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Muingo

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I believe I know the problem. You are using the bot mods from YuriShikane (I like them too!) but there is a problem using them with SR24. Some of them (maybe all, not sure) were designed to use the 'Genitals' part from the original Daedalron bots mod. Daedalron updated his bot mod for SR24 by removing the 'Genitals' parts and replacing them with 'Vagina' parts which is what SR24 uses. Unfortunately this change breaks YuriShikane's bot mods in SR24. I don't feel right distributing revised YuriShikane's mods since they aren't mine. Many people, including me(!), modify other people's mods for our own use. Do you know how to edit .json files? If so I can walk you through fixing the YureShikane bot mods for SR24. Let me know!
I had exactly this problem and your comment helped me fix it. Thanks a lot! :)
 
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I believe I know the problem. You are using the bot mods from YuriShikane (I like them too!) but there is a problem using them with SR24. Some of them (maybe all, not sure) were designed to use the 'Genitals' part from the original Daedalron bots mod. Daedalron updated his bot mod for SR24 by removing the 'Genitals' parts and replacing them with 'Vagina' parts which is what SR24 uses. Unfortunately this change breaks YuriShikane's bot mods in SR24. I don't feel right distributing revised YuriShikane's mods since they aren't mine. Many people, including me(!), modify other people's mods for our own use. Do you know how to edit .json files? If so I can walk you through fixing the YureShikane bot mods for SR24. Let me know!
Just saw this message here.

When I updated my mod to SR24, I changed the Genitals from each of my bots to a Vagina slot, to keep in line with the parts already in SR24. However, to keep some compatibility, I kept the Genitals slot in my mod (none of my bots use it, but other modders who referenced it shouldn't have had issue that way).
What I obviously missed is the situation where other modders would ALSO use the genitals parts from my mod, not just the slot...

So to solve the issue, you would have to edit the bots to change the "bot_genitals" slots to "bot_vagina" slots for each bot.
Another option would be to create another set of genitals parts and assign those to the bots. That would solve the issue for all bots once and for all, but you'd then have some vaginas compatible with some bots and not other bots, so not ideal in the long run. So I strongly suggest the first solution instead.
 

squirrel24

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Daedalron, your efforts are greatly appreciated! It's difficult anticipating all possibilities. If I could fix mod problems when they are loaded I would do it. Unfortunately I don't know how. Supporting mods is difficult but they make the game more fun. Thanks again for your efforts!
 

ClownBug

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squirrel24 and Daedalron

Help me understand please:

To solve the problems of compatibility
All I have to do is download all the mods
then change every reference from "genitals" to "vagina" and "bot_genitals" to "bot_vagina"
Is that correct?

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Aha I see
The "name": "Genitals", appears in status of chassis view

I changed "id": "bot_genitals", to "id": "bot_vagina",

Code:
  "bot_part_slots": [
    {
      "id": "bot_vagina",
      "name": "Genitals",
And nothing appears broken, how can I test?
 
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squirrel24

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squirrel24 and Daedalron

Help me understand please:

To solve the problems of compatibility
All I have to do is download all the mods
then change every reference from "genitals" to "vagina" and "bot_genitals" to "bot_vagina"
Is that correct?

Edit:
Aha I see
The "name": "Genitals", appears in status of chassis view

I changed "id": "bot_genitals", to "id": "bot_vagina",

Code:
  "bot_part_slots": [
    {
      "id": "bot_vagina",
      "name": "Genitals",
And nothing appears broken, how can I test?
You've got it right. For SR24 in the slots section when it says "genitals" change it to "vagina" (match case every time!) If you will be using "ShakyMod_Parts" and "Daedalron Bots" you are done. If you want to be able to use bot mods without the other mods you must change part names to the ones used in SR24. If you need help doing that please ask again. Cheers!
 
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ClownBug

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You've got it right. For SR24 in the slots section when it says "genitals" change it to "vagina" (match case every time!) If you will be using "ShakyMod_Parts" and "Daedalron Bots" you are done. If you want to be able to use bot mods without the other mods you must change part names to the ones used in SR24. If you need help doing that please ask again. Cheers!
I placed the mods in the mod folder opened the entire directory with Visual Studio Code and used the search and replace function and presto!
 
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Daedalron

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squirrel24 and Daedalron

Help me understand please:

To solve the problems of compatibility
All I have to do is download all the mods
then change every reference from "genitals" to "vagina" and "bot_genitals" to "bot_vagina"
Is that correct?

Edit:
Aha I see
The "name": "Genitals", appears in status of chassis view

I changed "id": "bot_genitals", to "id": "bot_vagina",

Code:
  "bot_part_slots": [
    {
      "id": "bot_vagina",
      "name": "Genitals",
And nothing appears broken, how can I test?
The one you showed here is the only one you should not change.
For the « bot_part_slots », keep it as bot_genitals.

the thing you need to change is the other mods, your bots mods. In the list of bots, there’s a section for each bot where it says what part is the default for each slot. It is here, for each bot, that you need to change from bot_genitals to bot_vagina.

so, nothing to change in my mod, what you need to change is in YuriShikane mod.
 
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squirrel24

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The one you showed here is the only one you should not change.
For the « bot_part_slots », keep it as bot_genitals.

the thing you need to change is the other mods, your bots mods. In the list of bots, there’s a section for each bot where it says what part is the default for each slot. It is here, for each bot, that you need to change from bot_genitals to bot_vagina.

so, nothing to change in my mod, what you need to change is in YuriShikane mod.
I'm sorry for creating a misunderstanding, Daedalron is right about his mod. I was talking about YuriShikane's mods when I gave my advice earlier. I am not aware of other bot mods that use Daedalron's genitals parts but there certainly may be others. Many people use bot mods more than I do.

I wish this confusion didn't exist but I'm old school and I don't consider males and females interchangeable so I created separate genitals. For anyone who wants to make bot mods that play around with genders feel free to do so. You must assign a bot as either "female" or "male" or they will be severely limited in the game (text strings other than "female" and "male" are ignored). Aside from the assigned gender you can create a bot mod with both penis and vagina, you can create a bot mod with only a penis that you assign "female", or vice versa. Some will enjoy your mods and others won't. Technically, part types are only text strings so any combination of UNIQUE part types in a bot are OK: duplicating part types attempting to create a bot with 2 or more of the same part type WILL NOT WORK. One other thing, a bot MUST have a CPU and a Powercore. You might get away with omitting other of the original DSCS part types (untested) but you cannot omit either the CPU or the Powercore. Cheers!
 
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ClownBug

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What ever you both are worried about I don't understand because everything works.
All parts spawn and show up in game.
Very sorry for creating confusion!
 
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Daedalron

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What ever you both are worried about I don't understand because everything works.
My mention of keeping "bot_genitals" in the "bot_part_slots" was only about keeping compatibility with other mods, in the off-chance they would be using my slot with their own genitals parts.
It's technically not necessary for my mod to work, so that's why everything still works for you with that part changed, you just don't have another mod using the slot with their own parts. :)
 

Happy4now

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I am having a problem increasing the sex skill of the mod bot "model_name: MT-YC1". I try to train the bot in sex and she gets no xp. I have seen this with a couple of other bots but can't remember the models. Is it because that bot does not have certain slots like implants?

I found a Widowmaker v4 without an implant slot andwas able to raise it's sex skill so it is not that slot.
 
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squirrel24

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I am having a problem increasing the sex skill of the mod bot "model_name: MT-YC1". I try to train the bot in sex and she gets no xp. I have seen this with a couple of other bots but can't remember the models. Is it because that bot does not have certain slots like implants?

I found a Widowmaker v4 without an implant slot andwas able to raise it's sex skill so it is not that slot.
The most likely reason is the bot's skill is higher than yours. Check the MC's sex skill and compare it to the bot's sex skill. If the bot is higher she can't learn from you.
 
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Happy4now

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The most likely reason is the bot's skill is higher than yours. Check the MC's sex skill and compare it to the bot's sex skill. If the bot is higher she can't learn from you.
Thanks Squirrel24 for the reply.

The bot did not have the skill the first time I trained her. The MC's skill was at C level. During the first training, she gained the skill but got no xp (the MC did gain 24 xp), the bot was showing as "Sex (0%)F". I tried to raise it several times and the MC gained xp each time but the bot stayed at 0%.
 

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Thanks Squirrel24 for the reply.

The bot did not have the skill the first time I trained her. The MC's skill was at C level. During the first training, she gained the skill but got no xp (the MC did gain 24 xp), the bot was showing as "Sex (0%)F". I tried to raise it several times and the MC gained xp each time but the bot stayed at 0%.
OK, next idea. You are using Daedalron Bots and he made his "F" level vagina useless. It has a training multiplier of 0.0001 and the 'xp' result rounds down to 0. The part name is "GE-NV-00". Is there any chance your bot has this vagina part?
 
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squirrel24

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Thank you! That was it. I switched to a different part and the bot is now gaining sex xp.
Sort of funny about that issue, I was tripped up by it myself when I first encountered it. At first I decided there was something wrong with the bot so I sold it at the flea market and scavenged another bot! At some point I slowed down and read the description of Daedalron's F rated vagina part and learned that it's "useless". That experiences taught me to slow down and read the text in the game whenever unexpected things happen. Unfortunately when playing the game the text is repetitive and we sometimes stop paying attention. Cheers!
 

Daedalron

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Happy4now You should read the description of the bot. This is what you get for trying to have sex with a bot made for kids, not adults ;)

I made that F vagina part for bots that are specifically designed to NOT be sexbots.
For example I gave it to some bots that in-universe I described as military bots, as well as that MT-YC1 bot that is designed as a nurse for kids.
The concept is that those bots, if bought as a new retail bot, would not be able to function as a sexbot, but there would always be some degenerate users that would mod the bots in order to transform it into a potential sexbot.

The way I see it, that "vagina" part is pretty much an empty slot, not a vagina, so there is nothing to stimulate the male partner. It's just a pure metal cavity not even shaped to accomodate a penis. You'd be more likely to hurt yourself humping directly on the bare metal parts than you would get sexual stimulation for it.

Also, something strange. Happy4now, you mention the bot MT-YC1 having no implant slot? Which version of my mod are you using? If you're on the SR24 v3.1 version (last version for SR24), all my bots should have an implant slot.
 
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Happy4now You should read the description of the bot. This is what you get for trying to have sex with a bot made for kids, not adults ;)

I made that F vagina part for bots that are specifically designed to NOT be sexbots.
For example I gave it to some bots that in-universe I described as military bots, as well as that MT-YC1 bot that is designed as a nurse for kids.
The concept is that those bots, if bought as a new retail bot, would not be able to function as a sexbot, but there would always be some degenerate users that would mod the bots in order to transform it into a potential sexbot.

The way I see it, that "vagina" part is pretty much an empty slot, not a vagina, so there is nothing to stimulate the male partner. It's just a pure metal cavity not even shaped to accomodate a penis. You'd be more likely to hurt yourself humping directly on the bare metal parts than you would get sexual stimulation for it.

Also, something strange. Happy4now, you mention the bot MT-YC1 having no implant slot? Which version of my mod are you using? If you're on the SR24 v3.1 version (last version for SR24), all my bots should have an implant slot.
When I read the F vagina part description that's what I thought and I liked the twist you introduced. I didn't replicate it in the SR24 vanilla F vagina. It has pretty low value but it's not 0.

Your post reminded me of something I've been debating in my head so I'm posting a question for anyone interested in responding. DSCS never had any E or F rated bots, D was the lowest. I've thought that an E or F rated bot may look and feel more like a robot and maybe they don't even have a skin layer, implants, or a vagina/penis. They could be trained in all skills except sex. They could be technicians, clerks, shopkeepers and housekeepers but not bedroom toys. They would make lousy clerks and shopkeepers though; no one wants to buy things from an ugly robot! The game is about "SexBots" so I'm not sure it's a good idea to go in this direction. At present I have no plans to do this but I'm curious what people think of the idea.

UPDATE: Feedback on Discord where I asked the same question convinced me to abandon this idea for now. The main reason is that there are only 6 capsules so no one would waste any of them on barely functional bots. This idea will go on the "maybe someday" list right below "address the capsule limit". Cheers!
 
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When I read the F vagina part description that's what I thought and I liked the twist you introduced. I didn't replicate it in the SR24 vanilla F vagina. It has pretty low value but it's not 0.

Your post reminded me of something I've been debating in my head so I'm posting a question for anyone interested in responding. DSCS never had any E or F rated bots, D was the lowest. I've thought that an E or F rated bot may look and feel more like a robot and maybe they don't even have a skin layer, implants, or a vagina/penis. They could be trained in all skills except sex. They could be technicians, clerks, shopkeepers and housekeepers but not bedroom toys. They would make lousy clerks and shopkeepers though; no one wants to buy things from an ugly robot! The game is about "SexBots" so I'm not sure it's a good idea to go in this direction. At present I have no plans to do this but I'm curious what people think of the idea.
Maybe something along the lines of "purpose-built" bots, like Mil-Spec?
 
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