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fenelia

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Remake of a pic that I did some days ago and shared here yesterday. After almost 10k of interations and four and a half hours of rendering, I decided that I need something better than my GTX 1060 to continue my game.

Also the props of this basement sucks.
To me, anyone can throw more brute force at a render, but this is not art. This is simply throwing hardware at a problem.

Take your scene apart, down to the component parts. Understand what it is you want, and what the pieces are doing to your engine. The grain of the leather, for instance. This comes at a high cost. The bumps, the noise, the sheen of the reflection. This is all part of the sim your are trying to force through the engine.

The mesh light on the laptop. What is it adding? Why? Why use it in that format? Mesh lights are heavier and more intensive than points, but they are good for some things... but in that case, why? Why use it? Turn the laptop away, turn off the light. Add a point light if you want the glow, for whatever minor addition it gives you to the scene. Or, better yet, do it 100% in post.

What is the background beyond the sofa adding? Render it separately at lower res and composite it back in. If you were using DOF, I'd also say to simulate it in post because it's heavy on the engine, but it doesn't look like you're doing it.

Look at the scene, decompose it. Figure out what's in front, what can be rendered separately, then put it all back together. A one-button ability to make art? It's a lie. That does not exist. Rendering like that is crazy IMO.

Look at your scene and break it down, then reassemble it. Maybe you need hardware, maybe you don't. To me, it's a mistake to just think that hardware solves the problem. It never does. The scene will always eclipse your hardware if you don't fix the problem, which is scene assembly and understanding the medium.
 
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fenelia

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Anyway, one more stupid random idea...

Her hook up/booty call just canceled on her, right after she took one of those little sex pills.
What's a girl to do?

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This scene, I rendered while asleep, maybe 5-6 hours? Maybe less? I forget when I hit the button. I have near potato power in this day & age, an older Ryzen. No gfx card.

That was too long for that image. Too much fucking time for that.

So I broke the scene down for all future work based on this setup.

The wall? Takes too long. The bumps, the mottled surface. It's shitty on the engine. So what to do? Take it out, render separately from the girl and her dog. Then all scenes based on this camera angle do not have to recalculate the wall in the sim. I just composite it later. Render once, use multiple times later.

The same goes for the coffee table with the vodka bottle and the pills. I separated it from the scene, rendered it separately. That overhead is now gone. I can add it back in afterwards, no problem.

NOW, when I render the pair on the sofa on their own?
An hour maximum. Probably more like 45 minutes to get a usable render/resolution, especially if I downscale to 1080p rather than leave it at the render resolution (the intent is to do final work in 1080p). And that's a complex dog. dForce hairs, not a flat surface... harder on the engine than a person would be.

It would be faster if I had real hardware to do this, but whatever. I am a busy person. I have things to do. I can give up 45 minutes while I do other shit.

Why do all that when you can optimize a render to be perfect at one button push (after multiple multiple iterations)? Well, at this point, I have a production model to make an image every 45 minutes to an hour at 1080p whereas your one-button art render philosophy takes many multiples of that before you iterate 1 useful image. This is simple enough to manage for a VN, I think. Even faster for collaborative review process... tweaking tone and lighting can be done in minutes, seconds in post rather than hammering it through an engine.

Is it a perfect image? No.
I'm just illustrating one process, one mental exercise for breaking down a scene and making it better to render.
 
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Carpe Stultus

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Remake of a pic that I did some days ago and shared here yesterday. After almost 10k of interations and four and a half hours of rendering, I decided that I need something better than my GTX 1060 to continue my game.
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Also the props of this basement sucks.
I'll give you my GTX 750 TI Windforce and you give me your GPU. :ROFLMAO:

Thats looks way better than the one before but you could go and find other leather shaders and put them onto the sofa these textures are horrible. ^^
 
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oliseo

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3-Point Lighting.

So, I've been away learning and playing with 3-point lighting... It's taxing AF on the rig. But, once you've got it set up, you can switch between a daytime scene and a nightime scene just by changing 3 sliders, and the colours of the gels...

3-DAY.png 3-EVENING.png
 

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I'll give you my GTX 750 TI Windforce and you give me your GPU. :ROFLMAO:

Thats looks way better than the one before but you could go and find other leather shaders and put them onto the sofa these textures are horrible. ^^
The whole sofa is horrible, being honest. I think I will remove all the props on that basement and put ones from Parker Road or Luxurious House.
 

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Wildly unoriginal thought here. It kinda seems like a lot of the aspects of 3dcg erotic renders are similar to those in glamour photography--choice of subject, camera angles, choice of backdrops, lighting, etc. So to the extent there might be a lack of literature on posing and rendering 3d figures, there's certainly an ample literature on posing and photographing live human beings.
Most of y'all don't need much help though! (y)
 
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Wildly unoriginal thought here. It kinda seems like a lot of the aspects of 3dcg erotic renders are similar to those in glamour photography--choice of subject, camera angles, choice of backdrops, lighting, etc. So to the extent there might be a lack of literature on posing and rendering 3d figures, there's certainly an ample literature on posing and photographing live human beings.
Most of y'all don't need much help though! (y)
I'm a professional photographer who mainly shots boudoir and you are absolutely correct. Everything I've learned over the years I have or can implement into designing and rendering a scene.

Nice thing is, the models don't talk and can't give me their input in how they should be posed, lol, jk...
 
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