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Very nice! What asset does that skin texture come from?
You should really use at least two spotlights so you don't get those hard shadows and the difference between parts of her body lit by the hdri and the shadows it makes isn't so bigI made about 5-10 different pics with different HDRI/Clothing/Tone-mapping but the same pose. All I used was 1 spotlight and a couple of different HDRI's.
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IDK much about color theory but damn HDRI's are good.
Ye HDRIs are great.. but especially if the light comes from an angle that the model casts shadows on itself you really need additional light sources.. lighting was my biggest struggle when I was starting out with DAZ but getting it right really does a world of difference.It was a very soft spotlight and hard to notice shadows. I closed that scene. I don't want to waste HDRI's on the same pic. I will probably create different poses different models with different HDRI's for variety at some point. Maybe at that time I will try lighting seriously.
This was just a simple HDRI test and fooling around. It was fun and I did create 3 decent looking 4k renders.
Looks like OOT Leony hair.What hair is that? It looks very similar to Lara Croft.
I'd start with the lighting..Alright. I will work on it. I will try what you said next time. I do feel that I have hit my limit. I can't think of anything that can help me improve more except post work which I am feeling very lazy about. I also have a TN panel monitor which makes it hard to tell how much light is there and how much I needed. Thanks for your advice.
Could you take a quick look at my DeviantArt and tell me where I could improve generally.
what is that bottom outfit?I'd start with the lighting..
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This helped me a lot from beginning to get the general idea.
I'd say post-work is very important. It just makes a ton of difference and it's not all that complicated. Best is I'd say adobe lightroom and you even have some basic presets there already ready so you just import the pictures and see what result you like the most and then when you are one day not feeling lazy you can play with the settings yourself and make your own presets for each scene.
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Also here's your picture with very simple post-work that takes like 2-3 minutes time . And I don't know if you saved it from daz as jpg or converted after but you should use PNG or TIFF they are way better .
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yes thank you very muchDid you mean the last picture?
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If you want simple backgrounds to mess around with you might want to look at environment assets that mirror more of what you see in photo studios. They will have full environments but the nice thing is you can pull out just the items you need. So this gives you a lot more flexibility. Here's a few I've used to give you some ideas:That was on purpose. The background was grey to balance out colors and intensity. They teach you that in color theory. White washes out color and blacks darken them. Grey is your neutral. I just can't find a good background that works for me that isn't a fully rendered environment.
Thank you very much for all these precious answersFirst of all.. great job!! Keep it up!
Now for the comments that might help.. i hope anyways!
1. I think that the lighting is a bit too much. The chair for example is overexposed!!! Either decrease the luminosity, or underexpose your image (change the f-stop or the shutter speed of your camera in render settings) to balance that.
2. The lighting is good, but a bit too uniform for my tastes. There are no shadows, no depth and.. well.. too much as i said in No1. Look at your house during a sunny day. You will still find spots that are a bit shadowey, some will be overrun by light, some other might be (let's say) normalish.. There is no contrast in the scene if you get my point. Try to create some of these spots. And by using an hdri for an indoor scene, i suggest you do this:
- First build the scene without an hdri. Light it as an indoor scene and on the render settings use: scene only.
- Then, when you are happy with the lighting, you can create your own hdri of the indoor lighting scene. To do that, you can watch this one:You must be registered to see the links
- I would do multiple renders on the scene. And let me translate this a bit. I would go with some of the scenes components (e.g. i would delete -well not delete but hide- the walls or some other parts of the interior) and light the whole thing with only the hdri. Render. Then i would hide the hdri and render the scene with all the components. Then later, i would use photoshop to bind all of them together and create the result of my liking.
3. As far as the realistic skin, too much light destroys details. I don't know if your are using any HD model on this scene (i would recommend it if you don't know the exact details on how to play with bumps and SSS -as i do-), but if you are you wouldn't have seen this on this bright image. Again.. No1. There are a lot of tutorials oute there for realistic skin management in Daz, but i haven't even gone there. It's too much for a new user I think. If you can get the lighting as good as it gets, using HD models will increase the realism of your images. Then, you can try and mess with all the settings.
4. When you say collisions? What kind? Give us an example or even better a render witout post work.
5. At the third image, where she is laying on the couch, the model relatively with the couch is posed a bit weird. Like she is floating. When things get a bit unnatural, even the smallest of details, our eyes have the tendency to pick it up immediately! It's just.. something is wrong there, even if you don't get it at first. Try to fix this. Don't be afraid to over-do a pose (e.g. try to sink her ass and her foot in the couch or the sheet). Otherwise it might be off world a lot more!
My first render was totally shitty due to lack of understanding of lighting. I watched like 500 tutorials on lighting, not only for daz but in general. I'm still a worthless piece of sh*t (hahahah) but my renders are more lifelike now. Most people you see here that publish their first render have on common mistake, lighting. And this is natural and I am not saying that they suck or whatever. I did the same thing (still do sometimes). As i've said before.. use your eyes and your surroundings to see what is really happening in the world out there. Combine it with some tutorials and your renders will be 1000% better instantly.