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Josh Spicer

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There's one problem with your argument. Patrons aren't paying for they game; they're paying to support @Palmer and his team.
I mean that's a pretty loaded statement. Considering one of the "perks" of supporting Palmer and his team is to pay for the game early I would argue that, yes, they're paying for the game.
 
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JoeSte91

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There's one problem with your argument. Patrons aren't paying for they game; they're paying to support @Palmer and his team.

If I don't support them, and I start in April, I get access to all of the chapters, not just the one released in April.

"But he's already released the others for free!" you say.

Nope - not chapters 17 and 18.

And Palmer - you literally used literally incorrectly! :)
As @Josh Spicer said, he's a game dev, they're supporting his ability to make game. And while he makes more than one game, my point is only that it would certainly be an act of good faith to give the game to anyone who had been subscribed when the game was meant to be released, since, if the game had been released on schedule they would have gotten it anyway. The fact that it was pushed back wasn't their fault, but they're being asked to continue to support Palmer in order to get the game. Since Palmer says he made the decision to postpone simply so it could be improved, it seems appropriate that those who had subscribed, who would have gotten the game if it was at the proper standard in the first place, will get it whenever it's eventually released.

By not doing so, you're kind of punishing the people who paid in March and rewarding the people in April, even though neither did anything to earn or warrant either. I would imagine that it would be better to encourage people to continually support them, which giving the game in good faith to those who have already paid would do, don't you think?
 
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jamdan

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These arguments about "are you paying for the game, or to support the dev" are dumb, it is always both. You are paying the dev because you like the game(s) and want to support it.

If you didn't like the game, you wouldn't pay. If you didn't like the dev, you wouldn't pay.
 
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JoeSte91

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...which is why I didn't make that argument.

Ok, to put it another way, people who paid to support the dev in March should be given the game as a reward. It was going to be their reward for supporting him in March, they paid in March, they shouldn't have to pay to support the dev for another month to get the reward.

See how the argument is the same and all I did was switch game for dev?

I mean, I'm happy to hear it explained why this is such a terrible idea, because, to me, it seems quite fair.
 

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It's an online game so there is no way to release it for non-patrons. Plus, people with a buyer's mentality instead of a supporter's one can pledge after a chapter is released and then cancel it until the next one.

People should pledge to support good work and see the bigger picture. Getting 1 full game (10+ hours long) every 1.5 or 2 years from a developer imho is really good if you like the results, it doesn't matter it they miss some deadline a month or two. Dividing the work in chapters or beta versions is just a way to reward supporters frequently. Again, people who don't like that can pledge and cancel or wait for the free version. Some people I support I don't even check their work every month, I believe a lot of people do the same.
You can pledge to someone and end up not liking/not finding very useful their content in that month, you're paying someone before seeing the product, this doesn't mean that you can get access to future content just because you didn't like it from the month you paid for. Supporters still got content for March - the new game.
 
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JoeSte91

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It's an online game so there is no way to release it for non-patrons.
I understand. I'm not asking for it to be given to us, as I don't think I should get it as soon as its released. I'm only talking about people who have pledged.

Plus, people with a buyer's mentality instead of a supporter's one can pledge after a chapter is released and then cancel it until the next one.
I agree, but that's also what I don't understand about what's flawed about giving it to those who pledged in March. Doesn't honoring that promise and rewarding those who supported him in March actively discourage a buyer's mentality, where as just giving it to anyone who signs up in April rewards those who are only signing up for the new release date?

Supporters still got content for March - the new game.
Right, but they were told they were getting the new game AND this game, so they still lost out. Again I'm not saying this for myself, nor am I upset about the delay, as I said, these things happen. My point of view on it is simply that the people who paid in March seem to be getting the short end of the stick. I understand that Palmer is under no obligation to give out the game, but fulfilling the release date to everyone who paid in March (since there's really no way to know who's a valued fan who loves his work since even the most devoted fans might not be able to afford month to month support) would go a long way in showing appreciation to those who had supported him. Asking them to pay for another month really just seems like its lumping the fans in with the consumers and punishing both.
 

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@JoeSte91

What I mean is that they really can't release it to ex-patrons who pledged in March. You need to be a patron to log in and play the game. They can only release it for free or keep it as it is.

I prefer to think that the last chapter will be twice as big, like 2 chapters in one, so patrons who stayed will get the same amount of content as always, just with some delay. To the people who could only pledge during March for some reason and expected DFD 19, then yes, it sucks, I'm not defending delays and broken promises, I guess that's why they apologized. I don't think many people were negatively affected by this though, and I'm sure they considered the risks of losing patrons with this and accepted the consequences of their choice.
 
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denzile3

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My computer is getting full. Is it possible for me to delete the previous episodes and continue playing my path with the new chapters?
 

Baxonius

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i need a file with chap.11 or 12 that not tell katy sex and date with heidi.
Chap.13 = i didnt get threesome sex with Heidi and katy. i dont want play again.

Cant delete old file or backup. it keep on old file.
plus where could i put file.?

EDIT: Nevermind..need Cheat code.
 

Baxonius

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i Play now on Ch.13.
Cheat code
ch13getkathytease -Kathy tease
ch13sexnow -Lily sex

But it keep says invalid ! correct code or what?
 

Fantabaldu

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i Play now on Ch.13.
Cheat code
ch13getkathytease -Kathy tease
ch13sexnow -Lily sex

But it keep says invalid ! correct code or what?
Some codes work just for Platinum Tier :

Ch13nothreesome - The threesome scene in ch 12 never happened.
You must be a Platinum tier ($20) patron to use these cheat codes. ch13skipminigame: Allows you to skip the mini game. ch13getkathytease: Get Kathy's teasing scene no matter what. ch13sexnow: Get the Lily sex scene when you start the game
 

Baxonius

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Some codes work just for Platinum Tier :

Ch13nothreesome - The threesome scene in ch 12 never happened.
You must be a Platinum tier ($20) patron to use these cheat codes. ch13skipminigame: Allows you to skip the mini game. ch13getkathytease: Get Kathy's teasing scene no matter what. ch13sexnow: Get the Lily sex scene when you start the game
Strange..in ch12. it work with threesome but now (ch13)i cant get ch13getkathytease and ch13sexnow, it just keep says invalid.
 

Fantabaldu

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Strange..in ch12. it work with threesome but now (ch13)i cant get ch13getkathytease and ch13sexnow, it just keep says invalid.
Like you wrote In ch12 this cheat code is free and work and is this one : ch12trio
In ch 13 the only free code that work and is free is : Ch13nothreesome

The other 2 you wrote hus for 20 $ trier , so it's norma doesn't work for free version
 
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