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Ok so give us next another essay of why you think that's not really the issue here :4Head:
You didn't have to read (hence my putting the "essay" in spoilers.) And I think it's pretty obvious what I'm suggesting. But if it wasn't made clear, I'm suggesting that your remedies aren't fresh or innovative. They've been executed in various other works as I so carefully listed. The only difference between the redundancy or repetition in that content, and the repetition in the content of Immoral Desires, is that you are either okay with or prefer the redundancy of the former rather than the latter. That's it. And if you've been reading this kind of content long enough, I'm fairly confident in my assumption that you have most likely seen everything there's to see. That is to say, if most of this stuff is repetitive anyway regardless of one's kink, then I have a hard time believing that repetition is reason for one's boredom.
 

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You didn't have to read (hence my putting the "essay" in spoilers.) And I think it's pretty obvious what I'm suggesting. But if it wasn't made clear, I'm suggesting that your remedies aren't fresh or innovative. They've been executed in various other works as I so carefully listed. The only difference between the redundancy or repetition in that content, and the repetition in the content of Immoral Desires, is that you are either okay with or prefer the redundancy of the former rather than the latter. That's it. And if you've been reading this kind of content long enough, I'm fairly confident in my assumption that you have most likely seen everything there's to see. That is to say, if most of this stuff is repetitive anyway regardless of one's kink, then I have a hard time believing that repetition is reason for one's boredom.
You are wrong I read that essay because I fucking wanted to so I legit asked you because I'm interested even if is obvious :HideThePain:

So are you telling us Daval "remedy" for ID and SN is accurate lol that's not fresh or innovative just look at the examples you pointed out in your first essay Tal3sofDebauchery's Mother's Shame and Mandologica's Breaking Boundaries for example are like that , that category is small yes but still nothing new :BootyTime:
 
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You are wrong, I legit asked you because I'm interested even if is obvious :HideThePain:
What exactly am I wrong about?

The notion that your remedies are neither innovative nor fresh? I think I've made a convincing case.

That you possibly prefer or tolerate the redundancy seen in multiple pairings as opposed to single pairings? Well, you know yourself better than anyone, so if my statement was too presumptuous, then I retract it.

Or that you've likely seen everything there is to see? Again, if I was too presumptuous, consider it retracted. In that case, try out some of the titles I've mentioned.

So are you telling us Daval "remedy" for ID and SN is accurate lol that's not fresh or innovative just look at the examples you pointed out in your first essay Tal3sofDebauchery's Mother's Shame and Mandologica's Breaking Boundaries for example are like that , that category is small yes but still nothing new :BootyTime:
Not "accurate." And I didn't suggest that it was "new." The only thing I've insinuated is that it's less "repeated," which appears to be the measure for your boredom.
 

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What exactly am I wrong about?

The notion that your remedies are neither innovative nor fresh? I think I've made a convincing case.

That you possibly prefer or tolerate the redundancy seen in multiple pairings as opposed to single pairings? Well, you know yourself better than anyone, so if my statement was too presumptuous, then I retract it.

Or that you've likely seen everything there is to see? Again, if I was too presumptuous, consider it retracted. In that case, try out some of the titles I've mentioned.



Not "accurate." And I didn't suggest that it was "new." The only thing I've insinuated is that it's less "repeated," which appears to be the measure for your boredom.
I said you are wrong because you thought I was making fun of your essay explaining your pov, that wasn't the case at all.

Oh yeah you were presumptuous af

The key word you mentioned is innovative: of a product, idea, etc. featuring new methods; advanced and original, so basically new.

"But if it wasn't made clear, I'm suggesting that your remedies aren't fresh or innovative".

You are confused I never said my suggestions were new, I said that just watching Lana and Daniel was boring and also how about using the secondary characters way more with their independent sex scenes that's nothing new either I just want variety in the comic adding different interesting plots (nothing new either).
 
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I said you are wrong because you thought I was making fun of your essay explaining your pov.
Okay.

The key word you mentioned is innovative: of a product, idea, etc. featuring new methods; advanced and original, so basically new.
I'm aware of its meaning. Are you under the impression that I'm stating Immoral Desires is innovative? Several posts back, I stated this:

Why is Immoral Desires so popular? Lana has a gorgeous design; Daniel has a decent design with an aggressive and commanding approach; and the mother-son genre invokes subconscious Oedipal fantasies within the predominantly male audience. Do you believe Immoral Desires was the first to broach this subject?
Why would I state that and then turn around and argue that it's "new" or "original"? I stated that for content especially of this length, single pairings or virtually single pairings are "rare." And that if repetition is your standard for boredom, then Immoral Desires should be the least boring with respect to that metric.
 
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I said you are wrong because you thought I was making fun of your essay explaining your pov, that wasn't the case at all.

Oh yeah you were presumptuous af

The key word you mentioned is innovative: of a product, idea, etc. featuring new methods; advanced and original, so basically new.

"But if it wasn't made clear, I'm suggesting that your remedies aren't fresh or innovative".

You are confused I never said my suggestions were new, I said that just watching Lana and Daniel was boring and also how about using the secondary characters way more with their independent sex scenes that's nothing new either I just want variety in the comic adding different interesting plots (nothing new either).
Or he could actually end it and start something new with characters we haven't seen before instead of dragging out these stories even more
 

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Okay.



I'm aware of its meaning. Are you under the impression that I'm stating Immoral Desires is innovative? Several posts back, I stated this:



Why would I state that and then turn around and argue that it's "new" or "original"? I stated that for content especially of this length, single pairings or virtually single pairings are "rare." And that if repetition is your standard for boredom, then Immoral Desires should be the least boring with respect to that metric.
Now you aware that those 2 words are basically synonyms

Now you are assuming things , the difference here is I never said you said ID was something new in the first place.
 

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Or he could actually end it and start something new with characters we haven't seen before instead of dragging out these stories even more
That's the issue with inventing narratives as one goes along. Now it just seems as though Daval is hard-pressed for "new" ideas, and may be attempting to bide his time until he can "figure it out" or the popularity of Immoral Desires dwindles. I don't think he wants to let go of this series because it has to be, and I'm assuming, a large source of income for him. And with that, I'm suddenly reminded of the line from the 2008 film, "The Dark Knight," i.e., "you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." So it makes me wonder, will any of these comics have a "good ending," even if they don't extend as long as the author wants, or will they persist long enough and go the CrazyDad route and pretty much alienate all but one fringe audience? In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if it results in the latter.
 
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Now you aware that those 2 words are basically synonyms

Now you are assuming things , the difference here is I never said you said ID was something new in the first place.
So what are you saying?

And let me propose that we continue this discussion through start a conversation as the moderators are cracking down harder on subjects that derail the thread.
 

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So what are you saying?

And let me propose that we continue this discussion through start a conversation as the moderators are cracking down harder on subjects that derail the thread.
You know damn well what I referring to , don't tell me you forgot our little chat already.
 
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