There a completed walkthrough available yet? I have no idea how to start the harem route or get the lily route.
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The walkthrough in the OP is still current, so you can refer to that.
There's no harem route available ...yet.
You can get on Lily's path by either giving up while you are working out with Lori or by selecting "Go Home" after the introduction.
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Hereeeeeeeeee some insights:
- This game is not completed at the moment, lacking several path, including harem.
- Eve, Michelle, Gwen and Lily path are completd, each path with different variant based on desicions... and all include a different variant of the mother path.
- This is not a NTR game, not even a sharing one.
- This game is not completed at the moment, lacking several path, including harem.
- Eve, Michelle, Gwen and Lily path are completd, each path with different variant based on desicions... and all include a different variant of the mother path.
- This is not a NTR game, not even a sharing one.
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your game already has "NTR" ...
sorry for google translation
the game already has "NTR"
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Let the debate begins!
Hi Rando Civ Korben Dallas ! Guys, this remade update was exactly what we needed to keep our thirst for your game in check ahahah! You know i am one of your huge fans, just keep doing what you are doing amazingly well already! And of course NTR and everything is necessary! It is your game, we just have been invited to your train of imagination! Please please more action with Mom, MC and perhaps the other brother too, if it is in your plans! Have a good one!
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Your game has NTR. Michelle cheating on you is 100% NTR. It causes emotional impact to the players and pisses the MC off when he finds out. No idea why you think just a cheating tag covers it. Usually when I see a cheating tag it means the MC is the one doing the cheating.
From dictionary.com:
netorare
or NTR [neh-tuh-rah-ray]
WHAT DOES NETORARE MEAN?
Netorare is a genre of anime, manga, or video game focused on infidelity. Commonly a subgenre of pornographic hentai anime, netorare storylines typically focus on the internal distress caused by one member in a relationship cheating on the other.
From dictionary.com:
netorare
or NTR [neh-tuh-rah-ray]
WHAT DOES NETORARE MEAN?
Netorare is a genre of anime, manga, or video game focused on infidelity. Commonly a subgenre of pornographic hentai anime, netorare storylines typically focus on the internal distress caused by one member in a relationship cheating on the other.
With all due respect, if you don’t enjoy this game, just don’t follow it. Please don’t spread “definitions” and negativity here and there. We like this game as it is, Rando and Korben have been fantastic, that’s all. Let it have whatever kink they want. That’s my take, again with respect.
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Netorare is not simply infidelity. It is the fetishization of jealousy and the feelings of humiliation associated with it. Often, the stolen significant other will emasculate or admonish the cuckold to heighten the feelings of inadequacy and loss. NTR is not polyamory (sharing) and it is not betrayal of monogomy (cheating). It is the wallowing in negative feelings and heartache that come with a romantic partner being stolen away.
None of that describes the MC's reaction to Michelle cheating. None of that describes Michelle's reaction to her own cheating. In fact, as Rando points out, the MC has the option to get revenge by sleeping with her friend and mother and also has the option to punish Michelle sexually while denying her request to rekindle the relationship. There is no jealousy nor wallowing done by the MC.
That said, neither Rando nor I are fans of netorare and we have no plans to add it to the game. If that changes at any point in the future, we will update the game thread tags at that time. However, that tag does not accurately represent the scene in question and adding it would send the wrong message about the contents of our game.
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No, not really. Netorare is the fetishisation of infidelity and the humilliation, heart break and anxiety that comes with it, not the infidelity per se (that's one of the reasons why there are two tags for it on the webpage).
If you get mad, well, that makes sense, it's what i'm looking for. You getting angry at Johny getting betrayed like that, but not finding any sort of enjoyment out of it (which is why we never see James and Michelle have sex, because it would be disgusting). But at no point do I find or pretend to make people find sexual gratification on the suffering of the character getting cheated on. I would even dare say that Michelle it's the only one that gets to be an actual cuckquean because you have to fuck her mom and her rival at the same time in order to reach one of the endings and there is nothing she can do about it, even worse, she still wants to be with you afterwards despite Johny filling up all of her mom's holes... and well, it makes sense it makes you feel bad, it's a bad ending after all. I could even argue that's a bit of netori, but not entirely sure since you don't steal anything from anyone.
I understand this is a very touchy issue, especially because I wanted to explore infidelity in a more realistic fashion (yes, even in a game full of robots, magic and monsters) and why it happens, in this case, your choice of not pushing Michelle into being a little more confident and to love herself, makes her insecure and afraid. Which makes her cheat with someone she thinks she can feel a connection, this person being her best friend's boyfriend: James (Who also gets cheated on and reacts accordingly. Not once trying to sexualize her pain, but rather to give her a human reaction and with all the bittersweetness of a revenge fuck, if you ever had one, you get what I mean).
Of couse, following this idea. I wanted the results of this infidelity to be realistic too. Her best friend (Jasmine in this case) either want's revenge and fucks the MC or she simply stops being her friend and sees her as less than an annoying bug. The remorse in Michelle's words, if you decide to fuck Jasmine, is also something I wanted to explore without making her feel like a smug FMC in an ntr manga, something I personally don't like and rather get a realistic attitude of her (if anyone has seen or been with a woman that has cheated, they will tell she behaves in such way due to internalized shame).
As the Walkthrough says: YOUR CHOICES MATTER. You will get different results from what you decide to do or say. Some of these will be good, some will be bad. But at no point do you ever actually find netorare in the game. Anger is a realistic and, on average, more normal response to infidelity. Making the MC submissive to Michelle's desires of having sex with other men, or making him feel sad and unable to leave her due to some misguided idea of love, or have her rub his suffering on his face because it makes her wet or some bullshit like that. THAT would make it netorare. But that's not happening in the story and to say otherwise, is disingenuous and it would mean we are lying to both fans of netorare and non fans alike.
More importantly, you never really get back with her. The game itself clarifies that: "Taking you back would be the biggest mistake I could ever make!" the romantic connection is completely severed in that ending and in the other is left open to interpretation since both of you are now sex toys for Natasha.
As for the part with her dad... well, a big incest family on all sides sounded funny to me. And more importantly, the MC reacts in a completely different way from what Netorare protags do.
With that said. I don't think people seems to understand the difference between Netorare, Netori or Netorase or even what they actually are. So a discussion about this was innevitable, I knew it was coming the moment I finished Michelle's route. But again, that's only one choice in a VN full of them. You can always avoid it if you want.
TL;DR: Netorare is not the only about cheating. There is none in the script due to it being designed to explore infidelity and how this affects people but not to find pleasure or gratification on the heart break. The reaction of the MC in no moment is full submission to her wishes, quite the oppossite actually.
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A number of people (Lysergic Syazinhaus Virgile85 milfkiller ) were asking for a fully unlocked gallery so I've attached a persistent save file down below. I'll be adding an "Unlock Gallery" button in the next release, but this will tide everyone over until then, hopefully.
Work on the next release is progressing. It will feature the continuation of Lori's path. In addition to that, there will be lactation play that I'm personally excited to see. Based on the teasers that Rando has shown me, fans of mom and Marion will be pretty fucking happy! Rando has also said this will be the largest content update yet and the craziest one too.
I'm working on a patch for the game, a tracker to let the players know which content they have and have not seen, and a walkthrough mod. Overall, this will be the biggest update for the game we've released, both in terms of content and game functionality.
Unfortunately, we don't have a release date for you yet. We still have a lot of work ahead of us, but we believe it will be worth the wait. In the meantime, let's all tell 2020 to get fucked and look forward to a better year in 2021! Happy New Year!
Work on the next release is progressing. It will feature the continuation of Lori's path. In addition to that, there will be lactation play that I'm personally excited to see. Based on the teasers that Rando has shown me, fans of mom and Marion will be pretty fucking happy! Rando has also said this will be the largest content update yet and the craziest one too.
I'm working on a patch for the game, a tracker to let the players know which content they have and have not seen, and a walkthrough mod. Overall, this will be the biggest update for the game we've released, both in terms of content and game functionality.Unfortunately, we don't have a release date for you yet. We still have a lot of work ahead of us, but we believe it will be worth the wait. In the meantime, let's all tell 2020 to get fucked and look forward to a better year in 2021! Happy New Year!
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Happy New Year, fellows! My and my fever wishes nothing but the best to all of you this year!
And yes, I know I have issues.
And yes, I know I have issues.
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Can you replicate that error? Are you getting that same error whenever you try to save a game?
Is this the first time you've played or do you have previous saves?