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PPE2RedDucks

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Main Course (Heidi) is good

The whole "Amanda sucks" scenario may seems deliberate to avoid Patreon banhammer, I can't think any other reason why the author made her so fucking hateable
Everyone has a view, and that's fair enough, as well as natural enough.

Mine is (as stated before) Amanda is not 'hateworthy' - and not only because maybe we shouldn't take a game of heavy sexual content - and not just sexual content, also psychological (troubled), & almost ... sociological content too (the difficulties of making a living when things, & the opinion of others, seem heavily stacked agin ya) - quite so seriously as real life out here.

I expressed a view somewhere above - I won't bore readers with the details of it a second time - that it's not altogether implausible Amanda could have her mind seriously poisoned by manipulators like the aunt - GIVEN the existence of what looks like damning, incontrovertible proof of the MC's theft from his dying partner.

But then, the other dimension to it all is, however your passions are aroused, please try to have some sympathy for the predicament of games developers. They try to weave alluring, convincing and visually appealing lines - sometimes against the odds - under pressure of time, under a storm of patrons' (and fans') likes, dislikes, demands & antipathies, not to mention shifting guidelines and threats of sanctions from online hosts.

It would be great if Devs were flush with money & had the luxury of several lifetimes available, so they could plot out every single detail of character & twist of plot of a projected story in advance... and merely had to unroll that completed work, bit by bit, to an adoring, abundantly cash-flinging audience.

But that's .... not the real world. (It's hardly even fantasy world.)

Yes, of course, patrons - & fans - take plots and esp CHARACTERS very much to heart..... Laughing at some (cackling nastily at the bastard characters - or warmly, in appreciation of well-worked humor), left cold by some, loving others, taking against yet others, nodding at one character's behavior, but loathing another character's guts to the back teeth, it seems.

TO me, that usually bears witness to how enganging the game's creators have crafted their game. I mean, why would you bother detesting a cardboard figure in a crashing shambles of a game?

So my plea FWIW is:

don't be too hard on 'Manda The Panda; or even if your heart is colder even than the aunt's ....

say thanks to Palmer Z/LJ & team for even moving you to fury! ;)
 
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PPE2RedDucks

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Main Course (Heidi) is good

The whole "Amanda sucks" scenario may seems deliberate to avoid Patreon banhammer, I can't think any other reason why the author made her so fucking hateable

Main course? Heidi is good for starter, main course, dessert, after-dinner drink AND nightcap ... AND breakfast in bed next day! :D
 

ANUBIS969

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Guys, i have a Prob or i am stupid. Hmm maybe both.

Ok so i did download the chapter18 several Time's from several Servers but in the End its allways chapter 17. Do you know the Prob or i am realy that blind or silly :eek:

Thanks for help.
 

ANUBIS969

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p.s.: i just did notice that the online chapter is realy 18 but i have no backup for it i guess. May someone realy nice could upload one for me pretty pls?
 

Only4You

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The whole "Amanda sucks" scenario may seems deliberate to avoid Patreon banhammer, I can't think any other reason why the author made her so fucking hateable
In case you haven't noticed, the whole (main) story-line revolves around her. So, I don't believe that's the case - unless the author also wanted to make the story pointless. And he's also made the MC spineless in the process. (I wouldn't complain this much if I could pull Amanda by her ear, bend her over and give her a good spanking before forgiving her. :) )
 
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PPE2RedDucks

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In case you haven't noticed, the whole (main) story-line revolves around her. So, I don't believe that's the case - unless the author also wanted to make the story pointless. And he's also made the MC spineless in the process. (I wouldn't complain this much if I could pull Amanda by her ear, bend her over and give her a good spanking before forgiving her. :) )
The spanking and forgiveness are two very good ideas - not necessarily reconcilable (I mean, if she couldn't sit down for a few days especially, Amanda might take a different view about who needs the apology), but yes, very good ideas - but thing is, patreon tightened up its T&Cs & upped its surveillance after this game was well under way. About Chap 9 or 10, at a rough recall? There seems some connection with a changed set of directions to the game.
 

PPE2RedDucks

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p.s.: i just did notice that the online chapter is realy 18 but i have no backup for it i guess. May someone realy nice could upload one for me pretty pls?
Not sure what you're saying.

Is it that you actually get Ch.18, but can't play it, because the game doesn't recognize you as having already played Ch.17?
 

JoeSte91

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Everyone has a view, and that's fair enough, as well as natural enough.

Mine is (as stated before) Amanda is not 'hateworthy' - and not only because maybe we shouldn't take a game of heavy sexual content - and not just sexual content, also psychological (troubled), & almost ... sociological content too (the difficulties of making a living when things, & the opinion of others, seem heavily stacked agin ya) - quite so seriously as real life out here.
It doesn't have to be ultra-realistic but if the player is to follow the story it still has to follow some semblance of logic. A character who acts like she doesn't trust the protagonist and then says that she does is either intended to be a hypocrite (either because she's untrustworthy or just manipulative) or she's badly written. From context of the story, she can gather that Amanda isn't intended to be suspicious or antagonistic in any way, which firmly plants her in the badly written category, regardless of what real life psychological or sociological morals we should or shouldn't take from it.
 

Only4You

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The spanking and forgiveness are two very good ideas - not necessarily reconcilable (I mean, if she couldn't sit down for a few days especially, Amanda might take a different view about who needs the apology), but yes, very good ideas - but thing is, patreon tightened up its T&Cs & upped its surveillance after this game was well under way. About Chap 9 or 10, at a rough recall? There seems some connection with a changed set of directions to the game.
That's all good, but doesn't the MC get mad? Isn't he a human being? He looks even more like a desperate guy trying to get into his daughter's panties at all costs (even his own prestige) if you ask me.
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PPE2RedDucks

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Not sure about that. Emotional intelligence, levels of implicit trust, & general emotional stability are not the same for everyone.

Not everyone recognizes what's going on in fact, in other people, let alone themselves, with 100% accuracy - or has a solid base of skeptical critical judgment that will make them deny what seems damning evidence, on trust alone.

And not all have the gift of zero neediness when close. Or for that matter, that of maximum openness & transparency when alienated. "Look daddy/non-daddy, you're guilty as hell of exploiting my dying mom, aren't you?" (Some would go into a shocked shell, I think.)

Plus, you didn't seem to take on board the other points I raised.

And then, the permanent dramatic suspense, to have that sword of Damocles of criminal and - worse - morally repellent activity hanging over the MC's head, means some prising-away of trust is perhaps necessary for plot? If so, we can set demands of skyscraping, three-level concrete-foundation plausibility above anything previously required in the history of drama ... but who was it said about a "willing suspension of disbelief"? If you're not willing, that's okay. But errrr, have a heart, or something? ;)

As you mentioned, this is not ultra-realism, or reality. I don't personally see grounds for a heavy sentence, for the MC ... or his creators.
 

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That's all good, but doesn't the MC get mad? Isn't he a human being? He looks even more like a desperate guy trying to get into his daughter's panties at all costs (even his own prestige) if you ask me.
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Maybe by Ch.14 or so he is but a shell-shocked shell of a man, a walking trauma awaiting the inevitable karate- or guillotine-chop of history.

So anything he says, anything he does, has all the sane rationality of a zombie watching a horror movie where the whole mob of zombies are getting blitzed to blazes. ...

Or maybe he is a guy who's fallen into such a hellish hall of mirrors where once his life had been, viagra is his only salvation.

I really don't know.

Don't ask too much of a game, is my final shrug.
 

PPE2RedDucks

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why is chapter 18 not mega download to nopy does not work my laptop show he it is not save
There are four other download sites, no?

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