- Sep 4, 2017
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Can someone upload CG for ch18? or extractor tool at least?
Everyone has a view, and that's fair enough, as well as natural enough.
Mine is (as stated before) Amanda is not 'hateworthy' - and not only because maybe we shouldn't take a game of heavy sexual content - and not just sexual content, also psychological (troubled), & almost ... sociological content too (the difficulties of making a living when things, & the opinion of others, seem heavily stacked agin ya) - quite so seriously as real life out here.
I expressed a view somewhere above - I won't bore readers with the details of it a second time - that it's not altogether implausible Amanda could have her mind seriously poisoned by manipulators like the aunt - GIVEN the existence of what looks like damning, incontrovertible proof of the MC's theft from his dying partner.
But then, the other dimension to it all is, however your passions are aroused, please try to have some sympathy for the predicament of games developers. They try to weave alluring, convincing and visually appealing lines - sometimes against the odds - under pressure of time, under a storm of patrons' (and fans') likes, dislikes, demands & antipathies, not to mention shifting guidelines and threats of sanctions from online hosts.
It would be great if Devs were flush with money & had the luxury of several lifetimes available, so they could plot out every single detail of character & twist of plot of a projected story in advance... and merely had to unroll that completed work, bit by bit, to an adoring, abundantly cash-flinging audience.
But that's .... not the real world. (It's hardly even fantasy world.)
Yes, of course, patrons - & fans - take plots and esp CHARACTERS very much to heart..... Laughing at some (cackling nastily at the bastard characters - or warmly, in appreciation of well-worked humor), left cold by some, loving others, taking against yet others, nodding at one character's behavior, but loathing another character's guts to the back teeth, it seems.
TO me, that usually bears witness to how enganging the game's creators have crafted their game. I mean, why would you bother detesting a cardboard figure in a crashing shambles of a game?
So my plea FWIW is:
don't be too hard on 'Manda The Panda; or even if your heart is colder even than the aunt's ....
say thanks to Palmer Z/LJ & team for even moving you to fury!
Main course? Heidi is good for starter, main course, dessert, after-dinner drink AND nightcap ... AND breakfast in bed next day!
- Feb 12, 2018
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In case you haven't noticed, the whole (main) story-line revolves around her. So, I don't believe that's the case - unless the author also wanted to make the story pointless. And he's also made the MC spineless in the process. (I wouldn't complain this much if I could pull Amanda by her ear, bend her over and give her a good spanking before forgiving her.
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The spanking and forgiveness are two very good ideas - not necessarily reconcilable (I mean, if she couldn't sit down for a few days especially, Amanda might take a different view about who needs the apology), but yes, very good ideas - but thing is, patreon tightened up its T&Cs & upped its surveillance after this game was well under way. About Chap 9 or 10, at a rough recall? There seems some connection with a changed set of directions to the game.In case you haven't noticed, the whole (main) story-line revolves around her. So, I don't believe that's the case - unless the author also wanted to make the story pointless. And he's also made the MC spineless in the process. (I wouldn't complain this much if I could pull Amanda by her ear, bend her over and give her a good spanking before forgiving her.
- Sep 5, 2018
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Not sure what you're saying.
Is it that you actually get Ch.18, but can't play it, because the game doesn't recognize you as having already played Ch.17?
- Apr 12, 2018
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It doesn't have to be ultra-realistic but if the player is to follow the story it still has to follow some semblance of logic. A character who acts like she doesn't trust the protagonist and then says that she does is either intended to be a hypocrite (either because she's untrustworthy or just manipulative) or she's badly written. From context of the story, she can gather that Amanda isn't intended to be suspicious or antagonistic in any way, which firmly plants her in the badly written category, regardless of what real life psychological or sociological morals we should or shouldn't take from it.
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That's all good, but doesn't the MC get mad? Isn't he a human being? He looks even more like a desperate guy trying to get into his daughter's panties at all costs (even his own prestige) if you ask me.
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Not sure about that. Emotional intelligence, levels of implicit trust, & general emotional stability are not the same for everyone.
Not everyone recognizes what's going on in fact, in other people, let alone themselves, with 100% accuracy - or has a solid base of skeptical critical judgment that will make them deny what seems damning evidence, on trust alone.
And not all have the gift of zero neediness when close. Or for that matter, that of maximum openness & transparency when alienated. "Look daddy/non-daddy, you're guilty as hell of exploiting my dying mom, aren't you?" (Some would go into a shocked shell, I think.)
Plus, you didn't seem to take on board the other points I raised.
And then, the permanent dramatic suspense, to have that sword of Damocles of criminal and - worse - morally repellent activity hanging over the MC's head, means some prising-away of trust is perhaps necessary for plot? If so, we can set demands of skyscraping, three-level concrete-foundation plausibility above anything previously required in the history of drama ... but who was it said about a "willing suspension of disbelief"? If you're not willing, that's okay. But errrr, have a heart, or something?
As you mentioned, this is not ultra-realism, or reality. I don't personally see grounds for a heavy sentence, for the MC ... or his creators.
Not everyone recognizes what's going on in fact, in other people, let alone themselves, with 100% accuracy - or has a solid base of skeptical critical judgment that will make them deny what seems damning evidence, on trust alone.
And not all have the gift of zero neediness when close. Or for that matter, that of maximum openness & transparency when alienated. "Look daddy/non-daddy, you're guilty as hell of exploiting my dying mom, aren't you?" (Some would go into a shocked shell, I think.)
Plus, you didn't seem to take on board the other points I raised.
And then, the permanent dramatic suspense, to have that sword of Damocles of criminal and - worse - morally repellent activity hanging over the MC's head, means some prising-away of trust is perhaps necessary for plot? If so, we can set demands of skyscraping, three-level concrete-foundation plausibility above anything previously required in the history of drama ... but who was it said about a "willing suspension of disbelief"? If you're not willing, that's okay. But errrr, have a heart, or something?
As you mentioned, this is not ultra-realism, or reality. I don't personally see grounds for a heavy sentence, for the MC ... or his creators.
Maybe by Ch.14 or so he is but a shell-shocked shell of a man, a walking trauma awaiting the inevitable karate- or guillotine-chop of history.
So anything he says, anything he does, has all the sane rationality of a zombie watching a horror movie where the whole mob of zombies are getting blitzed to blazes. ...
Or maybe he is a guy who's fallen into such a hellish hall of mirrors where once his life had been, viagra is his only salvation.
I really don't know.
Don't ask too much of a game, is my final shrug.
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- Oct 5, 2017
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Whoa, man! Put stuff like that under a spoiler tag.
I am reserving my criticism as possibly as I can until I've played until the end. I was just expressing my lament on how the second half unraveled so far, beating my head and making presumptuous theories for closure. I initially came for a quick fap and was allured by the story so much that ch12 onward felt like a slow stab to the core
Thats unfortunately undeniable yes. I theorized how Amanda has her own endgame and how you treated her from the beginning will be the deciding factor. While still hoping its the case I'm keeping my expectations in check
I worded my previous post too harsh. I don't loath her as much as many of the players here, I thought I was sensible enough in my contempt. In fact I've been doing a oneitis run with Amanda holding out for the whole picture (assuming thats a private flight in the ch19 preview pics I guess ripping off Cecilia was her endgame all along)
Nothing against Palmer & everyone involved, I've sang my praises in several pages before. I understand the time-constraint, limited resources, and Patreon possibly putting a tight grip over the direction. Sorry if I came off furious, and thanks for the reasoningsay thanks to Palmer Z/LJ & team for even moving you to fury!
Well, "fury" was a sort of hyperbole ...
All in all, I think if a game taps into people's interest(s), thoughts and feelings as far as this one clearly does with many, then whatever its flaws - most things are not perfect (not sure we could live with perfection, but that's another story) - it's a pretty good game
All in all, I think if a game taps into people's interest(s), thoughts and feelings as far as this one clearly does with many, then whatever its flaws - most things are not perfect (not sure we could live with perfection, but that's another story) - it's a pretty good game
- Dec 9, 2017
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Well i figured all downloads for chapter 18 are 17. Mean i download 18 and it tell me its chapter 17 not 18. Only download they did work is the Online Version but sadly i dont have a save for the chap 18 online Version i mean a backup from 17. Sorry for my bad english again >.< oh and ty for your help ^.^