VN Ren'Py Defending Lydia Collier [v0.16.2 Hotfix] [White Phantom Games]

[Cherubin25]

I am quite curious about this game for a while, so I have 2 questions:

I read somewhere that Bimbofication is present in this game. How much content is in the game regarding Bimbofication? Only a little bit or more?

How long is the playtime in total with the most recent Update? For someone who is also interested in the story itself, so no skipping or anything.

 

[Deckmaster]

WhitePhantom since it has 4 teams to pick can you make four or five saveslots instead of the standard 3. And can you add the option we can name them?

 

[WhitePhantom]

I am quite curious about this game for a while, so I have 2 questions:

I read somewhere that Bimbofication is present in this game. How much content is in the game regarding Bimbofication? Only a little bit or more?

How long is the playtime in total with the most recent Update? For someone who is also interested in the story itself, so no skipping or anything.

There's more than 15,000 individual renders in the game (although these are split down multiple branching paths that are mutually exclusive). I'd say there is probably about 4-6 hours worth of content if you're reading everything from the beginning, although this may be significantly less down certain paths and it all depends on reading speed.

In terms of bimbofication,

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Most recent update was 2,300 images and a couple of animations, probably 30 minutes to an hour. I read very fast though.

WhitePhantom since it has 4 teams to pick can you make four or five saveslots instead of the standard 3. And can you add the option we can name them?

I'm slightly confused as to what you mean?

Ren'Py by default has six save slots and you can have multiple pages of six, there are far more than three? I've never had three?

Save Names are already present, just click the box underneath the image and it will give you the option to rename the save.

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Maisie Scene is bugged for me

I've said: "I'm a single man (...)"
But when you choose: "Ask Maisie to help (...)"
She still says: "Especially as you told me you have a girlfriend?"

BUT I NEVER DID IT!

Thanks this will be fixed in v.0.14.2.

When do we expect a android port? I've been patiently waiting for the update

Official Android Version was released along with Mac, Linux and Windows versions on the 14th of October to $10+ Supporters, and released to $5+ Supporters on the 21st of October.

Game (on all versions) will be available freely to the public on the 4th of November.

Does anybody else have a bug on the corrupted Ellie path, where after you have the family dinner at restaurant and come back and have sex with Ellie, when you wake up in the middle of the night by phone call from Bilbo, the screen gets overlaid with laptop news. and it's possible to click "review my team" and then somehow get kicked back to earlier in the game. older version of laptop interface, quit laptop then suddenly you're at your office with Sam/Ellie working. All with the news staying overlaid and unable to remove.

I've tried deleting, reinstalling without mods etc. always happens.

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The Old Computer has some odd, weird bugs that appear from time to time. I am in process (it is taking a while) of completely ripping out the old computer entirely and replacing it with the significantly improved new one. At the time I was doing some really bad coding (I didn't know better at the time, I learnt all my code from YouTube tutorials initially) using hundreds of flags to send the player back to certain points instead of just Returning out of the screen which is what the new computer does. It sounds like that specific save has a flag set incorrectly from an earlier use of the computer, and the connection from the team screen to the old laptop is using it to send you back to the certain point it thinks you're at. As it didn't disable the exit flag, it has also not disabled the news flags either that's why they then reappear when you go back to part of the game using the old PC.

For now I'd recommend just not clicking that one, the best character to send from the Boys Team for that mission is

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or if you let me know specifically where it returns you to, I can check what flag that would be and you can use the Dev Console to turn it to False. A new save will also fix it.

In the future when the old laptop is ripped out these flags will be redundant and not do anything, so if you can just ignore clicking there for now it will be fixed when the old computer is removed.

 

[Lord Soth]

Been a while since I last played this and man I forgot how good it is.
Steph just takes top girl for me, hot as hell with a body to match and some seriously kinky depravities you can bring out in her.
I'll try the other routes too but it's hard to beat having a devoted sex goddess waiting at home for your dudes attention

Love the details in this game and how good the characters dialogue/interactions are - compared to so many VN's on here that are like chars/dialogues written by teenagers. Excellent work dev.

 

[Talmadge]

Hey, WhitePhantom. You thinking of making a game based on the Willow Hall news articles in this game? Just started playing, and read the news on the computer and it sounds interesting.

 

[Deckmaster]

WhitePhantom I have added an image to show you what I meant. ;-)


in general the buttons are shown in a cycle, like

grid 3 2: # 3 columns, 2 rows

maybe you can use grid 5 3:

or grid 4 3:

I found this for you in the Renpy Guide.

define gui.file_slot_cols = 3
define gui.file_slot_rows = 2
The number of columns and rows in the grid of save slots.

if you alter this to
define gui.file_slot_cols = 4
define gui.file_slot_rows = 4

It will be easier as there are four teams to keep track of.

 

[hysepReC]

I'm waiting for the public release to play again, but that makes sense. Jenna didn't want the MC to fuck her student in the first place. You get the choice to push her into it because she's so desperate to have the MC back, so it makes sense for the scene to play into her further humiliation.

There's no rule anywhere that says the cuck should enjoy it. It's a convention in some subgenres of porn, especially when it is a woman, but hardly universal. There's a long history of porn built specifically on the opposite.

You're right about Jenna's desperation to win the MC back but she agreed to a threesome, not to sit on the floor and watch him have sex with another woman while she gets insulted. Jenna practically begs the MC to stop after Naomi tells her she can't join in, continuing makes it cheating because the MC has sex with someone else against his girlfriend's wishes. Now i'm not saying this is a bad scene at all (it's actually well written because it made me feel bad for Jenna), it's just not to my taste. Considering the wide range of fetishes in this game, it's kind of surprising there hasn't been a proper threesome yet. Maybe Lydia would be a better candidate for this?

 

[DaFlurbIsHere]

Been a while since I last played this and man I forgot how good it is.
Steph just takes top girl for me, hot as hell with a body to match and some seriously kinky depravities you can bring out in her.
I'll try the other routes too but it's hard to beat having a devoted sex goddess waiting at home for your dudes attention

Love the details in this game and how good the characters dialogue/interactions are - compared to so many VN's on here that are like chars/dialogues written by teenagers. Excellent work dev.

I thought much the same, who could beat Steph? But both other main routes (Vanessa & Ellie) are amazing as well. Vanessa is such a lovely, well-written character... and Ellie is a 19-year old girl from a very dysfunctional family way in over her head, in both versions of her path. They're all really worth playing through. I haven't tried Jenna's path and probably won't (she shouldn't have gotten that tattoo, it's her own fault) but I don't doubt it's a very well written path as well.

 

[DaFlurbIsHere]

I know it's impossible, but man, it would be a kick if Lydia had

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... The woman is starting to give me quite the Acting Lessons vibe.

 

[Lord Soth]

I thought much the same, who could beat Steph? But both other main routes (Vanessa & Ellie) are amazing as well. Vanessa is such a lovely, well-written character... and Ellie is a 19-year old girl from a very dysfunctional family way in over her head, in both versions of her path. They're all really worth playing through. I haven't tried Jenna's path and probably won't (she shouldn't have gotten that tattoo, it's her own fault) but I don't doubt it's a very well written path as well.

Yeah I will try the other routes for sure but Steph will be my fave I think. She may be a bit insecure but she's very affectionate in her path and has great humour. Plus if you get her tits enlarged, easily the hottest bod around. I love me some athletic, busty blondes

Lydia has a nice bod too, but her face? not the hottest. That blotchy skin...ugh.

Vanessa looks pretty nice and seems sweet, plus her daughter...heh. Ellie is cute, tho a bit skinny for my taste and her looks don't appeal to me too much, but going for her sisters...hell yeah. Yeah I'm a sick dude

 

[dolfe67]

Lydia has a nice bod too, but her face? not the hottest. That blotchy skin...ugh.

Yeah she really has a bad skin. Looks like she never got out of puberty xD

 

[Lord Soth]

Shit I think I may have screwed up on this playthrough and missed the Steph gets new tits option
Probably because I didn't complete the surgeon's work in time?
Ah well, non bimbo Steph is gorgeous too.

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[Ferel]

That scene made me feel awful. MC and Naomi didn't cuck Jenna, cucking is when the watching party enjoys it. She was basically forced to watch her boyfriend cheat on her (Jenna made it clear multiple times that she wanted it to stop if she couldn't be involved). I played Ellie's dark path and never once felt bad about cheating on her with her mother and sisters but seeing Jenna cry while Naomi fucked the MC and humiliated her was too much for me lol, i had to reload and stop the scene. It was absolutely brutal.

Well, I can relate. It seemed too harsh for me too. At least in the beginning.
But, after that initial "snap". When it became obvious, that Jenna is in fact, aroused and enjoying herself, at least to some degree. It became really hot. After all, she is not a main LI, and doesn't have that much of a story, from player's perspective. All we know about Jenna, isn't really in her favor either. So, bringing her home and fucking behind Steph's back, makes me feel bad. Cucking her that way, not really.

 

[gregers]

Shit I think I may have screwed up on this playthrough and missed the Steph gets new tits option
Probably because I didn't complete the surgeon's work in time?
Ah well, non bimbo Steph is gorgeous too.

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Yeah, it's one of the less obvious things in the game: Completing the work for the surgeon is a prerequisite for Bimbo Steph, whereas completing the work for the exterminator is a prerequisite for adding her to the Boys Team, making Bimbo Steph + Boys Team a bad combination as you can't complete both on time.

not much content?? cosidering there are 4-5 path with very different story\scene i must say this is far away from "not much content"

You realize you're responding to a comment from three years ago right? It is just possible there's been a bit of content added since then.

damn it ended so soon...something isn't very well explained... for example..

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.
wanna ask this... in till now there are no scene with Helena, ellie's mother, right?

There's a scene with Helena in 0.13 on Ellie's dark path (see the walkthrough for details). Haven't played 0.14 yet, so don't know about that.

(I agree somewhat that up to that point the characterization of Lydia (and the MC's relationship with her) is a bit all over the place, but I hope that that is intentional and it'll all come together in the end.)

 

[WarriorSteel]

at certain point when MC find out the cctv about Lydia and the car...he says i must confront lydia about her lies...but this never happen.

It does happen, but only if you do it the first time that option shows up. The second time that option shows up uses the same dialogue as the first time, that is why it is confusing. It has already been reported.

and the update ends

That was intentional, WP said he wanted to stop Lydia's path in a cliffhanger. After the Vanessa's update, he will go back to Lydia.

 

[Enziltha]

The Old Computer has some odd, weird bugs that appear from time to time. I am in process (it is taking a while) of completely ripping out the old computer entirely and replacing it with the significantly improved new one. At the time I was doing some really bad coding (I didn't know better at the time, I learnt all my code from YouTube tutorials initially) using hundreds of flags to send the player back to certain points instead of just Returning out of the screen which is what the new computer does. It sounds like that specific save has a flag set incorrectly from an earlier use of the computer, and the connection from the team screen to the old laptop is using it to send you back to the certain point it thinks you're at. As it didn't disable the exit flag, it has also not disabled the news flags either that's why they then reappear when you go back to part of the game using the old PC.

For now I'd recommend just not clicking that one, the best character to send from the Boys Team for that mission is

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or if you let me know specifically where it returns you to, I can check what flag that would be and you can use the Dev Console to turn it to False. A new save will also fix it.

In the future when the old laptop is ripped out these flags will be redundant and not do anything, so if you can just ignore clicking there for now it will be fixed when the old computer is removed.

Thanks WhitePhantom for your reply, but that's only part of the issue. As I mentioned when you say goodnight to Ellie, when you get woken up by the phone call the view of the news page gets overlaid on top of everything. that's before you choose your team and the PC bug, I was able to get past that by choosing someone (Your suggestion was not on the team in this playthrough) instead of reviewing the team. But when I chose to review the team, and then it bugs when clicking "go back to laptop". It appears to go back to when you're in the office and you get the voicemails and choose someone for the previous mission of finding out the woman in the recordings, after choosing someone it goes back to office on Sam's first day. But it still has the news overlay issue from that point, no matter what. Even if something else clears the screen, if I choose to look at news on the recordings screen it looks like normal, but when it goes back to the main screen it's overlaid again.


It seems to be two bugs, maybe related or not.
I tried to attach my save if that would help.

 

[Talmadge]

Gotta say. Like the way that it seems more life-like than other games. Steph wanted a condom because she doesn't want to get pregnant. And then they really use it in the scene instead of bare-backing it anyways. So far, seems like a great game. I'm really digging the storyline.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

It does happen, but only if you do it the first time that option shows up. The second time that option shows up uses the same dialogue as the first time, that is why it is confusing. It has already been reported.

Has it been fixed for the 2nd time?

 

[binkdink420]

Yeah she really has a bad skin. Looks like she never got out of puberty xD

Gingers are my fav but the dev doesn't seem to be that big of a fan. Lydia, Fleur, the chick from the dogging scene with Emma, seems he only uses them as crazy sluts. Wish he would've used them for at least one of the main LIs (and gave Lydia a better skin care routine.) Overall though I love the game and can't wait to see where it all goes but it would've been among my all time favs if he would've used the gingers better.

 

[Varrilete]

WhitePhantom since it has 4 teams to pick can you make four or five saveslots instead of the standard 3. And can you add the option we can name them?

if u like good renders, a nice story to read, and some (if u choose) really perv situations like fuking your girl´s mom and sister its the game for u
Its in my top 10