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Akabakka

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If that is the case, then he should have release 0.9.1 separately (combined with the previous version) labeled incomplete and lesbian path only update and the previous version separate (without 0.9.1) . The problem is he made it looks like it is the only route and overwrite the game without dev's approval, what if the dev miraculously came back?
There is nothing or at least almost nothing, that he "should not" or "should have done" over this. You're literally inventing a non existing problem here. Anyone genuinely confused by the situation, if and should the actual dev return, isn't literate enough to follow any of it. Let's not pretend that Tomato when back could not just release a complete 0.9.5, 0.9.9 or 0.10, a hotfix or whatever label for it and easily move on, without confusion. Especially when again, from current accounts, this is still Tomato's content being released albeit incomplete.

Let's not pretend we don't see around here, devs and studio remake and revamp their games all the time, and this case is nowhere close to being that. There will be no schism or real confusion, if he returns and updates again, it will just be what it is, a new update
 
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If that is the case, then he should have release 0.9.1 separately (combined with the previous version) labeled incomplete and lesbian path only update and the previous version separate (without 0.9.1) . The problem is he made it looks like it is the only route and overwrite the game without dev's approval, what if the dev miraculously came back? I don't care if he thinks that is the canon storyline, there are a lot of h-games out there that has a canon story or true end but it's still up to the player what content they want to see, for example, an RPGM game, female MC, the canon story or the true ending is female MC was not corrupted and was able to remain faithful to her lover until the end of the story but of course there are other players who still want corruption route for female MC because the other one is too boring and vanilla so there is the slut ending or the whore ending. Now since the game version was released without the Dev's permission so he should have taken responsibility
you are just insufferable. truly pathetic
 

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Guys what's happening here ? I don't remember when did i play and what was last scene.(i only remember we run away, and had reached the point where we could have Threesome)

So can someone tell me what happened to game ? I think there used to be a Abandon tag ?
 
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Just came across this one and enjoyed it for what it was. At this point if you play these types of games, you're better off going in expecting them to be abandoned rather than finished. In this market, it is what it is. Cheers!
 
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nimeyi

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For some reason I am locked out of the last scene between Juli and Eli, has this happened to anyone else?
 

Ero - Sennin

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You can also have the modder add in a second coherent ending since you are effectively ending the story before the ultimate Elizabeth/Juliet encounter.
Nah, it's hot but for me it's not the best, for me the ultimate Elizabeth/Juliet encounter is in the shower where
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and also I love when Elizabeth's hair is down. I am against unavoidable lesbian too, because I am playing a separate route, because I play depends on my mood, if my cravings is mom-son or bro-sis, I will play as MC and avoid any ntr or lesbian. If my cravings is some lesbian action, I play the other save, play all the lesbian route, thinking that I am the sis and I am cucking the MC. It depends. So I guess if I play as MC, I will just think that the story ends in 0.8, and if my mood is to play the lesbian path, then that's where I will continue up until 0.9
 
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My first time playing this game was this update. Kinda feel like I walked into a funeral on accident. For what it's worth I thought it was a great AVN, very hot, and intriguing world building. I thought the final words at the end from Ruikiru showed real class. Y'all should be proud you made it this far and created something of quality.
 

LinkBox88

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It's too bad it will probably go unfinished (especially since it sounds like it was just 1~ update from wrapping up.

Still, I wouldn't let anyone new to this title let that dissuade them from playing it. This is definitely in the top tier of AVNs (especially incest-focused ones). Emotionally rich, heavy in sexual tension and a truly gripping narrative at times.

If this is truly it for this one, thank you to the devs for their impressive work!
 

Wicks99

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DMS's situation is indeed unfortunate, but given the unique situation as we are only 1.5 versions away from the short end, I think it makes sense for Ryukiru to continue the last stretch after some time has passed to allow things to settle.

From an ethics standpoint, it will be hard to know for sure what Hot Tomato would have preferred given the unique situation, so I don't think it's really productive to continue this angle of thought. Of course one can argue silence doesn't mean consent, but this has also got to be balanced with the fans (especially those who made some form of monetary contribution). They deserve better than be left hanging so close to the end.

From an operational POV, DMS is in a much better situation than similar games or novels where the creator is unable to finish due to similar circumstances. We have someone here who has worked on the project since the start and whose writing style has influenced the the story presentation all through. Ryukiru also has the assets available and some broad direction of Hot Tomato's vision, but no details on the ending.

This is about as seamless as one can get when getting someone else to finish a novel, manga or movie. So maybe a good compromise would be for Ryukiru to continue with his own AVN in the mean time and allow another 6 months to pass before we get more confirmation that Hot Tomato ain't coming back before working on the last bits of DMS.

I empathize some might consider such a compromise uncanonical, so perhaps V0.9 and future V1.0 can be released as a separate supplement pack to the original V0.8. Those who would rather just let the story end "naturally" by that time in memory of Hot Tomato's work can just ignore the additions while those that seek closure albeit imperfect can get some consolation as well.
 

PaxHadrian17

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DMS's situation is indeed unfortunate, but given the unique situation as we are only 1.5 versions away from the short end, I think it makes sense for Ryukiru to continue the last stretch after some time has passed to allow things to settle.

From an ethics standpoint, it will be hard to know for sure what Hot Tomato would have preferred given the unique situation, so I don't think it's really productive to continue this angle of thought. Of course one can argue silence doesn't mean consent, but this has also got to be balanced with the fans (especially those who made some form of monetary contribution). They deserve better than be left hanging so close to the end.

From an operational POV, DMS is in a much better situation than similar games or novels where the creator is unable to finish due to similar circumstances. We have someone here who has worked on the project since the start and whose writing style has influenced the the story presentation all through. Ryukiru also has the assets available and some broad direction of Hot Tomato's vision, but no details on the ending.

This is about as seamless as one can get when getting someone else to finish a novel, manga or movie. So maybe a good compromise would be for Ryukiru to continue with his own AVN in the mean time and allow another 6 months to pass before we get more confirmation that Hot Tomato ain't coming back before working on the last bits of DMS.

I empathize some might consider such a compromise uncanonical, so perhaps V0.9 and future V1.0 can be released as a separate supplement pack to the original V0.8. Those who would rather just let the story end "naturally" by that time in memory of Hot Tomato's work can just ignore the additions while those that seek closure albeit imperfect can get some consolation as well.
I know we all would prefer for Hot Tomato to return and finish his creation.

That being said, if there is no return...

I agree with your point about waiting for 6 months (or enough time for it to be one year since the last communication from Hot Tomato) before beginning work to add a 'DLC' ending to give this great AVN An ending.

I would like to see the missing MC/Elizabeth sexy time.

If it was as good as the Elizabeth/Juliet sexy time we got in the most recent rev, it would be an Amazing extended scene capping the MC's journey.

As to the ending of the story, I'd like something that made sense given the trajectory of the latest main story arc - the invasion of this human survivor 'army.'

If Ruykiru was to undertake this, we'd certainly need to be patient as he already has his own AVN and $ subscribers to take care/be responsive to.

Whatever the future holds - we got an update and there was some great content in it.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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i would like to add 2 endings:

one where the mom and sis leave the mc aside and continue their relationship
the other where the merchant takes it rightful place among the mom and sis and impregnate them
 
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Of course one can argue silence doesn't mean consent, but this has also got to be balanced with the fans (especially those who made some form of monetary contribution). They deserve better than be left hanging so close to the end.
I would like to see the missing MC/Elizabeth sexy time.
If it was as good as the Elizabeth/Juliet sexy time we got in the most recent rev, it would be an Amazing extended scene capping the MC's journey.
As to the ending of the story, I'd like something that made sense given the trajectory of the latest main story arc - the invasion of this human survivor 'army.'
If Ruykiru was to undertake this, we'd certainly need to be patient as he already has his own AVN and $ subscribers to take care/be responsive to.
Whatever the future holds - we got an update and there was some great content in it.
Cheers!! :coffee:
I agree with the balance with the fans, those who paid deserve something too, If he can continue this and pickup the game just to make that balance, that would be great! at least there is a closure where MC will go all the way with both girls. The question is if he can deliver a hot straight sex that is on the same level with Elizabeth/Juliet knowing that this dev's Ruykiru's passion is lesbianism that even Hot Tomato cannot. I'm playing both route, non lesbian and lesbian route so I can tell the difference, and for me if you're not playing the lesbian path, and if it's not your cup of tea, then you are a missing out on a lot. I still prefer the lesbian route if I am in the mood because I can see a quality scenes ( there is one of the best lesbian scene in all games out there), while MC's scenes are just okay, its not lacking, just okay (maybe that will change someday,maybe) , just enough to satisfy me when I am in the mood for mom & son thing but still the other route's scenes for me is on a different level.

Oh btw the ntr flashback scenes are shitty that even ntr lover won't enjoy it :KEK:
 
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