Yeah right. All of these developers might as well be sharing one brain cell with how cliche their games are and how hard they fail.Plenty of other games that can fulfill your interests.
Yeah right. All of these developers might as well be sharing one brain cell with how cliche their games are and how hard they fail.Plenty of other games that can fulfill your interests.
fairly certain there was different dialog based on choices either way if my previous choices wont matter or if it is as you said an illusion of choice all along i have no interest in this update or continuation of this game.What part of the dev is gone, and I turned the last part into a kinetic novel with what I consider canon choices to make it easier for me to at least give it an ending if I ever decided to do so, did you not understand in the disclaimers?
Also if you play the game again and pay attention, you might notice that even if the lesbian or Elisabeth flashback cheating scenes are not shown if you don't pick them, they are clearly implied to still happen or the story and sexual tension kinda makes no sense... I always saw the choices in DMS as a compromise to give the illusion of choice (except the ones that actually lead to game over scenes I guess), but making a non kinetic novel is hard and way more time consuming so not even HotTomato could tie all loose ends.
And I would love recommendations for a dark mother-son incest game where they're the only two characters in it. But every single time, there always has to be some other obligatory side bitch in the story like a sister, aunt, cousin, girlfriend, neighbor, childhood friend, etc. Every game that ever comes close to avoiding that harem trash gets abandoned. And if a good mother-son incest game wasn't rare enough, try finding ANY mother-daughter incest porn of ANY kind in literally anything. Woman on girl is as rare as it gets, and when it does happen, more often than not they look the same age and have the same body type. Even this game couldn't be bothered to let the daughter have a bald cunt to contrast with her mom's deliciously hairy one.I would love recommendations for any slow burn mom son sister honey select games featuring zombies you may know of. It’s a cliche I’m having trouble finding. Deadmoon Survial and Kindred are the only ones I can think of.
I'm not, actually. You assume I hate the game because I said there was nothing special about it. Meanwhile, you're the one talking in circles when you say it has unique things when earlier you called it a bare bones last of us ripoff. One of the most overrated games of all time IMO. But I call this and other games like it a try-hard because look at where they always end up. Abandoned. Years (or in some cases weeks) of 'slow burn' development down the drain because somebody got off more on cooking than eating. This came out in 2021 and wasted so much time on the 'build up' that it ultimately failed to reach whatever finale they were going for. Imagine where it could have been by now if it weren't for all the filler. Thinking people playing a porn game care more about the action and drama than the frequency and quality of sex scenes is the definition of missing the forest for the trees.I don’t get your hate for this game as it has woman on woman incest scenes. You’re talking in circles contradicting yourself saying this game is a cliche when has unique things, in the AVN world, going for it.
Agree to disagree on the sis bush or no bush. Comes down to personal kinks we won’t agree on.
Very well said.But I call this and other games like it a try-hard because look at where they always end up. Abandoned. Years (or in some cases weeks) of 'slow burn' development down the drain because somebody got off more on cooking than eating. This came out in 2021 and wasted so much time on the 'build up' that it ultimately failed to reach whatever finale they were going for. Imagine where it could have been by now if it weren't for all the filler.
I think you need to work on your media literacy and reading comprehension. Porn is a very obvious umbrella term for anything NSFW, including eroges. AKA Erotic Visual Novels. Not just real porn. And I fucking love pubic hair on women. You must have missed the part where I called mom's cunt deliciously hairy, and how if the daughter had a bald one, it would have made for a better contrast in body types. That's the only reason. Any other time I'm staunch advocate of the bush.Adult Visual Novel.
Pornhub > search bar > no pubic hair lesbian incest
I said you need to work on your media literacy and reading comprehension, but now I think you need to work on your English because damn, what a word salad. Just forget it, we're done here.So novel just means erotic and teeth cleaning bush but not an umbrella for sexy times drama, world building, characterization, story telling etc?
An 18 year daughter who shares genes with her mom during an apocalypse has a bush with a 40 year old mom? I mean they have shaved legs so they must be getting razors somewhere I guess. That’s something Tomato can work on if he comes back and wants a bigger difference between mother and daughter. Probably too much plot if I’m finally understanding your beef with this game?
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There is indeed a lot of low effort slop out there, but there's also a lot of try-hard 'too much effort' slop. Where developers put the cart before the horse by wasting too much time on boring story shit instead of the sex scenes. This game fell into the latter category. It didn't help that the character models came from Honey Select either, and they all looked the same age. So there was never anything really special here. The mother-daughter scene would have been exponentially hotter if she were a loli. (And it wasn't being mostly narrated by the daughter and in the third-person.)
Some fans liked the zombies scenes. Some fans hated the zombie scenes.Sadge. The way it would end up was visible a mile away ever since the whole zombie scene debacle, with game changing directions every update never commiting to one. At the point before 0.9 it became an over-developed mahwa type slop.
It's not even the slowburn a24 stuff, the game was getting overwritten like crazy making you power your way through endless bogfest of talking.
I would say that it's good to see at least some sort of content, even if it's scraps welded together. Kinda sucks with it only being lesbian content, but there isn't much more to ask for in this situation, getting this is more than I've expected, god bless Ruykiru.
I dunno, this game and it's shitty predicament annoyed me to no end for like a year, so I actually decided to go out of read only. How can a man get it so wrong on every decision so damn consistently that it gets into his head hard enough to go full radiosilence and wash hands off his own passion project.
I'm not sure if you took the time to read about the circumstances of this latest release - comments are among the latest pages of this thread, starting around the time of the release of the latest rev.So much fucking waiting for this shit? I understand that the developer has his issues to solve, problems and all, but all the choices only served to make me hate the "mc", a shitty obligatory lesbian sequence (whoever likes it, good for them, I never liked that and that's why I liked the game, because it gave me the option to avoid it and the story accommodated to that choice) that didn't even give me the option to skip it, finally, that shit was longer than any of the previous sequences, well, for that, I would have preferred to wait for the developer to finish his own work, take as long as it took, even if I had to wait 10 years just to see it, before leaving with this bad taste in my mouth that this update left me. Wherever you are hottomato, I hope you're okay, I'm sorry for whatever you're going through. I will try to support you in whatever way I can, after all I tried to do it from patreon whenever I could, and sorry if I look angry, but this update is the only thing it left me, it started well, but as the end approached, it only left me with a feeling of hatred and contempt for this work that I liked so much, I don't usually write or say anything about other people's works, but now I do get angry, whatever happens, I feel like this update never happened, and if your co-writer gave you this idea or was he the one who did this, as I understood in his "farewell message" well, good luck in future works, but that path is not your strong point, instead of leaving satisfied, you only left annoyances. Please excuse my poor English, and well if anyone was offended, I'm sorry, I couldn't handle the bad taste in my mouth that it left, something that wasn't perfect, but it was enjoyable, and this last part was definitely neither perfect nor enjoyable, at least for me.
Helga got some competition in the bush department now. Bush Royale crossover?Here's a few pics of my version of the girls. Thoughts?
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There is indeed a lot of low effort slop out there, but there's also a lot of try-hard 'too much effort' slop. Where developers put the cart before the horse by wasting too much time on boring story shit instead of the sex scenes. This game fell into the latter category. It didn't help that the character models came from Honey Select either, and they all looked the same age. So there was never anything really special here. The mother-daughter scene would have been exponentially hotter if she were a loli. (And it wasn't being mostly narrated by the daughter and in the third-person.)
What the heck are you going on about my man, for all I know the main developer is dead or very sick. This was never his job so he couldn't deliver steady updates every month because, guess what, creating AVNs takes a lot of time. Not everybody is lucky enough that they can both earn a good salary and can dedicate time to their passions. He never milked this because he earned pennies. He told me he even had to pay huge taxes so he earned even less.Holy shit, is that an actual in-game message from the developer? Cause that is a serious case of 'getting high on your own supply'. I was just poking around out of curiosity, as I had largely written the game off after the dev disavowed the monster scenes (which for me was the game's unique niche) as otherwise the game was a case of perpetual blue-balls revolving around characters stuck in an apocalypse but who continue to maintain pre-apocalypse hang-ups about sex and intimacy. Seeing as how the game perpetually failed to pull the trigger on the humans ever fucking each other, I long ago lost interest in what was on offer here. Still, tooting your own horn at finally delivering the goods after years of buildup? My Brother in Christ, whole entire other games (including some with better writing) have come and gone in that time.
I'm all for slow burns. I appreciate when erotica takes place between actual characters that the writer has given you a reason to care about. People with lives, goals, asperations, hopes, and fears; who are beset by both success and failure, and a narrative that shows how they react to what life tosses at them. Now & Then had zero erotica for the first chapter, had flashbacks or dream sequences to show off some sexy-times in Ch.2 and 4. It only finally crossed the line with the protagonist and his adoptive daughter in Ch.5 (out of 25 chapters by the time the game was finished), when they were both fairly well established characters reacting to a novel set of circumstances. The game also had regular updates every month, meaning all 25 chapters were delivered in just over 2 years (they've already just about finished their 2nd game as well, both of which had far larger casts than just 3). There is a difference between 'slow burn' and 'glacial' story pacing.
Side Note: Browsing F95 makes it abundantly clear that the 'audience' such as it is here has zero fucking taste, no regards for quality, and will happily eat up any slop so long as they can derive even the tiniest amount of sexual gratification from it. Shit writing, shit translations, ChatGPT and other generative AI slop. It all gets likes, adulation, rabid knee-jerk defense, and a frightening amount of it is financially successful. Simultaneously there is an embarrassment of choices when it comes to examples of creators perpetually refusing to finish a game in order to continue to coast on their sizable donation base. All of that is true, and depressing; but that's not a shield against criticism.