vanilla and braindead harem.
the mmf route conclusion will be weak. I don't expect anything good here.

for me DMD is just the daughter that was a good model "x" years ago.
her model is still good but the story sucks big time. too much fluff and its repetitive. almost a chore to read it.

I really wanted the game to be a success and the initial plan was good. with corruption and sharing in mind.
when they changed the writer it became something else and the "effort" to re-introduce mmf is just pathetic.
I just want this game to end so I can forget about it.

I will play the next update, just to see how bad they made the conclusion of the mmf route.

 

[Uthuriel]

I really like corruption and sharing.
but the writer/dev of this game, they can not do it, unable to create such thing.
better they focus on fluffy vanilla and braindead harem.
the mmf route conclusion will be weak. I don't expect anything good here.

for me DMD is just the daughter that was a good model "x" years ago.
her model is still good but the story sucks big time. too much fluff and its repetitive. almost a chore to read it.

I really wanted the game to be a success and the initial plan was good. with corruption and sharing in mind.
when they changed the writer it became something else and the "effort" to re-introduce mmf is just pathetic.
I just want this game to end so I can forget about it.

I will play the next update, just to see how bad they made the conclusion of the mmf route.

I like how the cucks always use vanilla as an insult. Also there is no Harem in this game to begin with.
If you think that Harem which isn't in the game is brain dead while thinking how amazing and edgy sharing/corruption is then I have bad news.
Neither the non existing harem nor the sharing are done good.
No one is pleased. Neither me the vanilla enjoyer nor you the corruption player.

And yet people like Jeff still don't understand and try to desperately force it while failing miserably.

I think MrDots is at a point where he has to decide what kind of games he wants to make. Time will tell but I have low hopes that he'll do the right thing.

 

[Deleted member 1979085]

I think the best thing Mr.Dots can do for the next game is dump the writers and take the reins himself. This game seems like a random mashup of scenes at this point. It's not even about liking the fetishes or not. It's just a nonsense story.

 

[baka]

Uthuriel
I wasn't describing general vanilla/harem, but the vanilla and harem (for me its harem when the Mc can fuck multiple girls) in this game. for me DMD is the vanilla in its "fluffy" form. and braindead, means, u just pick some choices and u can fuck the girl, without much efforts.

and no, Im no cuck at all. I like to dominate.
but in games, I like corruption and I like to see the girl getting fucked well. if you see that as "cuck", thats on you. but I see that as the ultimate alpha, that he doesn't feel inferior when he "shares" his girls. because he is above all that. no weak-minded dude that is jealous because his cock is small. I have total control of the girl, and I decide what she can do or not do. and in the end, the girl's soul is mine, while her body is used for pleasure. but to understand that you need to explore your own sexuality deep inside yourself.

for me games need to have that eroticism and depth, otherwise its just vanilla. and the worse vanilla are those "fluffy" ones. boring characters, stereotypical that react like a script not emotional or intellectual.
games like Our Fate - A New Family is close to that, the writer did put depth into the MC. unfortunately abandoned.