I'm wondering how many people will cancel their subscriptions but just haven't heard the news yet. Their patreon still has 420 patrons.
- Thread starter Alexander Krisnov
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Like Netflix subscriptions, a lot of people tend to just forget about what they're patrons of. Sometimes it can be due to not checking to site or simply not reading every single update from all their subscriptions on the site, and only focusing on other games. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of their patrons simply didn't get the memo yet. In all likelihood, a good portion of their subs may not have kept up with them enough to know how bad their track history is, and how much of a kick to the teeth this news is.
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Not really, since for the most part it'd just be a few dollars per patreon supported on a credit or debit account. At least in America, things like that basically never factor into taxes since they don't count as charitable donations and even if they did, the amounts are too small to affect anything. (I assume that you were thinking that they would count as donations on taxes at least)
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well i just feel bad there those who forget because there giveing money to people who are not using it for what they say they are. i would say the only thing that makes me very sad is the artist is getting a bad deal from them because the art is great and lookes really good.
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I'm amused to think that you all know you better than Wolf and Cres, or that they're done or whatever. They're just moving over to Subscriptionstar. Yes, Deathblight will be discontinued. The webcomic, however, will be finished, and they'll make new projects, smaller and better managed. Honestly, how many of you have ever even attempted to do something like this, hm? Stop being hypocrites.
- Nov 2, 2017
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i see your point but they used this game just so they could finish off there comicc some one even said that's why they did it. i also think if every one like's this game then why not keep working on it that is why they were getting money for this game not a comic book are what not and that is what get's me. that is my opinoin and that's what forum's are for for people to talk about stuff so i will keep giving my opinions. i now games and coding's are not easy but the game was great and like i said some one even said that is why they made this game was to make money for there comic why not just tell people the truth and not lie about why you made a fucking game for.
- Mar 17, 2019
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You know, you can just ask him. The discord is publicly open and most questions are answered within a few days by Wolf.
So, you're using the extremely common "you can't criticize something without trying to do it yourself fallacy". It's not hypocritical to criticize something for being poorly done, even if you've not done the same thing yourself. Anyone can look at a piece of art and criticize it, same with a game or a movie. And yes, even project development can be criticized.
Yeah, most people haven't done this type of project. But when you look and compare the progress and amount of payments to different projects or developers you can criticize the fact that one of them is extremely slow, lacks communication, or lacks quality content.
In this case, there's been relatively little communication on the game (on a month by month basis, which the patreon paid them on) and slow progress seen from the outside. And yeah, if most of your paid support is for project A, but your passion is project B people will be pissed if you cancel project A.
As for future projects being smaller and better managed, there's no way to say that now. You can only say that after 2-3 more smaller projects they do in the future have been better managed. People say things like that all the time for a patreon (or similar campaign) they like and are suffering optimism and sunk cost fallacy on. "The developer promised to do better and they did for 1 update, so it's great now." No, you need to see them hold that up for multiple updates / milestones / projects to see if they managed to improve for real or as a one off fluke. Again I don't need to have managed a project myself to be able to look at how someone has done on their own, and compare them against their own projects and promises.
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So we're suddenly not allowed to criticize them on starting multiple projects at once and dropping them willy nilly? What does this have to do with someone thinking they know more than Wolf and Cres? Here's a hint: it doesn't. The way you phrased that makes it sound like you're holding them on some kind of pedestal just for being game indie developers.
Great... Just what we needed, them starting a whole bunch of other projects that they can't finish... You're so bias that you can't even realize what people have been saying their biggest problem is. They should stick to one project they can finish and focus on that. We don't need them going dark on a game and then coming out a year later announcing that they're gonna work on a second one simultaneously, only to do the exact same thing with a third game announcement.
This is a shit argument. You can honestly fuck right off with this. You don't need to be a game developer to know someone is doing something stupid, or to critic the product. This is seriously kindergarten levels of excuses. There are hundreds of indie porn game developers who haven't made the dumb decision of trying to work on three different games at the same time like they have. They're extremely slow with updates, they rarely update people with what they're doing to begin with, the rare times they do give an update it hasa chance of it being about them announcing another new game, etc.
Also, you should go revise the definition on what the word "hypocrite" means. Nobody is doing anything here that makes them a hypocrite.
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Eromancer. Molegames. ViperV.
Countless, endless others.
We've seen this shit before.
We ain't hypocrites.
When it comes to shitty business practices, F95 isn't as delusional as simps like you.
Man that "Never gonna sell this game for money directly, we made a promise" mentality must be one of the most naive reasons to abandon a project I've ever heard of. I'm sure fans would've been understanding if they explained the current economic situation regarding the game and the need for funding. (But there's also the blew $40k on marketing fiasco)
But at the same time, selling the game for a final price establishes a certain level of expectations which they were probably not prepared to meet. They probably never intended for this to be more than a casual side project to boost the popularity of their main IP. A lot can happen in 3+ years. It's also possible that they have other things going in life that weren't there when they started working on this game.
I will always remember Deathblight as the RPG that got me into RPGM games and this corner of the internet. I had seen Crescentia's work in the past, but I've never been a fan of the body types in her art. That was until I played this game and for some reason my tastes have changed. (I am a big fan of Ferania in particular, don't really care about the other ones)
This genre became my favorite and it was thanks to this game that I discovered the likes of Ahriman and other creators. After experiencing those works I always wondered what Deathblight RPG had the potential to become. I was intrigued by the idea of a corruption system, but wasn't a fan of the way it was implemented. Would've really liked to see more combat mechanics, enemy types, h-attacks, new standing picture artwork for the characters.
They also happened to be the first creator I ever supported on Patreon. But I am a transactional supporter. I pledge for a month, get the latest version of the game, then interrupt my support until another update comes out. There are probably many others like me out there who were ready to support the game if development and release of new content followed a healthy pace.
It saddens me to see this game abandoned. It had the best artwork of all the games in its genre (to my knowledge)
Perhaps one day a creator could pick it up and work with them in a partnership. Like a license to use the Deathblight IP and have Crescentia provide the artwork (similar to a commission) , but hosted as a separate project on the developer support platform (Patreon/Subscribestar/Ci-en/etc). That would take some weight off of Wolf and Cres' shoulders and allow them to allocate more time to the kind of content they enjoy producing.
My post history on this or other websites will probably reveal me as one of the harshest critics of this game, but that's only because this was one of the few games I truly cared about...
But at the same time, selling the game for a final price establishes a certain level of expectations which they were probably not prepared to meet. They probably never intended for this to be more than a casual side project to boost the popularity of their main IP. A lot can happen in 3+ years. It's also possible that they have other things going in life that weren't there when they started working on this game.
I will always remember Deathblight as the RPG that got me into RPGM games and this corner of the internet. I had seen Crescentia's work in the past, but I've never been a fan of the body types in her art. That was until I played this game and for some reason my tastes have changed. (I am a big fan of Ferania in particular, don't really care about the other ones)
This genre became my favorite and it was thanks to this game that I discovered the likes of Ahriman and other creators. After experiencing those works I always wondered what Deathblight RPG had the potential to become. I was intrigued by the idea of a corruption system, but wasn't a fan of the way it was implemented. Would've really liked to see more combat mechanics, enemy types, h-attacks, new standing picture artwork for the characters.
They also happened to be the first creator I ever supported on Patreon. But I am a transactional supporter. I pledge for a month, get the latest version of the game, then interrupt my support until another update comes out. There are probably many others like me out there who were ready to support the game if development and release of new content followed a healthy pace.
It saddens me to see this game abandoned. It had the best artwork of all the games in its genre (to my knowledge)
Perhaps one day a creator could pick it up and work with them in a partnership. Like a license to use the Deathblight IP and have Crescentia provide the artwork (similar to a commission) , but hosted as a separate project on the developer support platform (Patreon/Subscribestar/Ci-en/etc). That would take some weight off of Wolf and Cres' shoulders and allow them to allocate more time to the kind of content they enjoy producing.
My post history on this or other websites will probably reveal me as one of the harshest critics of this game, but that's only because this was one of the few games I truly cared about...
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i think alot of people like the game i know i did the fight's were fun the story great the art was also really great i still play what i have just to see the art and stuff. i may not have had the money to help but if i did i would have but only for this game tho lol.
Why are people saying the game is abandoned? We got a progress update in September and there should be more info this month according to that post last month
You clearly haven't been keeping up with recent developments.
Hope this answers your questions.
Damn. Hopefully they can resume development at some point and also pick up NSFW projects again through Subscribestar at some point.
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i don't get it what was patrons problem with the game there are alot of games like that on patron i did not see nothing bad about it. but there are other way's to make money. but i still don't see why patron stoped the game if it had the right tag's.mybe patron is just a shitty compiony tring to say what they thing should be made but i don't know there palicy.