VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[exazubi]

don't twist the polls like you want.

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that means: out of round about 1000 votes, only 1/5 voted 100% pro NTR. The rest voted "NO" or "if avoidable". So 3/5 don't care about ntr. It even shows that double the amount of the "100%-NTR-lovers" (114) actually refuse NTR at all (262).

speaking of bestiality:
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in total round about 1400 votes:
Only 229 of them want unavoidable bestiality inhardest form, 123 in minor form if unavoidable.
The rest is only ok with it if it's avoidable (so these are not bestilaity lovers, but more likely "tolerant vanillars".
Even 273 are completely against bestiality at all.
So even if you count minor and hardcore together, you only get 350 positive "need to see"-votes out of 1400.

So it's not like you said - it's more like the vast majority either doesn't care, or even dislike. And as long as there are more "dislikes" than "demands", we will not change ANYTHING. We don't screw away more people than we MIGHT gain.

Talking in general now and NOT meaning "you" as in Zehyr in person, more like "YOU" as in "you F95 users":
Nearly 100% of all feedback on patreon and subscribestar (private discussions with Dots and fans inclussive) tell a clear story.
And even some over here might not like to read this, but the only complaints and demands how things have to be or should better be, are over here on F95 - and most likely NONE of them are actually supporters. There might be a very few exeptions though, but we doubt.
If you are supporters, then why don't you message MrDots directly on patreon or subscribestar? Tell him directly what you think. He isn't over here at all to listen.
I tell you why: because you DON'T EVEN SUPPORT HIM, yet you demand things have to go your way

If there were only the few 100 people you mention, i would agree with you. But the facts are different. Considering the whole numbers, I come to a different interpretation. The fact is, MrDots has several 1000 patreons, but only a few 100 of them even take part in these votings. And among those, there's always the screaming minority of haters who are against anything but vanilla. These 100th voters face an overwhelming majority of other pateors who never even utter a peep. And they are not interested in these discussions. They just want to play and have content, regardless of the type of content.

That is to say, a loudly screaming minority faces a larger, always silent majority. That's the way it is throughout the forum, including on patreons. More than 100,000 members are listed here. Only a tiny fraction of them are generally active in writing in this forum. And here, in this thread, no more 50 people write anymore. Think about it

 

[zehyr]

I think it's kinda a natural order of things. It's more vital for incel-like people to live in-game their fantasy of "I'm the only guy in the world allowed to have sex because IRL women are evil boohoohoo-let's do a mass shooting", and so they are willing to pay for it. For us non-vanilla lovers (that doesn't mean exclusively NTR, btw), it's not so much a matter of life and death, we see there are more important things in life to spend money on. So yes, more non-vanilla people will just voice their opinions here than go and actually support Dots. We know we will always lose against $$$, but we are still allowed to speak our minds here so we do it. It's as simple as that.

but its wrong. A lot of players give money and are Not in the vanilla way or at least they dont care if some contents are more… spicy.

 

[Kryptozoid]

but its wrong. A lot of players give money and are Not in the vanilla way or at least they dont care if some contents are more… spicy.

Yes, but I don't think they voice their opinion as strongly as the Vanilla people.

 

[punisher2099]

Jesus fucking Christ d isn't real. Stop obsessing over a fictional character. This story is done get over it. Be happy they're giving you what ifs and stop fucking crying you hypocrites.

 

[Hyperserver]

If there were only the few 100 people you mention, i would agree with you. But the facts are different. Considering the whole numbers, I come to a different interpretation. The fact is, MrDots has several 1000 patreons, but only a few 100 of them even take part in these votings. And among those, there's always the screaming minority of haters who are against anything but vanilla. These 100th voters face an overwhelming majority of other pateors who never even utter a peep. And they are not interested in these discussions. They just want to play and have content, regardless of the type of content.

That is to say, a loudly screaming minority faces a larger, always silent majority. That's the way it is throughout the forum, including on patreons. More than 100,000 members are listed here. Only a tiny fraction of them are generally active in writing in this forum. And here, in this thread, no more 50 people write anymore. Think about it

i know that - that's why we don't do polls for decisions at all. These polls were made long time ago to get a general feedback of our discord users.
For really game related decisions, we rather talk and listen to those who contact us via patreon or subscribestar, as these are the people we really care about (for obvious reason). And if you read the quoted post carefully, i even hinted that over there.
MrDots got quite a lot of feedback in private messages. SOME of them are even people who ask if there could be NTR or other stuff. But the BIG majority doesn't want NTR. OK - they say that they are fine with it, as long as it's avoidable, but still they don't play any of that content at all. So why creating content for a few dozens, if you can make thousands more happy? That's life - that's business. Also MrDots himself is against NTR at all personally.
I even try to convince him to do 1-2 scenes for NTR in fantasy scene update, but he still hesitates and refuses. Personally i don't like NTR at all too, but i see the need of at least give SOME very few content, at least in fantasy update. So i will continue to try to change his mind - at least for now.
But if i see all the hate posts and demands and insults over here, i start asking myself for what i do that?
I guess even IF i manage to get MrDots to do 1-2 ntr scenes, they start complaining afterwards that there weren't enough.
I just get sick of all that - MrDots wants us to stay away from here at all - the heck, i slowly start to agree with him, so that those notorious ragers can do their thing on their own. Just feel sad for all the nice people over here who just want to get reliable informations and end being left alone.

additional info:
Your mentionned "Several thousand" are actually slightly more than 5000 (SS and Pat combined) - just to mention the number in case someone is interested.

 

[yltohawk]

If there were only the few 100 people you mention, i would agree with you. But the facts are different. Considering the whole numbers, I come to a different interpretation. The fact is, MrDots has several 1000 patreons, but only a few 100 of them even take part in these votings. And among those, there's always the screaming minority of haters who are against anything but vanilla. These 100th voters face an overwhelming majority of other pateors who never even utter a peep. And they are not interested in these discussions. They just want to play and have content, regardless of the type of content.

That is to say, a loudly screaming minority faces a larger, always silent majority. That's the way it is throughout the forum, including on patreons. More than 100,000 members are listed here. Only a tiny fraction of them are generally active in writing in this forum. And here, in this thread, no more 50 people write anymore. Think about it

If you don't vote you can't gloat.

 

[White Lamp]

People on here insulting people that play these type games reminds me of this meme. Go ahead and pretend that you're not as every bit of a loser as you make them out to be.

MrDots got quite a lot of feedback in private messages. SOME of them are even people who ask if there could be NTR or other stuff. But the BIG majority doesn't want NTR. OK - they say that they are fine with it, as long as it's avoidable, but still they don't play any of that content at all. So why creating content for a few dozens, if you can make thousands more happy? That's life - that's business. Also MrDots himself is against NTR at all personally.
I even try to convince him to do 1-2 scenes for NTR in fantasy scene update, but he still hesitates and refuses. Personally i don't like NTR at all too, but i see the need of at least give SOME very few content, at least in fantasy update. So i will continue to try to change his mind - at least for now.

Hyperserver I don't see the reason if it is indeed as you say. A small minority "wants" isn't worth it for Mr. Dots to feel forced to do scenes he doesn't like. (not that a majority would be OK but at least understandable)

I'd say Mr. Dots do what he wants and if what the fan wants also overlaps with Mr. Dots then maybe that could be a priority.

But if i see all the hate posts and demands and insults over here, i start asking myself for what i do that?
I guess even IF i manage to get MrDots to do 1-2 ntr scenes, they start complaining afterwards that there weren't enough.

This was very obvious after the reversal of cutting MMF route from chapter 4. If you give them an inch, they demand a mile. Just human nature to be greedy.

 

[wow！]

i know that - that's why we don't do polls for decisions at all. These polls were made long time ago to get a general feedback of our discord users.
For really game related decisions, we rather talk and listen to those who contact us via patreon or subscribestar, as these are the people we really care about (for obvious reason). And if you read the quoted post carefully, i even hinted that over there.
MrDots got quite a lot of feedback in private messages. SOME of them are even people who ask if there could be NTR or other stuff. But the BIG majority doesn't want NTR. OK - they say that they are fine with it, as long as it's avoidable, but still they don't play any of that content at all. So why creating content for a few dozens, if you can make thousands more happy? That's life - that's business. Also MrDots himself is against NTR at all personally.
I even try to convince him to do 1-2 scenes for NTR in fantasy scene update, but he still hesitates and refuses. Personally i don't like NTR at all too, but i see the need of at least give SOME very few content, at least in fantasy update. So i will continue to try to change his mind - at least for now.
But if i see all the hate posts and demands and insults over here, i start asking myself for what i do that?
I guess even IF i manage to get MrDots to do 1-2 ntr scenes, they start complaining afterwards that there weren't enough.
I just get sick of all that - MrDots wants us to stay away from here at all - the heck, i slowly start to agree with him, so those notorious ragers can do their thing on their own. Just feel sad for all the nice people over here who just want to get reliable informations and end being left alone.

additional info:
Your mentionned "Several thousand" are actually slightly more than 5000 (SS and Pat combined) - just to mention the number in case someone is interested.

i know that - that's why we don't do polls for decisions at all. These polls were made long time ago to get a general feedback of our discord users.
For really game related decisions, we rather talk and listen to those who contact us via patreon or subscribestar, as these are the people we really care about (for obvious reason). And if you read the quoted post carefully, i even hinted that over there.
MrDots got quite a lot of feedback in private messages. SOME of them are even people who ask if there could be NTR or other stuff. But the BIG majority doesn't want NTR. OK - they say that they are fine with it, as long as it's avoidable, but still they don't play any of that content at all. So why creating content for a few dozens, if you can make thousands more happy? That's life - that's business. Also MrDots himself is against NTR at all personally.
I even try to convince him to do 1-2 scenes for NTR in fantasy scene update, but he still hesitates and refuses. Personally i don't like NTR at all too, but i see the need of at least give SOME very few content, at least in fantasy update. So i will continue to try to change his mind - at least for now.
But if i see all the hate posts and demands and insults over here, i start asking myself for what i do that?
I guess even IF i manage to get MrDots to do 1-2 ntr scenes, they start complaining afterwards that there weren't enough.
I just get sick of all that - MrDots wants us to stay away from here at all - the heck, i slowly start to agree with him, so that those notorious ragers can do their thing on their own. Just feel sad for all the nice people over here who just want to get reliable informations and end being left alone.

additional info:
Your mentionned "Several thousand" are actually slightly more than 5000 (SS and Pat combined) - just to mention the number in case someone is interested.

Dude, thank you so much for sending me the latest message, please don't feel bad for people who are just venting their frustrations, I will respect Mr Dots' choice, I think we better not interfere with the author's own plans and wish you a merry Christmas in advance

 

[cxx]

oh this is fighting thread now?

 

[Uthuriel]

oh this is fighting thread now?

Always has been...

 

[cxx]

Always has been...

yea but even more now.

 

[Hyperserver]

yea but even more now.

normal - people realize more and more that DMD is gonna end and there is not much time anymore to raise fights XD
Also they finally realize that what we told them is gonna happen and all those who still kept their hopes up now realize that they are lost. well - hope dies last, but as they see: it still dies

 

[Deleted member 5614605]

Wouldn't mind seeing;
. Rachel getting what see wants and that is some rough sex with F
. A Royal Rumble orgy scenario with a new cast member entering a scene every minute

 

[ThaDude1977]

you’re wrong:


Take a look on the pool, the majority dont care. They are Not in a vanilla or ntr path. They just want contents.

and calm down mate, i’m clearly ok with the Team plans, i cant wait for the Dmd futur.

I never asked for a change. Everyone will have What they want.

No he's right. Because the ones that voted for the 100% avoidable option is the vanilla crowd trying to fair to the non vanilla crowd. It's not that they don't care it's because as long as they can avoid it they don't care if it's there. Other words you can have it as long as i don't have to see it.

 

[jamdan]

For the "What If" scenes.

- A proper 4-some between D/F and Graham/Olivia. There is no valid excuse to not have had this scene in the main game, there were plenty of chances until Graham randomly decided he wasn't attracted to D.
- A scene involving a dog. MrDots has teased this enough and should finally deliver (remember the early Ch4 post about a "pet" route?).
- An "NTR-ish" scene between Martin and D. The writing will be super cringe, I'm sure. But Martin fans will be happy.
- 3-some between D/F and Rachel. Rachel was a very underused character in the main game.
- 3-some between F, Rachel and Georgina. The only 2 MILF's in the game need a scene together.
- Alternative scenes of the modeling show orgy D didn't partake in.

 

[toxic4u]

Regarding the votes:



We have 114 (clear NTR) + 651 (OK with NTR), so 765 OK, with NTR (if avoidable). Only 262 against it... I guess in this forum we see these being the most aggressive, ignoring the 70%





In this poll, is the same. People being OK with it 229+576+123+245, so a big majority, and only 273 saying absolutely not.


Is OK if Mr Dots decided to NOT have this in the main game, but at least he gave the majority the "WHAT IF". So why the hell people who already had the main game with their wish fulfilled are still bombarding and trashing the others? Is very hard to understand why the hate against gamers who wishes to see Dee in different scenes, already gone to the dark side, corrupted and having fun with - yes, I will say it - more dicks.

 

[Kryptozoid]

For the "What If" scenes.

- A proper 4-some between D/F and Graham/Olivia. There is no valid excuse to not have had this scene in the main game, there were plenty of chances until Graham randomly decided he wasn't attracted to D.
- A scene involving a dog. MrDots has teased this enough and should finally deliver (remember the early Ch4 post about a "pet" route?).
- An "NTR-ish" scene between Martin and D. The writing will be super cringe, I'm sure. But Martin fans will be happy.
- 3-some between D/F and Rachel. Rachel was a very underused character in the main game.
- 3-some between F, Rachel and Georgina. The only 2 MILF's in the game need a scene together.
- Alternative scenes of the modeling show orgy D didn't partake in.

Don't care much about Rachel, and we can have Martin without NTR, even if I don't mind either choice. As for the dog, I'm curious to see, mostly how they're gonna write it. Maybe the dog scene should happen at the end of the most depraved gangbang ever, some LEGAL PORNO style one, with DAP and piss drinking, then after all this what is sex with a dog to finish it ? Because if it's just a single scene with the dog, I have no idea how it could be made interesting. But I guess since it was talked about for years, Dots must have his idea on the matter.

 

[punisher2099]

This is so funny, hahaha. So, in your opinion, being "vanilla" means you are loyal to only one dick. You only wish to see one dick all game You really like that one dick, I gather. So, people liking dp, or gangbanbg in porn are... gay? Your logic is amazing. Or is it that you hate dicks? That would either mean, you like lesbian content (so... gay), or you are a homophobe? Is hard to follow your logic, tbh.

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Regarding the votes:

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We have 114 (clear NTR) + 651 (OK with NTR), so 765 OK, with NTR (if avoidable). Only 262 against it... I guess in this forum we see these being the most aggressive, ignoring the 70%



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In this poll, is the same. People being OK with it 229+576+123+245, so a big majority, and only 273 saying absolutely not.


Is OK if Mr Dots decided to NOT have this in the main game, but at least he gave the majority the "WHAT IF". So why the hell people who already had the main game with their wish fulfilled are still bombarding and trashing the others? Is very hard to understand why the hate against gamers who wishes to see Dee in different scenes, already gone to the dark side, corrupted and having fun with - yes, I will say it - more dicks.

...because those people are still complaining the main game didn't include enough of their fetish. Let it go and enjoy the what ifs.

 

[jamdan]

Don't care much about Rachel, and we can have Martin without NTR, even if I don't mind either choice. As for the dog, I'm curious to see, mostly how they're gonna write it. Maybe the dog scene should happen at the end of the most depraved gangbang ever, some LEGAL PORNO style one, with DAP and piss drinking, then after all this what is sex with a dog to finish it ? Because if it's just a single scene with the dog, I have no idea how it could be made interesting. But I guess since it was talked about for years, Dots must have his idea on the matter.

I highly doubt the "What If" scenes will be that extreme. I'm expecting them to be similar to Melody's, with the bonus of a couple of them (Graham/Olivia etc.) fitting perfectly fine into the main game.

And to add to the poll stuff that is posted above.

It is highly misleading because...

The Discords definition of NTR is " Netorare is therefore being defined as: (1) the MC having a love/dating interest and (2) having another person steal that love/dating interest away via sex, sexual prowess, etc. "

Which is, IMO, the correct definition of NTR. And none of the content in this game meets that definition.

Even more so, the content the non-vanilla crowd largely wants is swinging & sharing. More content with Martin, more content with Graham/Olivia etc. Not NTR, as defined by the discords own definition of NTR.

Therefor, that poll asks questions that skews the results against the non-vanilla crowd by not using the correct terms. Which would be...

1) More Swinging/Sharing content is fine and should be unavoidable.
2) More swinging/sharing content is fine but make it avoidable.
3) No to more swinging/sharing.

And the results are already on the pro-"NTR" but avoidable side. Making the question more balanced would lean the results further that way. Just like the beast poll with being ok with the content, but it being avoidable by a large margin.

 

[DDDIsReal]

So no happy family ending with Rachel and D?