VN Ren'Py DeadMoon Survival [v0.9.1] [Hot Tomato]

[dolfe67]

The pacing of the story was ok imo, it's a matter of taste though, some people think it's too slow. Pacing of development is another story and shouldn't be taken into account to judge the pacing of the story. I don't think your mother or daughter would fuck you even in a post-apo world where you're the only survivors. Unless you rape them. And even less likely, fall in (romantic) love with you. But as it's a fiction, it's ok to imagine it.

The biggest mistake the dev made imo, is to remove the zombie lewd bad ends. He could have let them in, even though he wouldn't have added any other after v0.5.

 

[Jah-Ith-Ber]

It's not just the pace of the romance that's slow it's the whole things thats incredibly dull. The game is supposed to end on 1.0 yet they don't even meet other survivors until 0.9? Literally nothing happens in this game for 0.7 updates. We learn nothing about what happened to MC, learn nothing about whatever mystical powers are protecting him, learn nothing about other survivors, learn nothing about why things are still preserved years later, learning nothing about why the zombies are evolving it's just blueballs milk milk shit.

I'm fine with slow playing the incest I've always felt that way is better because even in a post apocalypse that shit wouldn't go to the wayside incest is kind of like canabalism it's in our DNA to find it abhorrent across cultures but you at least need an interesting story to keep people engaged while you build it up and they didn't.

So much potential squandered.

 

[Joshy92]

Are people really surprised? I mean the dude lost half his supporters when he removed that zombie shit and it probably demotivated him.

And I'd bet he also got death threats from angry patrons. Would you continue working on a game that brings constant stress and anxiety?

 

[Rajesh Ram]

The games cinematography, animation and story was top notch, it was like a action movie.
But dude forgot it's porn game.

 

[balboa2151]

It's not just the pace of the romance that's slow it's the whole things thats incredibly dull. The game is supposed to end on 1.0 yet they don't even meet other survivors until 0.9? Literally nothing happens in this game for 0.7 updates. We learn nothing about what happened to MC, learn nothing about whatever mystical powers are protecting him, learn nothing about other survivors, learn nothing about why things are still preserved years later, learning nothing about why the zombies are evolving it's just blueballs milk milk shit.

I'm fine with slow playing the incest I've always felt that way is better because even in a post apocalypse that shit wouldn't go to the wayside incest is kind of like canabalism it's in our DNA to find it abhorrent across cultures but you at least need an interesting story to keep people engaged while you build it up and they didn't.

So much potential squandered.

I know that the game wasn't a finished product but that's what also disappointed me the most was that it took forever for the MC to have sex with his mother and daughter and it was only one scene each and then MC distanced himself from them. Hopefully Darreau91 is correct and Bush King gives us lovers of this game a complete ending...more sex and pregnancy

 

[Joshy92]

I feel like it sounded like I was talking trash against the dev in my last post so I should clarify I certainly didnt mean for it to sound that way.

We all know how expensive and time consuming these games are and no matter who the dev losing all those subs and even the whole page itself would hurt.

So I would completely understand if he dropped the game. Hot tomato dude wherever you are I hope you are happy and content that is what matters.

 

[BeastMaster59]

I don't really know why all this fussing and bashing is all about, but I don`t really give a shit either, I just want to thank Ruykiru for his great Job, and of keeping this Game alive, also about informing us of the development of the Game, and also about Hot Tomato, whatever reasons he has for dropping out of the Game, we might never know, still for me it is sad of what has happend to this Game....whatever reasons that may be.
So folks, you can return to your bashing or whatever you want to call it.

 

[the_fluff]

Damn, it's a shame that I discovered this so late. The slow burn was a bit too slow in my opinion but it was good. And I don't like the forced lesbian scene, I don't know how that could be considered a correct decision after everything being a choice before. But shit happens it is what it is.

It was still good of Ruykiru who went out of their way to give something even though they didn't have to(even if I hated the forced lesbian). Good on you. It's a shame about what's happening, but maybe there will be something good.

 

[Vibesy]

Damn, it's a shame that I discovered this so late. The slow burn was a bit too slow in my opinion but it was good. And I don't like the forced lesbian scene, I don't know how that could be considered a correct decision after everything being a choice before. But shit happens it is what it is.

It was still good of Ruykiru who went out of their way to give something even though they didn't have to(even if I hated the forced lesbian). Good on you. It's a shame about what's happening, but maybe there will be something good.

Yes it's an amazing game, the best by far I've seen in the incest genre. What was the forced lesbian scene? The final scene? If so, I think it's because player choices weren't taken into account in the last chapter that Ruykiru managed to slap together.

 

[the_fluff]

Yes it's an amazing game, the best by far I've seen in the incest genre. What was the forced lesbian scene? The final scene? If so, I think it's because player choices weren't taken into account in the last chapter that Ruykiru managed to slap together.

Yeah, like i said. I didn't like it but Ruykiru did go out of their way to do it with what they had available and I respect that.

I don't like it one bit but I understand.

 

[Vortex@]

Update was bad, sigh. Kudos for trying though. Disregarding everyone's previous choices

 

[indio68]

damn not 1 of my save works...this is bad... thought save from 0.8 would work..uff i don't have the strenght to start over again

 

[indio68]

ok i being able to play form a not so recent save , but nmow that i finishjed this update , more than before , i'm so sad i can't see anymore of this fantastic game. yes, many things are not explained ,and maybe hot tomato will come back or Ruykiro will complete this (i really hope so) but i'd like to know more about what happened to MC...why it seems that he was a Killer before..and why he lost memory of that...this is not clear and it's a big turning point...and i hope Ruykiro will finish this great game. don't really know how such a great VN didn't get more supporters ,but to me it's a great one and i want to know how it ends.. but not a rushed end please.

 

[checker201]

Fair, because I didn't have most of the original project files. But what about the animations? Do they actually play as a video file like this below?

Wait, I just read the whole thing and didn't realize there were animations. Geeze. Serves me right for not downloading the update.

 

[EvolutionKills]

You just disrespected the hell out of the proof readers in game messages so how is that not indirectly responding to him? You cant just take shots at a guy and not expect a response.

Going by your reference to Stalker 2 and Ubisoft being Ubisoft, those games were developed by a team of developers and not a solo person doing 85% of the work on the game and a proof reader/translator. Stalker 2 is a very unique situation since France is only being invaded by Macrons stupidity not an actual war time invasion/terrorism. No way that translates to this games situation.

Dev is from France and the proof reader is from Spain, English aint their first language and stuff is going to come across stiff or "cringe" in writing.

Well I disagree on the 40 year old rant and all of its context. This was the proof reader attempting to to duct tape closure for fans after the Dev ghosted everyone... including the proof reader. 0.9 update was not created by Tomato, who was doing the heavy lifting for this game. Your entire thing was... naive disrespect since you dont appear have the full grasp of the situation after the removal of the zombie sex.

Indeed I don't care. I haven't played this game at all since the original dev announced the end of monster content. My original post was responding to someone who appeared to have posted an in-game screenshot, and it was just my take on seeing something that absolutely flabbergasted me. That's it. All the rest of this forum drama you are all are caught up in, and expect me to know or have a stake in? Don't know, or care. Literally zero fucks given.

 

[Ruykiru]

Indeed I don't care. I haven't played this game at all since the original dev announced the end of monster content. My original post was responding to someone who appeared to have posted an in-game screenshot, and it was just my take on seeing something that absolutely flabbergasted me. That's it. All the rest of this forum drama you are all are caught up in, and expect me to know or have a stake in? Don't know, or care. Literally zero fucks given.

Then bye-bye! We are talking about the 0.9 update here, not 2 years ago in 0.4 or however long ago that removal of content was. Lot's of things happened since then...

 

[EvolutionKills]

But you are? You are attacking my reading comprehension and yet you didn't even read my username and realised it's the same as as the person writing the disclaimer texts in 0.9. Look at my signature again. I'm the co-dev and the person who released this last update and wrote that message you called cringe.

So yeah, if you got anything to say then I'm the guy. But please, if you do answer, don't go on an endless unrelated emotional rant again if you wanna have a civil conversation with me.

I'm sorry, I was responding to a screenshot. You didn't seem to get that, so whatever context might have been in the game I wasn't privy to. Again, please actually read and comprehend what I actually wrote, and not just assume things. Lemme quote myself, as you didn't seem to get it the first time around.

"Holy shit, is that an actual in-game message from the developer? Cause that is a serious case of 'getting high on your own supply'. I was just poking around out of curiosity, as I had largely written the game off after the dev disavowed the monster scenes..."

That screenshot didn't have any indication you were the author. I saw you were some sort of dev (Sinful Summer =/= Deadmoon Surival), and it's not uncommon to see them cross-pollinate other game's discussion, or circle the wagons and defend each other from criticism. So whatever, you wouldn't be the first dev to seemingly come to the defense of another, so I didn't bat an eye. But no, I'm supposed to also comb over your entire signature, see in the fine text that you're a co-developer for a different game, and also intuit that you are the author of the specific content in the screenshot? As someone not personally invested in this game's development drama, that is all a bit much. Again, I didn't play the content, nor did I ever claimed to have. As I already said, I was bored and just sorta rubbernecking in this thread until that screenshot caught my attention. My post is and was a response to a specific screenshot, a jaw-droppingly bad admission from the author.

We'll also gloss over how I largely agreed with the sentiment of the later half of the screenshot: F95 is filled with slop hogs with no taste for quality. A lot of low-effort shit manages to rise to the top, while other projects with much more heart and talent fall by the wayside. That's all still true, regardless you don't whinge about it in game to your audience. Does Ridley Scott stop their movies midway to have a narrator bitch to the audience about the audience's lack of appreciation for the director's talent? No. I hope I don't need to explain why. Also pointing all of that out is just a statement of reality, it was in no way a judgement on overall quality of the game past or present. I had checked out early because of pacing issues and direction shift, but that's not an indictment on the overall quality of the game at present (which I don't actually have an opinion on, cause again, I haven't played it). The stuff that I had played back in the day was well made, and clearly the person making it had talent and cared. But even 'good' games can have people bounce off of them, check out, or loose interests for various reasons outside of the overall 'quality' of a project. Again, I was slagging off the audience here on F95 by decrying their love and defense of generative AI, and you thought that was criticism directed at this project?

But yeah, if you wrote that message to the audience in the screenshot I was originally responding to, then you are the source of some peak 40 something divorced dad energy level cringe. I have no idea if you're a good dev or not, and I don't have an opinion on your content. But I stand by my assessment of the screenshot's content, and by extension what it says about you as a creative if you wish to claim ownership of it. Want to prove me wrong? Don't whinge at your audience in-game because of perceived criticism. Maybe don't fly off the handle at criticism not actually directed at you? Again, why get defensive about slow pacing for the parts you didn't actually create?

I am more than capable of being civil, but that only works when people honestly respond to what I actually write and not what they assumed I did.

 

[Vibesy]

Does Ridley Scott stop their movies midway to have a narrator bitch to the audience about the audience's lack of appreciation for the director's talent? No. I hope I don't need to explain why.

It was an unofficial release of a draft update from someone who assisted with the game. If he wanted to put a heartfelt message that explained why he was upset at seeing the game die that's his business. And there were already similar narrator interludes like that in previous versions. You should be thanking him for releasing that rough cut. But since you didn't play it, you should STFU!

But yeah, if you wrote that message to the audience in the screenshot I was originally responding to, then you are the source of some peak 40 something divorced dad energy level cringe. I have no idea if you're a good dev or not, and I don't have an opinion on your content.

Go fuck yourself. No one cares about your opinion. Coming in here and attacking a dude for putting in the effort and work to release scenes for the game, that you didn't even give the courtesy of playing, is way the fuck out of line.

 

[Darreau91]

I'm sorry, I was responding to a screenshot. You didn't seem to get that, so whatever context might have been in the game I wasn't privy to. Again, please actually read and comprehend what I actually wrote, and not just assume things. Lemme quote myself, as you didn't seem to get it the first time around.

"Holy shit, is that an actual in-game message from the developer? Cause that is a serious case of 'getting high on your own supply'. I was just poking around out of curiosity, as I had largely written the game off after the dev disavowed the monster scenes..."

That screenshot didn't have any indication you were the author. I saw you were some sort of dev (Sinful Summer =/= Deadmoon Surival), and it's not uncommon to see them cross-pollinate other game's discussion, or circle the wagons and defend each other from criticism. So whatever, you wouldn't be the first dev to seemingly come to the defense of another, so I didn't bat an eye. But no, I'm supposed to also comb over your entire signature, see in the fine text that you're a co-developer for a different game, and also intuit that you are the author of the specific content in the screenshot? As someone not personally invested in this game's development drama, that is all a bit much. Again, I didn't play the content, nor did I ever claimed to have. As I already said, I was bored and just sorta rubbernecking in this thread until that screenshot caught my attention. My post is and was a response to a specific screenshot, a jaw-droppingly bad admission from the author.

We'll also gloss over how I largely agreed with the sentiment of the later half of the screenshot: F95 is filled with slop hogs with no taste for quality. A lot of low-effort shit manages to rise to the top, while other projects with much more heart and talent fall by the wayside. That's all still true, regardless you don't whinge about it in game to your audience. Does Ridley Scott stop their movies midway to have a narrator bitch to the audience about the audience's lack of appreciation for the director's talent? No. I hope I don't need to explain why. Also pointing all of that out is just a statement of reality, it was in no way a judgement on overall quality of the game past or present. I had checked out early because of pacing issues and direction shift, but that's not an indictment on the overall quality of the game at present (which I don't actually have an opinion on, cause again, I haven't played it). The stuff that I had played back in the day was well made, and clearly the person making it had talent and cared. But even 'good' games can have people bounce off of them, check out, or loose interests for various reasons outside of the overall 'quality' of a project. Again, I was slagging off the audience here on F95 by decrying their love and defense of generative AI, and you thought that was criticism directed at this project?

But yeah, if you wrote that message to the audience in the screenshot I was originally responding to, then you are the source of some peak 40 something divorced dad energy level cringe. I have no idea if you're a good dev or not, and I don't have an opinion on your content. But I stand by my assessment of the screenshot's content, and by extension what it says about you as a creative if you wish to claim ownership of it. Want to prove me wrong? Don't whinge at your audience in-game because of perceived criticism. Maybe don't fly off the handle at criticism not actually directed at you? Again, why get defensive about slow pacing for the parts you didn't actually create?

I am more than capable of being civil, but that only works when people honestly respond to what I actually write and not what they assumed I did.

Bruh…

“I don’t care!”

*Proceeeds to write a book showing he does indeed care*

Is this the ever illusive reading comprehension running away from my brain cell?

 

[Ruykiru]

Bruh…

“I don’t care!”

*Proceeeds to write a book showing he does indeed care*

Is this the ever illusive reading comprehension running away from my brain cell?

I was fishing for another pointless wall of text with the "lets have a civil discussion" thing I said...
I can confirm the lure worked.

Jokes aside, I don't have a reason to talk with someone who isn't even here to discuss the actual game and just rants forever about a random screenshot without context. Great for me though, another one went into ignore list.