DKOC

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That is the truth. No doubt about it. But the people I have a problem with is the ones who expect it to follow up on so many promises that weren't made, especially not to them.

PS: I wished this site was more civilized. It's crazy how pretty much all the threads fight over nonsensical shit; I'd love to have a separate thread for fighting over shit and the actual game's main thread.
This thread is so uncivilized because die-hard fans keep flagging topics that are on topic, as off-topic, and a mod comes in and deletes it. I had 3 civil feedback posts here for 3 different versions, posted last year, and all got flagged and deleted, so I stopped bothering to post feedback here. Same is likely true for a lot of people. You can't expect things to be civil, when the civil posts get deleted, but the uncivil posts remain. It is what it is.
 
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DKOC

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Yeah, totally agree on that, it's still an early access game, and it is bound to change and evolve, but I can only judge the game on what it is, not what it might be.
You mean technical prototype. Early Access, regardless of what its called on various distributors (itch/gog/steam/epic), is a one-time fee. This is pay per month. So its more like what 3DXChat did in its early years. A monthly paid subscription service.
 

Astcit

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does msi afterburner also count in fps counter?
No, it hooks the api, and is it's own thread/process.
The problem with the fps counter in-game is the way it was done, it's either really stupid and is literally adding 1 to a integer after every single frame drawn, or it's calling a UI refresh every single frame it counts.
Both ways fuck your performance the higher your fps is, because it has to do it more and faster. And that's why it's probably such a big fps impact as the 5fps said by VanillaLover.

The tesselation problem is a known issue of years with games that don't optimize it for both AMD and Nvidia. Nvidia's drivers apparently receive calls to do it at 64x and handle it on it's own to lower levels based on LoDs or something, I don't remember exactly. While AMD drivers reveice calls to do 64x and literally do the fucking thing at 64x, which is both stupid and extremelly excessive amount of polygons subdivided for shit that barelly needs like 8x, thus why AMD tanks HARD when the game doesn't care to which driver it is spitting shit.

Nowadays AMD drivers handle it a little more smartly, but still, again as VanillaLover noted, it's a big performance hit when the game doesn't fucking care what it is doing with what (which is a problem to be solved on beta phase or later on optimization passes).
 
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Agent_Smith

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You mean technical prototype. Early Access, regardless of what its called on various distributors (itch/gog/steam/epic), is a one-time fee. This is pay per month. So its more like what 3DXChat did in its early years. A monthly paid subscription service.
Wait... This game is a live service subscription -scam- game?! Well, see y'all later. I'm unfollowing this game.
 

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Wait... This game is a live service subscription -scam- game?! Well, see y'all later. I'm unfollowing this game.
Scam, unsure, but its worse than a live service subscription, because at least with those you get monthly updates, even if they are small. Here its 3ish months between updates. You also don't own the game at all. Once your subscription is up, you cannot log in or play at all.
 

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Scam, unsure, but its worse than a live service subscription, because at least with those you get monthly updates, even if they are small. Here its 3ish months between updates. You also don't own the game at all. Once your subscription is up, you cannot log in or play at all.
This dev makes Blizzard, EA, and Ubisoft look nice by comparison.
 
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Wait... This game is a live service subscription -scam- game?! Well, see y'all later. I'm unfollowing this game.
Scam, unsure, but its worse than a live service subscription, because at least with those you get monthly updates, even if they are small. Here its 3ish months between updates. You also don't own the game at all. Once your subscription is up, you cannot log in or play at all.
This dev makes Blizzard, EA, and Ubisoft look nice by comparison.
No the paid Patreon demo is live service. There is no shot the final release has a login feature. There's no full game to own right now, it's just a beta demo.
 

Agent_Smith

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I mean yeah that's already how Patreon works, it's not too absurd to extend that to demo access. If you don't like it, wait for the full release or use the crack like the rest of us.

It's just DRM, nothing new.
I was just confused is all with the game requiring a login screen and stuff. DRM can jump right into the sun.
 

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if there's tentacle in her vagina, you can fuck with any number of tentacles without any punishment and even if you stack up eggs and cum in her pussy it's not going to cause you any harm there's going to be only 1 tentacle lol.
Dev should fix.
 

VanillaLover

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This may just be a beta demo. Still, charging a monthly subscription? For a demo? Doesn't make sense to me.
Get used to it. Patreon did it first, and it'll stay that way basically forever unless some politician in the EU hates it and does something.
 

LAMLANLAM

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In the next update we need:
1) Anti-arousal pills, so as not to interact with this mechanic at all.
2) Translation of the game into different languages and we are not talking about professional translation, but a simpler one, for example, machine translation. In any case, this will be needed someday. Not all people know English, before it was not particularly needed, but with the advent of quests and dialogues, now there is a need for it.
3) Remove unknown merchants, make them personalized, that is, add photos to them.
4) Make more clothes and perhaps make it somehow more significant than ordinary armor. It is not for nothing that there are 3 classes of human opponents and 3 types of clothes in the game. So that with a full set of one clothes you could calmly wander among people belonging to one or another corporation. Until someone declares war on each other. Although this is the best income, but constantly killing everything alive also gets boring.
5) Make the last location a little lighter, otherwise you can't see a damn thing whether it's night or day.
6) Remove all the bugs, that's natural
 
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Lewd Wolfe

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I mean yeah that's already how Patreon works, it's not too absurd to extend that to demo access. If you don't like it, wait for the full release or use the crack like the rest of us.

It's just DRM, nothing new.
People don't like paying for an unfinished product every month because it's not clear how it will all end. During the time this game or others are in development, an amount equal to the cost of several AAA games can accumulate. The correct system is implemented in Steam - you pay only once for a game in early access.
 
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jllkfsdj

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What else is out there? Project Extermination?
Bruh, that game has one of THE most counter-intuitive control setups I've ever seen. It's like the dev went
"Hm, there are control schemes that have been in use for decades now and EVERYONE uses it. But why the hell should i too? Fuck em, I'll just make the most messed up, confusing and irrational mess of controls I can, see how they like it!"
 

RobAlson244

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So, after finally figuring out what I was doing wrong with the installation, I was able to play this game. I also got User ID is corrupted and it's because the Pre-Cracked version is already cracked. I figured that because there's a link to download the crack that the "Pre" part of Pre-Cracked meant that it was "before cracking" not "already cracked" but oh well.

Now, I suck at FPS games and not used to using keyboard and mouse, so after having enough of a difficult time, I lowered the difficulty and activated a few cheats.

My question though is, where am I supposed to go? I talked to the trader and then met and talked to the virtual girl. I went from the Highway to the City Outskirts then to the City where I wandered for a few hours. Then I went to the other exit to City Outskirts, followed by the other exit to the Highway. Went onto the Hoverbike, fell through the ground in a hilarious way, then went to the Swamp. Am I missing something?
 

Astcit

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Keep in mind we're fundamentally not supposed to be able to play it. While I too wish DRM would go fuck right off, I also do not blame him for implementing it. That being said, I will play it anyway because I'm a dirty pirate :Kappa:.
Not defending the dev here, since I too think it's a scam for what has been done so far, but people forget devs also need to pay rent, buy food, you know, pay to being able to continue to exist in pretty much anywhere in the planet. On bigger projects, there's also resource allocation, so you have to pay other people to do what you want how you want it done. And so on...

Now, what would allow it to go on for extended periods of time? A one-time purchase, or a subscription?
Exactly... it's sadly how the world works today. You don't make products anymore, you make services based heavily around hopes, dreams and lots and lots of lies and excuses.

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Bruh, that game has one of THE most counter-intuitive control setups I've ever seen. It's like the dev went
"Hm, there are control schemes that have been in use for decades now and EVERYONE uses it. But why the hell should i too? Fuck em, I'll just make the most messed up, confusing and irrational mess of controls I can, see how they like it!"
There is tons of extremely annoying decisions in this demo so far, the controls, UI, gigantic maps first instead of systems and gameplays implementation first. It's a clusterfuck of good ideas thrown togheter with spit and duct tape.
This one issue of controls is also so fucking easy to solve, let the user fucking rebind keys. There's tons of guides, tutorials, and free examples on how to do it in ANY Unreal Engine version.

Maybe it'll be done later, maybe not, who knows.
 
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