I'm curious where this forced loss was, as I've avoided that sort of thing.
Apologies if my messages comes off harsh, but i try to share my experience unfiltered.
The event was taking robins debt than refusing to pay. It seems impossible to physically fight out of it. I even got so annoyed with it at 4AM that i cheated and no bueno, it was "impossible".
Fighting is already an extremely difficult strategy, this feels like a kick in the teeth.
After a discussion with a friend there may be options impossible to my character right now so I'm training up before trying again.
I'm currently training my character in other ways to see if there other routs, but either way a rout has been blocked and a build ignored.
Again, my experience. I may be wrong about something but whatever it is wasn't apparent.
Oh also holy shit decreasing purity is a chore.