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Willibrordus

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Thanks, so you just set the iterations to a lot and let it cook until it looks okay to you then you stop it?
I am curious now, which pixel filter do you use, Gaussian, Mitchell and Lanczos etc. same question goes to other people in here. I know there's a difference but I don't know what it is.
I personally mainly use Mitchell and set the filter to 0.8
I also use Mitchell at 0.8 it gives a sharper result than the default values. (provided you get the focus spot on)
and for the Iterations I stick with a minimum of 7000 and just let it run to a 100%.
Below is one I did with those settings.
I never use denoising since that is a detail killer and then the choice of Mitchell at 0.8 would be undone.
Detective Linda (1).JPG
 

Atton563

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I also use Mitchell at 0.8 it gives a sharper result than the default values. (provided you get the focus spot on)
and for the Iterations I stick with a minimum of 7000 and just let it run to a 100%.
Below is one I did with those settings.
I never use denoising since that is a detail killer and then the choice of Mitchell at 0.8 would be undone.
View attachment 1739690
I have pretty much the same but I turn the denoiser on for the last 100-200 iterations since the later it comes on the less detail is lost.
 

Willibrordus

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I have pretty much the same but I turn the denoiser on for the last 100-200 iterations since the later it comes on the less detail is lost.
I'm able to get the noise under control without denoiser even on darker scenes like example. So I opt to not use it at all.
 
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SStyliss3D

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To all the guys and girls here,try to find more Realistic Eyes,it will make your Render look better ;)
(no offense)
 

KingCorrosiv

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I also use Mitchell at 0.8 it gives a sharper result than the default values. (provided you get the focus spot on)
and for the Iterations I stick with a minimum of 7000 and just let it run to a 100%.
Below is one I did with those settings.
I never use denoising since that is a detail killer and then the choice of Mitchell at 0.8 would be undone.
View attachment 1739690
Same except i use 10000 iterations for non VN renders and 5000 for VN renders (Time and quality balance)
Animations are the only things i use denoise for since you can't have a 180 frame animation with 5000 iterations each without having to render the thing for a week non stop. So i tend to use 300 iterations and start denoise at 280. It removes some detail sure but it doesn't butcher it. and with some tactical use of Lightroom you can even bring the detail back a bit.
 

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Angel-Pete: "I don't think they can stop what's coming this time."

Mama-Earth-Hanna: "They might. They get their greatest strength from the same source as their greatest weakness, being only human."

Only Humans [feat. Hanna and Pete].jpg

And this is the song for it
 

Willibrordus

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To all the guys and girls here,try to find more Realistic Eyes,it will make your Render look better ;)
(no offense)
We're open to more useful suggestions..
links to "better" assets than we use.
Names of Asset makers that create "better" ones than we use,
Examples of your "better" art than we make.
Whats wrong with these eyes in your opinion?
DB5 Villa Toscana.png
 
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DrkPhoenix

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Thanks, so you just set the iterations to a lot and let it cook until it looks okay to you then you stop it?
I am curious now, which pixel filter do you use, Gaussian, Mitchell and Lanczos etc. same question goes to other people in here. I know there's a difference but I don't know what it is.
I also use mitchell set at 0.80
 

Night Hacker

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Thanks, so you just set the iterations to a lot and let it cook until it looks okay to you then you stop it?
I am curious now, which pixel filter do you use, Gaussian, Mitchell and Lanczos etc. same question goes to other people in here. I know there's a difference but I don't know what it is.
I ran tests using those filters on other software (Irfanview) and saved different images and compared. In the end, i found the Gaussian filter to be the smoothest, uses more blurring resulting is less sharpening. I found Lanczos to result in really sharp images, too sharp as I found it also emphasized noise in the image as well. I found the Mitchell filter to be the best with a nice balance of sharpness, without overdoing it causing noise. So I tend to use it (Mitchell). And as I have stated in the past, I use the Denoiser in my filter settings as well as you don't need as many iterations (I find 200 iterations is enough with denoising) to create a nice image, and the image doesn't have that grainy noise which bugs me.

BUT, everyone is different. I have posted the following two images in the past to illustrate my point. You cannot tell which of these two images used denoising and which did not at a glance.
But one of these used denoising, with 200 iterations and took me 5 mins. The other one did not use denoising and took me 45 mins.... you tell me if it is worth waiting 40 extra mins? I don't think so....

Wanda_at_the_Beach 1.png

Wanda_at_the_Beach - 2.png
 

HawkyDawky

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I ran tests using those filters on other software (Irfanview) and saved different images and compared. In the end, i found the Gaussian filter to be the smoothest, uses more blurring resulting is less sharpening. I found Lanczos to result in really sharp images, too sharp as I found it also emphasized noise in the image as well. I found the Mitchell filter to be the best with a nice balance of sharpness, without overdoing it causing noise. So I tend to use it (Mitchell). And as I have stated in the past, I use the Denoiser in my filter settings as well as you don't need as many iterations (I find 200 iterations is enough with denoising) to create a nice image, and the image doesn't have that grainy noise which bugs me.

BUT, everyone is different. I have posted the following two images in the past to illustrate my point. You cannot tell which of these two images used denoising and which did not at a glance.
But one of these used denoising, with 200 iterations and took me 5 mins. The other one did not use denoising and took me 45 mins.... you tell me if it is worth waiting 40 extra mins? I don't think so....

View attachment 1740322

View attachment 1740324
Both are beautiful...
 
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