CaptainBipto

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Exactly. More options in consensual encounters are "planned", more combat options with a dojo are coming, more school classes, a Prison. There are a LOT more things slated to come at somepoint and who's to say that the things you're looking for wont come in the next update or the next or the next. At its core this game is a "rape ptsd manage your truama" dealy with a heavy bent towards being the punching bag/rape toy for peeps/beasts but is also so much more. We probably wont ever get to "turn the tables" on our attackers but we certianly get our moments like jizzing in peeps food, stealing from everyone with no remorse, bulling and lots of other events were we get to put one over on someone and it's these little things that add up to a greater whole. You can sell flowers. Flowers! Tell me another game that lets you do that in the "porn" genre. I like how Vrel continues to add our and his visions towards this game and still keep to the strong basic narrative at the beginning but still allows for some deviation that doesn't detract from it. 5 stars would bang.
You can turn the tables on Whitney. Once you have her dominance down to zero, there is a random night encounter (not sure what all the requirements are though) where she tries to have you kidnapped and she ends up being the one hauled away to be a broken rape toy. Always brings a smile to my face when I trigger that event on a new character.
 

CaptainBipto

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How do you get to Remy/Underground Farm?
If you go into the Bus Station, there is a mysterious black van you can check out, which will lead you to the farm.
There is a random street event, where you are asked to help load some boxes and on rare occasion they will kidnap you and take you to the farm.
I think: If you fight Bailey enough times and lose or just refuse to pay and submit, you can be taken to the farm.
 

dalzomo

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Yeah, no one game can please all players. I don't understand people who rage about it instead of just moving on.
 

Midge

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You can turn the tables on Whitney. Once you have her dominance down to zero, there is a random night encounter (not sure what all the requirements are though) where she tries to have you kidnapped and she ends up being the one hauled away to be a broken rape toy. Always brings a smile to my face when I trigger that event on a new character.
That's not you(as the PC) turning the tables though as the kidnappers choose Whitney over you. It would be if you pushed Whitney over to them and said "take her/him instead". And you can even rescue them later from the sex dungeon(with high skulldugery). Not once do you get the option to rape someone, bind them or any other overtly agressive thing to peeps. Actually maybe there are a FEW times(fighting wolves to become Alpha etc) but just not to the extent that others want from this game. They want to initiate all that stuff but at its core that's just not what this game is about and i personaly would like it to stay like that.
And hey, peeps are entitled to their opinions just like everyone else but also like everyone they, and the thing they are talking about, are not above being critisied. We just ask that it is at least constructive criticisms as this game is not without it's flaws that could be fixed or looked at but also they should be aware of the Devs intent for adding to and keeping the game to specific themes and concepts.
 
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MrCrazy123

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I understand people are really into the rape fantasy. But I really don't understand why they want this game to be that when other games are already that.

You can't make the argument that it would make the game better because simply offering more things is not better. Ever heard the term 'mile wide, inch deep'? You want to pick something as a developer and deliver on that theme and the theme of 'be a rapist' doesn't really fit.

That's different from stuff like wanting to have consensual options when you're sleeping with people you've gained relationships with, or requesting certain actions of your rapist, those can enhance the experience. But lots of people who come in here seem to fundamentally want a different game, and thats weird and annoying to see come up so often.
 

Midge

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I understand people are really into the rape fantasy. But I really don't understand why they want this game to be that when other games are already that.

You can't make the argument that it would make the game better because simply offering more things is not better. Ever heard the term 'mile wide, inch deep'? You want to pick something as a developer and deliver on that theme and the theme of 'be a rapist' doesn't really fit.

That's different from stuff like wanting to have consensual options when you're sleeping with people you've gained relationships with, or requesting certain actions of your rapist, those can enhance the experience. But lots of people who come in here seem to fundamentally want a different game, and thats weird and annoying to see come up so often.
What other games please? And i don't see why it should count either for or against that
'other games" are like this or that as they are not THIS game. THIS game IS about being the rapee not the rapist and it is "others" coming in here and asking for it to change not us "fantasy rape play" peeps. Also "'mile wide, inch deep'?" really? Have you been to the Tenticle plains or searched through the ruins under the city? There is a wellspring of themes in this game if you look for it and have you heard of 'just the tip of the iceburg'?
And please do list the other games where you are the rapee trying to survive without help or combat experience, as i really like these kind of games and am always looking for more to play like Overgrown Genisis.
 
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MrCrazy123

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Hmm? No I'm on your side, I want the people who keep complaining the game doesn't let you rape people to heck off to other games that offer that.

I don't know of any other games that deliver the concept of 'rapee' quite as well as this one.
 
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xanon515x

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It would be fantastic to have people talking about modding in gameplay they want instead of trying to get the dev to do what they wish. Choice is fantastic but time and patience are limited resources.

The game has like 3 more contributors aside from Vrel him/herself, you guys could just chose to code the consensual stuff and Vrel would probably be happy to add it into the game.
 

Midge

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Hmm? No I'm on your side, I want the people who keep complaining the game doesn't let you rape people to heck off to other games that offer that.

I don't know of any other games that deliver the concept of 'rapee' quite as well as this one.
Yep reread what you posted with the new context. My bad :cool:
 

BeholdTheWizzard

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In theory yes, in practice no.
Sometimes it is so.
More content for me means less content for you. And vice versa. o it' a common fear that if hte dev spends time on content you do not want, there is less.
Which means that in the end all once can do is fight to get the content one wants, there is not right and wrong here, only conflicting interests.

But at least in this case, it would be something that is trivial to implement (so minimal time and resources required) and would not affect you in any way really. So again, why does the possiblity of MC having some more control in some cases scare you that much?

And please, no Argumentum Ad Absurdum. Read what was written before going panic mode.
Wanting to be able to suggest to your loved one what to do in bed and wanting to rape everyone you meat are two completely differnet things, universes apart.
 

illusionxxx

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And the machnics/code is already there. You can already convince the AI to NOT do X, so the opposite should be trivial to implement.
Adding that would be contrary to the spirit of the game. It'd be like adding guns to Skyrim. Sure you can just say "don't like it don't use it", but the very fact that it exists is detrimental to the experience. Same here. If you want it, mod it.
 

Midge

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Sometimes it is so.
More content for me means less content for you. And vice versa. o it' a common fear that if hte dev spends time on content you do not want, there is less.
Which means that in the end all once can do is fight to get the content one wants, there is not right and wrong here, only conflicting interests.

But at least in this case, it would be something that is trivial to implement (so minimal time and resources required) and would not affect you in any way really. So again, why does the possiblity of MC having some more control in some cases scare you that much?

And please, no Argumentum Ad Absurdum. Read what was written before going panic mode.
Wanting to be able to suggest to your loved one what to do in bed and wanting to rape everyone you meat are two completely differnet things, universes apart.
What you are asking for is being cosidered and will be likely added to the game. Vrel has stated before when this was asked on the blogspot "it's on the list". I'm all for the addition of more controll for the PC but it has to be in the right context for the game. Like i said before more consensual stuff is planned and would be welcomed. As well as some BDSM type of rolls where you become a DOM(even if unwillingly) would also not go astray(especially in the temple or with Winter[though they would most likely be the dom]). But being able to rape others would feel too contrary to the games core. Just like murder or snuff would be also be too out of place for this game.
So in short yes, but also no.
 
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anubis1970

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Sometimes it is so.
More content for me means less content for you. And vice versa. o it' a common fear that if hte dev spends time on content you do not want, there is less.
Which means that in the end all once can do is fight to get the content one wants, there is not right and wrong here, only conflicting interests.

But at least in this case, it would be something that is trivial to implement (so minimal time and resources required) and would not affect you in any way really. So again, why does the possiblity of MC having some more control in some cases scare you that much?

And please, no Argumentum Ad Absurdum. Read what was written before going panic mode.
Wanting to be able to suggest to your loved one what to do in bed and wanting to rape everyone you meat are two completely differnet things, universes apart.
Personally I don't care one way or another. My post was simply in reply to your broad statement that more options means a better game for everyone.

I have no personal stake in what Vrel chooses to add or implement. If he adds things I don't enjoy I'll simply avoid that content, and if he doesn't add something I would like I'll just find a different game to fulfill that desire. I just think it's a mistake for a developer to try and make one game that will please everyone.
 

PurityGuy

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Personally I don't care one way or another. My post was simply in reply to your broad statement that more options means a better game for everyone.

I have no personal stake in what Vrel chooses to add or implement. If he adds things I don't enjoy I'll simply avoid that content, and if he doesn't add something I would like I'll just find a different game to fulfill that desire. I just think it's a mistake for a developer to try and make one game that will please everyone.
You're right, but Vrel has also been adamant about not adding certain things despite multiple requests. Plus, there's a reason so many things are behind toggles.
 
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But being able to rape others would feel too contrary to the games core. Just like murder or snuff would be also be too out of place for this game.
So in short yes, but also no.
All those requests to implement extremely assertive stuff to the game which is basically an exercise on being on the receiving end is akin to looking for straight-only content in a transformation/sissification game. Why can't some gamers simply accept DoL for what it is?
 

BeholdTheWizzard

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Adding that would be contrary to the spirit of the game. It'd be like adding guns to Skyrim. Sure you can just say "don't like it don't use it", but the very fact that it exists is detrimental to the experience. Same here. If you want it, mod it.
It is not contrary nor detremental.
Read again.
Stop jumping to conclusions.
 

PurityGuy

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The ability for the player to be more "aggressive" is a tough topic for sure. The most you have right now is the usual Defiant play style, and as fun as attacking people with your voice through the Demand action and pretending you're the dragonborn is, some people want more. Somewhat recently, the player has gained the ability to harass people who are locked in the pillory. It's certainly a step towards giving more control to the player, even if it is only on a helpless, locked up criminal.

Only Vrel knows what he has intended for the player's ability to gain control, so let's just wait and see. The only things I've seen him averse to are excessive gore, death, and a few other bodily fluid-based fetishes.
 
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Midge

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It is not contrary nor detremental.
Read again.
Stop jumping to conclusions.
Can you please expand apon this so we can see how you got to this conclusion? In what way is it not contrary nor detremental, i actually want to know so please don't just hand wave this question please. If you are just talking about having more options in consensual encounters then i agree, but if you are talking about "roll reversal" or "turning the tables" please provide the beniffits of adding it besides "to satisfy some peeps".
Ok i just read through this "chain" again and it seems to me that this stems from not knowing the "cause" of why this town is how it is(Rapeville 24/7) and there is an in-game reason as well as the "it's how the Dev wants it" but in the end it is really all comes down to what things Vrel wants and to what degree they want it added. So imma shout out to Vrelnir here if you want please comment on this subject that we are all finding so involving ATM. Or don't up to you really.
 
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