Echoesinthedarkness

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if anything normal Steph just kept her persona, and ultimately she is the same girl as she was at the start of the game. and bimbo is basically a fanfic version of her: Steph on steroids, or Steph on horni pills if you like - it's her who's got most of her looks and traits erased.
 

WarriorSteel

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That's my impression aswell, but I'm wondering if this is confirmed to be on purpose. Both Stephs have roughly the same amount of content. It's just that regular Steph doesn't really have anything unique to her anymore and seems to have lost a bit of her personality after the split. To me this seems more like a mistake.
Yes, it is. It v was something discussed on White Phantom discord server.
He didn't want to force players to have to bimbofy Steph to romance her, so he made the regular Steph path, but this one will have less renders and will be less developed than Bimbo. A good example would be how you can get a poly relationship with Lydia and Steph only if Steph is a Bimbo.
 

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He didn't want to force players to have to bimbofy Steph to romance her, so he made the regular Steph path, but this one will have less renders and will be less developed than Bimbo.
But doesn't the decision to bimbofy her come well after romancing her? I mean, the first time she drops a hint that she might like to have fake tits is after she moves in with the PC. At that point you're already locked out of the other main routes.
I appreciate that players aren't forced to bimbofy Steph, because the buff police woman never struck me as a prime candidate for this fetish. Maybe bimbo Steph should have been hinted at more at the beginning of the game, because, as it stands now, the people that liked Steph's first impressions basically don't have a main route in their playthrough.
 
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But doesn't the decision to bimbofy her come well after romancing her? I mean, the first time she drops a hint that she might like to have fake tits is after she moves in with the PC. At that point you're already locked out of the other main routes.
I appreciate that players aren't forced to bimbofy Steph, because the buff police woman never struck me as a prime candidate for this fetish. Maybe bimbo Steph should have been hinted at more at the beginning of the game, because, as it stands now, the people that liked Steph's first impressions basically don't have a main route in their playthrough.
On a one hand, you're right, on the other hand, devs resources are limited. I like kinky, non bimbo Steph more. But if additional scenes with her will add a couple of weeks, or may be a month of developing between updates, will it worth it? For me, not.
Besides, as I see it, almost everyone will play all the routes anyway. And, truth be told, bimbo path suits Steph well. She is not a good cop, she doesn't like to be one. Steph likes to wach brain damaging shows on TV and envy girls on that shows. Just some thougts.
 

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My interpretation of this whole dabacle is making for one easy way out:
Reusing scenes and/or making them repeatable should be way easier
that making ones from scratch.

All of Regular Steph dates could be reused/made recurring now,
as new content goes to bimbo, regular fantastic babe should get repeatable
dates just like the early ones, with small variation scenes.

100 new renders tops, coupled with the already existent dates renders,
they could make for 10 totally new dates for her
and would turn the romance upwards to 1000000% and become
this much stronger and feel this much more real and endearing.

Another idea could be:

Circulating through the kinks we discussed with her in bed,
right before we can get the roleplay wonder scenes,
striving to include one new kink per new date,
all this would rehsuffle already fantastic renders we already adore
with the kinks we did not get to explore in the early game.
WhitePhantom , what do you say?

if anything normal Steph just kept her persona, and ultimately she is the same girl as she was at the start of the game. and bimbo is basically a fanfic version of her: Steph on steroids, or Steph on horni pills if you like - it's her who's got most of her looks and traits erased.
Yes, it is. It v was something discussed on White Phantom discord server.
He didn't want to force players to have to bimbofy Steph to romance her, so he made the regular Steph path, but this one will have less renders and will be less developed than Bimbo. A good example would be how you can get a poly relationship with Lydia and Steph only if Steph is a Bimbo.
But doesn't the decision to bimbofy her come well after romancing her? I mean, the first time she drops a hint that she might like to have fake tits is after she moves in with the PC. At that point you're already locked out of the other main routes.
I appreciate that players aren't forced to bimbofy Steph, because the buff police woman never struck me as a prime candidate for this fetish. Maybe bimbo Steph should have been hinted at more at the beginning of the game, because, as it stands now, the people that liked Steph's first impressions basically don't have a main route in their playthrough.
On a one hand, you're right, on the other hand, devs resources are limited. I like kinky, non bimbo Steph more. But if additional scenes with her will add a couple of weeks, or may be a month of developing between updates, will it worth it? For me, not.
Besides, as I see it, almost everyone will play all the routes anyway. And, truth be told, bimbo path suits Steph well. She is not a good cop, she doesn't like to be one. Steph likes to wach brain damaging shows on TV and envy girls on that shows. Just some thougts.
 

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Hello everybody,

Here is this week's development log for Defending Lydia Collier and an update on how the progress on v.0.14 is going so far.

Firstly, the render count. I've now made 2,016 renders for v.0.14, and have completed another animation. That's an additional 146 renders in the past week.

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Unfortunately the last week was plagued with technical difficulties which slowed things down slightly, my RTX 3090 card again started malfunctioning only months after the previous one was replaced under warranty, and despite reporting the fault last Friday evening I only received the warranty replacement this week.

I'm going to be upgrading the Ren'Py version of the game from Ren'Py 7.3.1 to Ren'Py 7.5 with this update as I need some of the newer features, especially for Steam integration. I will try and release the game still on Ren'Py 7.3 for people on Windows XP still, but some of the changes and features will be removed if they only work on the newer version. This shouldn't effect the overwhelming majority of players anyway, but a 7.3 version will still be released for those of you who need it.

With the help of Lady Aspen, a wonderful GFX Designer, I've now got some great promo artwork for the store page of the game on Steam, so I'll be finally submitting the game to approval there when v.0.14 is done. I've also been helped by Krull, another fantastic GFX Designer, who has made a great new banner for the page exclusively for here on f95zone! Check it out on the 1st page!

In terms of when the next update is going to be out, I hope to have the UK part of v.0.14 off to Alpha by the end of next week now.

I'm going to do things slightly differently with v.0.14, as the UK and the non-UK parts are so completely separated, I'm going to release v.0.14 once it is done and tested, and then release Vanessa's part as a separate update in a few weeks.

I'm also planning a separate Lydia update as well, as I've decided to significant extend her content from what was a planned 50-100 render scene, to 3 100-200 render scenes instead.

So this will be the new update format for the planned updates leading up to the end of Defending Lydia Collier.

v.0.14 - All of Sunday's UK based content (Samantha, Emma, Regular Stephanie, Bimbo Stephanie, Lydia, Jenna & Ellie will all have at least one adult scene and several non-adult ones). This will be the game's second biggest ever update.

v.0.15 - The Island Wedding Update - Will be Sunday outside of the UK, focusing on Vanessa, Tiffany & co on the island. This will follow a few weeks after v.0.14 and be approximately 500-1000 renders.

v.0.16 - Lydia's Extended Content - This will take place during the early morning of Monday, but before the start of Monday proper. This will be approximately 300-750 renders long and follow a few weeks after v.0.15.

v.0.17 - Monday - This will be the final major content update for the game, give final scenes to most characters and will follow 1-2 months after v.0.16 and be either the 2nd or 3rd biggest update of the game.

v.0.18 - Tuesday - This will be the conclusion of Defending Lydia Collier, featuring the ending which will be decided by your choices leading up to this point, and then all of the game's endings, there's going to be tons and tons of endings.

v.1 - Polishing - This will be polishing up the game, fixing any and all remaining errors, typos etc, adding in missing scenes and adding achievements and all that kind of thing.

Thanks for all the new and continued support, and as soon as v.0.14 is released to the Alpha Testers I'll let you all know!

WP
 

lipe2410

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Hello everybody,

Here is this week's development log for Defending Lydia Collier and an update on how the progress on v.0.14 is going so far.

Firstly, the render count. I've now made 2,016 renders for v.0.14, and have completed another animation. That's an additional 146 renders in the past week.

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Unfortunately the last week was plagued with technical difficulties which slowed things down slightly, my RTX 3090 card again started malfunctioning only months after the previous one was replaced under warranty, and despite reporting the fault last Friday evening I only received the warranty replacement this week.

I'm going to be upgrading the Ren'Py version of the game from Ren'Py 7.3.1 to Ren'Py 7.5 with this update as I need some of the newer features, especially for Steam integration. I will try and release the game still on Ren'Py 7.3 for people on Windows XP still, but some of the changes and features will be removed if they only work on the newer version. This shouldn't effect the overwhelming majority of players anyway, but a 7.3 version will still be released for those of you who need it.

With the help of Lady Aspen, a wonderful GFX Designer, I've now got some great promo artwork for the store page of the game on Steam, so I'll be finally submitting the game to approval there when v.0.14 is done. I've also been helped by Krull, another fantastic GFX Designer, who has made a great new banner for the page exclusively for here on f95zone! Check it out on the 1st page!

In terms of when the next update is going to be out, I hope to have the UK part of v.0.14 off to Alpha by the end of next week now.

I'm going to do things slightly differently with v.0.14, as the UK and the non-UK parts are so completely separated, I'm going to release v.0.14 once it is done and tested, and then release Vanessa's part as a separate update in a few weeks.

I'm also planning a separate Lydia update as well, as I've decided to significant extend her content from what was a planned 50-100 render scene, to 3 100-200 render scenes instead.

So this will be the new update format for the planned updates leading up to the end of Defending Lydia Collier.

v.0.14 - All of Sunday's UK based content (Samantha, Emma, Regular Stephanie, Bimbo Stephanie, Lydia, Jenna & Ellie will all have at least one adult scene and several non-adult ones). This will be the game's second biggest ever update.

v.0.15 - The Island Wedding Update - Will be Sunday outside of the UK, focusing on Vanessa, Tiffany & co on the island. This will follow a few weeks after v.0.14 and be approximately 500-1000 renders.

v.0.16 - Lydia's Extended Content - This will take place during the early morning of Monday, but before the start of Monday proper. This will be approximately 300-750 renders long and follow a few weeks after v.0.15.

v.0.17 - Monday - This will be the final major content update for the game, give final scenes to most characters and will follow 1-2 months after v.0.16 and be either the 2nd or 3rd biggest update of the game.

v.0.18 - Tuesday - This will be the conclusion of Defending Lydia Collier, featuring the ending which will be decided by your choices leading up to this point, and then all of the game's endings, there's going to be tons and tons of endings.

v.1 - Polishing - This will be polishing up the game, fixing any and all remaining errors, typos etc, adding in missing scenes and adding achievements and all that kind of thing.

Thanks for all the new and continued support, and as soon as v.0.14 is released to the Alpha Testers I'll let you all know!

WP
Oh god, i LOVED new Ellie clothes! Please say she dress like this in the slut/dark path, please? And what is this n Lydia preview? Another date with MC? Maybe a Lydia/Steph/MC date? Hope this night ends in a hot naughty threesome.
 

WhitePhantom

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Oh god, i LOVED new Ellie clothes! Please say she dress like this in the slut/dark path, please? And what is this n Lydia preview? Another date with MC? Maybe a Lydia/Steph/MC date? Hope this night ends in a hot naughty threesome.
Won't give away too much but she'll definitely be wearing these clothes for some parts of the upcoming update ;)
 

WhitePhantom

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Hello everybody!

Apologies, for the delay I got my days confused and forgot it was Friday yesterday, I thought it was Thursday.

I've now completed 2,231 renders for Defending Lydia Collier v.0.14, along with 3 animations, and that's pretty much everything done for the v.0.14 update.

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I'm now working on finalising and finishing off the post work on the images and coding/writing the v.0.14 Alpha version of the update and sending it to Alpha testing, which will happen this coming week, and once I've got their initial feedback I'll be setting a release date!

I'll let you all know the moment an update release date is set!

Thanks for all the new and continued support!

WP
 

Samuel Hidayat

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Hey guys, is there a way to trigger Ellie asking MC to hire Samantha? Walkthrough said the scene should've happened, but I didn't get it.

My Ellie is innocent and MC follows Sam's Our Moments btw.
 

lipe2410

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Hey guys, is there a way to trigger Ellie asking MC to hire Samantha? Walkthrough said the scene should've happened, but I didn't get it.

My Ellie is innocent and MC follows Sam's Our Moments btw.
You need be in Ellie's path. You have to go in a date with her.
 
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