VN Others Completed Daughter for Dessert [Ch. 19] [Palmer/Love-Joint]

[Fantabaldu]

I just simply don't understand why he spends hundreds of hours building a custom engine that is worse than Renpy. It looks absurd.

it's absurd in my opinion for other Devs not to have a owner custom engine , not the contrary .
One of the reason ( there are a lot of other reasons here ) that Palmer have actually more then 6.000 triers is this is that nobody can copy his work ; Ren'Py i agree is more playable for a gamer , but to make a game with something personalized , it's really more difficult , you need superior technician capacity to be able to make

 

[Endrju]

Yeah, my hopes are low.

needlessly, palmer said he will release game in full on steam or whatever so we just have to wait. it doesnt cost anything to wait

I just simply don't understand why he spends hundreds of hours building a custom engine that is worse than Renpy. It looks absurd.

@rf96 @Ejhay
He has already wrote before one of the Devs some post ago abouth this things . Probably Palmer will release a full file with the whole game further on .
For sure it will not port in Ren'Py ;DFD is build with custom Engine and they don't have intention to change for many reasons and because to code all with a new engine could need months of work ; nobody i think will never make this .

i would definitely go with custom engine for my stuff if i had the knowledge. it sure sucks from customer perspective because newest updates aren't cracked but from developer perspective its genius, its worth it if only for the fact of peck in the nose to all the ppl who like to get things for free. its getting even funnier because updates are released for free but in later time. waiting is a bitch i know

 

[JoeSte91]

i would definitely go with custom engine for my stuff if i had the knowledge. it sure sucks from customer perspective because newest updates aren't cracked but from developer perspective its genius, its worth it if only for the fact of pimple in the nose to all the ppl who like to get things for free. its getting even funnier because updates are released for free but in later time. waiting is a bitch i know

There are reasons to prefer renpy over this custom engine that have nothing to do with cracking though. Although, obviously then the solution is to build a better custom engine.

 

[Endrju]

There are reasons to prefer renpy over this custom engine that have nothing to do with cracking though. Although, obviously then the solution is to build a better custom engine.

you know im always open to talk shop if you have those kind of skills or at least know someone who do hit me up,
that better engine sounds amazing.
im a fan of renpy myself and as we can see fuck load of devs despite their deepest desires of trying something new are
tucking a tail and switching back to the "golden boy" but once in the while someone is doing his own thing like for example mentioned Palmer. as we can see it works and couple of unsatisfied players like me or you can go and fuck the right off


you said yourself that

It looks absurd.

but i think you taking it so personally is absurd, its just a game and from what we can hear not with the best couple of updates, so getting all hard about mediocre story and engine i think its more worthwhile to play a game that is on renpy, there is fuck load of them. anyway i think we are going off topic a bit.
if you really want to try the game just wait maybe they will a bit rebuild the engine for it to run as one whole game

 

[HereThereBeMonsters]

tech dudes I am fuckedly fucked. I seem to have lost all my progress in this game. Somehow all my data was wiped, and now this game is telling me I have not played the last update. So I would have to start from chapter 1 again as all the saves are gonesville. I'd rather not as it is a tad annoying. Anyone know how I go about fixing this? Can the backup save files in the OP be used? If yes, how exactly (pretty stupid computer person here) would I achieve this to play chapter 16 and 17?

 

[rf96]

it sure sucks from customer perspective because newest updates aren't cracked but from developer perspective its genius, its worth it if only for the fact of peck in the nose to all the ppl who like to get things for free.

No, it sucks for the customer because the custom engine is worse than Renpy; every game gets cracked in the end. They won't get my money because of it.

 

[Avaron1974]

No, it sucks for the customer because the custom engine is worse than Renpy. They won't get my money because of it.

They have over 6 thousand patrons .... I don't think they will mind losing out on you.

 

[rf96]

They have over 6 thousand patrons .... I don't think they will mind losing out on you.

I bet I'm not alone on this point.

 

[Endrju]

No, it sucks for the customer because the custom engine is worse than Renpy; every game gets cracked in the end. They won't get my money because of it.

even if very tempting i dont want to be rude but like very helpful f95zone brother said

They have over 6 thousand patrons .... I don't think they will mind losing out on you.

our two votes kind of doesnt matter

 

[Fantabaldu]

@StrayWookie

Here the link for backup saves

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[Avaron1974]

I bet I'm not alone on this point.

They knew they wouldn't win everyone over but they have no plans of switching to Ren'py.

You are left with 2 choices, play or don't. It's entirely up to you but they aren't porting anything over to a different engine.

brother

I know my tits aren't big but you don't have to call me a bloke.

I'm gonna start getting a complex here.

 

[rf96]

They knew they wouldn't win everyone over but they have no plans of switching to Ren'py.

They would have win more with Renpy. I don't see what the player gains with their custom engine.

 

[Endrju]

They knew they wouldn't win everyone over but they have no plans of switching to Ren'py.

You are left with 2 choices, play or don't. It's entirely up to you but they aren't porting anything over to a different engine.

i think he will go for

don't

play

like that little voice in back of our heads, or its just me? hard to tell

I know my tits aren't big but you don't have to call me a bloke.
I'm gonna start getting a complex here.

ouch i did fucked it up right there didnt i?
hell of the first impression though right?

 

[Asator]

This is going to be a rambling rant on this trainwreck of a VN. Here's my two cents that no one asked for:
The first time I played this game was around ep. 3 and it was promising. Slow going but I liked how the story didn't just jump into "Hi I'm MC, this is my daughter/mother/totally-just-a-housemate-honestly, we run a diner and now I'm going to peep on her in the shower, after which we're going to have sex and not feel weird about it." like so many other VN's with similar themes. There was also no supernatural element or some spy thriller shit - Mortelli isn't sone nanomachine infused international super spy, Kathy isn't an alien posing as a human - none of that. Spoiler, I guess.

The characters feel grounded and at least somewhat realistic and fleshed out. Mortelli is a bit of a cliché but he's a minor character so it's fine. There are no anime-esque archetypes which is great because I absolutely loathe that sort of lazy writing.

The engine is clunky and the minigames a bit annoying but that can be forgiven, considering how good the models look. A bit exaggerated (as in everyone has a prefect hourglass figure and at least a C-cup) but it is a porn game after all.
Almost forgot! The slow transitions are an absolute pain in the ass.

The writing's good, the scenes are good - things are looking good. Good. Thumbs up. I'm hooked. Seriously considering supporting on patreon once I quit being poor.

Then the infamous ep. 12 comes. And everything after that.

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Like I said, I stopped playing around ep 14 or 15. I think I'm downloading these out of muscle memory and probably finish the story once ep 19 is out. But holy fucking shit does everything after ep 12 feel like a massive middle finger from the devs. I can almost hear them say: "Your support, interest and patience is noted and duly ignored. Go fuck yourself."

And the smug "Just play the two remaining episodes" mantra that Palmer keeps repeating doesn't exactly help. Like what the fuck's gonna happen? The MC wakes up in the beginning of ep 18, realizes that it was all a dream and we're back where ep 1 started and get to actually influence the story and avoid romance with Amanda?

I don't think I've ever been this happy to not have supported something monetarily.
Like I said I'm gonna finish the story but only because I hate starting things and not finishing them. I'm not coming back to this because of the engaging story but because otherwise there will be an annoying little voice in the back of my mind going "you gave up".

 

[Endrju]

They would have win more with Renpy. I don't see what the player gains with their custom engine.

duude! cmon man you do understand big numbers like 10 or 100 right? imagine 6k patreons do you really want to go that road? if so i guess GL?

 

[Avaron1974]

They would have win more with Renpy. I don't see what the player gains with their custom engine.

They gained 6k patrons.

I'd just like to point out that 6k patrons is a hell of a lot more than most Ren'py devs get so they must be doing something right.

At the end of the day the game is playable, looks good and (apart from a few plot points that grated on me) it's pretty good. They are making bank with it and have no need to switch engines.

I don't like dismissing your arguments casually but they really have no plans on switching to Ren'py. It really is a "like it or lump it" situation.

ouch i did fucked it up right there didnt i?
hell of the first impression though right?

Not the first person to do it but it's understandable, there aren't many of us on here. I know of a few that post and some that keep quiet about it but the funny thing i've found is a website full of perverts is more fun and respectable to talk to than most other websites.

I mean, i've had shit for the kind of games I like being a dyke I prefer female protag but i've not had any grief for being female which I found quite surprising.

Not gonna complain though.

Gotta love a website full of lovable pervs.

 

[Mytez]

Kind of a silly question to make in the game's thread, but I'm gonna do it. I stopped playing the game during the threesome with Heidi and Kathy. Looking back to some pages, I've seen a lot of complains about the story direction and characters, mainly Amanda, behaving completely out of character.

Should I bother with the game? Or just ignore it? I used to love it, dunno why I stopped playing it.

 

[Avaron1974]

Kind of a silly question to make in the game's thread, but I'm gonna do it. I stopped playing the game during the threesome with Heidi and Kathy. Looking back to some pages, I've seen a lot of complains about the story direction and characters, mainly Amanda, behaving completely out of character.

Should I bother with the game? Or just ignore it? I used to love it, dunno why I stopped playing it.

Personally I had issues with Amanda's plot after the aunt turned up BUT not enough to put me off the game. My partner is the bigger fan of it, she's the patron of it, and she loves it. She didn't have the same problems I had with parts.

Aside from how Amanda acted everything else is great. It seems to diverge now we've got tot he later chapters. You have to pick who you want to go with now, they are done sharing and it's time to decide.

I think it's worth it playing.

Chances are you may not even dislike the parts some of us did. Some people enjoyed it, only a few of us had issues.

 

[Mytez]

I think it's worth it playing.

Thanks, I'll give it a try then. I still need to find out who took the damn toaster.

 

[Endrju]

Not the first person to do it but it's understandable, there aren't many of us on here. I know of a few that post and some that keep quiet about it but the funny thing i've found is a website full of perverts is more fun and respectable to talk to than most other websites.

I mean, i've had shit for the kind of games I like being a dyke I prefer female protag but i've not had any grief for being female which I found quite surprising.

Not gonna complain though.

Gotta love a website full of lovable pervs.

thats very interesting point you touched on, im very impressed\surprised by that phenomen myself
here on site full of freaks and pervs like you mentioned you are feeling better than on main stream ones.
female protag you say, im guessing GGGB is one of them? im a man and i like those drawings...
but whats more interesting for me is the touch of female developer, for me personally difference between fem and male art is very noticeable. how do you look at it? what are your favs ?

Kind of a silly question to make in the game's thread, but I'm gonna do it. I stopped playing the game during the threesome with Heidi and Kathy. Looking back to some pages, I've seen a lot of complains about the story direction and characters, mainly Amanda, behaving completely out of character.

Should I bother with the game? Or just ignore it? I used to love it, dunno why I stopped playing it.

yeah i heard that as well, and interesting enough one of the characters you mentioned was my only interest in the game so imagine my disappointment, that said the are couple of endings so you should be good in the long run.
I for example will wait for final release and buy it wherever palmer will release it.