Arikania

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I found it the best RPGM game I ever played... Until that cross-dresser joined the group.

I could stand him dressing up silly to some extent, but he always is treated like a girl, as in joining in the mutual bath and such. That is just too much for me, and in some scenes I am even forced to watch his Willy. For me, that put an end to the game. I played on a bit, hoping that he would be gone at some point, but he only gets embedded into the story further and further. I won't play it any more!

Please kill that dude, or at least have him act like one, and give me an option to keep him out of my team and out of the onsel and out of nude scenes! If I could have made up from the Steam store page that he would be there, I wouldn't have bought it.
 

LainHarth

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I found it the best RPGM game I ever played... Until that cross-dresser joined the group.

I could stand him dressing up silly to some extent, but he always is treated like a girl, as in joining in the mutual bath and such. That is just too much for me, and in some scenes I am even forced to watch his Willy. For me, that put an end to the game. I played on a bit, hoping that he would be gone at some point, but he only gets embedded into the story further and further. I won't play it any more!

Please kill that dude, or at least have him act like one, and give me an option to keep him out of my team and out of the onsel and out of nude scenes! If I could have made up from the Steam store page that he would be there, I wouldn't have bought it.
Turn off the porn? duhhh
 

sokl

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Okay, points taken and some mistakes acknowledged.

So for the combat, I didn't find it slow even before I cheated, its just some of the bosses after that point were surviving like 4-5 weakness damage of over 10000 (I am probably oversaying it but you get the idea). So I just couldn't imagen how long would it be to fight other bosses with normal stats. For the multiple attacks, variety is cool, I agree to that. Its better to have an enemy to do more normal attacks per turn instead of instakill for one turn. My problem is that some bosses have the nuke attacks that they could use on all of their turns if rng decides to. I dunno if they have cooldown for them, but it certainly wasn't the case with the final Blessed curse. And yeah, he is the final boss, he has the right to have the hp and attack he has, I just used the bad example. Still, the fact the he used 2 or 3 of those whole party dark nuke attacks in a row and was able to somehow break through my 999 magic def and and deal like 700 dmg still bothers me and makes me wonder what is the chance of getting instawiped by such rng. Overall, still just my problem, not a fan of lategame rpg, doesn't matter the game always struggle on those.

For the bad end dungeons, all I did was just spitting out ideas that came into my head at that moment, so I wasn't really thinking about linking them into the plot and game worlds logic. About the multiple dungeon, you are probably right. They would be too big and probably a chore to go through. Maybe if they were smaller sized like ~10 floors or something, I dunno, probably still would be a chore. Or maybe keep the one dungeon but it would have like different sections for different fetishes. This would keep the importance of it's optional destruction (also, I didn't do it when I played, do you really can't go into it once you beat it?). Granted, it would mess up some other plot things, but as I said before, I didn't really take the game worlds logic into my proposals, so whatever. Oh and for the nursery dungeon, I did know that it would be a big time inconsistency, I was just thinking about it as a bonus dungeon not tied to the main story. Maybe it could be like the alternative story where that remnant that built nursery went berserk or something and made nursery into a dungeon. AGAIN, just throwing out ideas, many holes present I can guarantee you that.

And as for the King's Exit, as I said I won't play it in the nearest time for sure. And now you even say that it doesn't have proper translation that is a granted. Maybe by that time I will move on from this game. For some reason this is one of those games that left some bittersweet feeling accompanied with emptiness on me that lingers for the past few days (its rather annoying). 2 or 3 games managed to stay like that on me for some time, this is probably gonna be another one.
 

sokl

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I found it the best RPGM game I ever played... Until that cross-dresser joined the group.

I could stand him dressing up silly to some extent, but he always is treated like a girl, as in joining in the mutual bath and such. That is just too much for me, and in some scenes I am even forced to watch his Willy. For me, that put an end to the game. I played on a bit, hoping that he would be gone at some point, but he only gets embedded into the story further and further. I won't play it any more!

Please kill that dude, or at least have him act like one, and give me an option to keep him out of my team and out of the onsel and out of nude scenes! If I could have made up from the Steam store page that he would be there, I wouldn't have bought it.
Yeah I get you. Although, I am not apposed to femboys (and even welcome them if the mood is right "*rock eyebrow raise*"), I just don't like the femboys in this kind of art style, at least how his dick looks, his body is fine for me. I didn't find him that annoying tho, he does act like a spoiled, overconfident brat sometimes (not necessarily a brat, I just can't remember the right word), it just didn't piss me off I guess. I don't think he alone is a good reason to drop the game.

I dunno, just probably entirely not your kink I guess. I don't think he appears in that many porn scenes (aside from DoReMi place and bad end dungeon), so just though it out I guess?
 

Arikania

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It's not necessarily the being a femboy that bothers me, it's the behaving and being treated like one of the gals.

In DoReMi, at least he can be avoided, although, imo, he shouldn't be there in the first place. But in that snowy world, where the team has to go nude, he pops up undressed in conversations and such with his "equipment" splashing all over the screen, and he joins the girls in the mansion's hot spring, which I promply stopped visiting.

I did try to bear with him, but the more I saw him, the more distasteful I found it, up to the point where I just couldn't stand it any longer. It's not even an opinion, it's a sensation that grew stronger and stronger within me.

The fact that dickchicks are being politicized and commercialized so heavily where I live (i.e. the Netherlands) doesn't really help. That contributes much to my disgust, no doubt.
 

LainHarth

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It's not necessarily the being a femboy that bothers me, it's the behaving and being treated like one of the gals.

In DoReMi, at least he can be avoided, although, imo, he shouldn't be there in the first place. But in that snowy world, where the team has to go nude, he pops up undressed in conversations and such with his "equipment" splashing all over the screen, and he joins the girls in the mansion's hot spring, which I promply stopped visiting.

I did try to bear with him, but the more I saw him, the more distasteful I found it, up to the point where I just couldn't stand it any longer. It's not even an opinion, it's a sensation that grew stronger and stronger within me.

The fact that dickchicks are being politicized and commercialized so heavily where I live (i.e. the Netherlands) doesn't really help. That contributes much to my disgust, no doubt.
Snow Field is 100% optional, you can even choose to go with clothes , same with the hot spring where you need to talk to him lol...
 

Arikania

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Should've known before I went in that he would be there despite the fact that I didn't include him in my group, hoping to keep him out for good. But effectively, pretty much most of the erotic scenes include him after he joined. The game just won't allow me to avoid him.

I'd like to know if he'll still be there in the NG+ game? Or can I have him killed somehow xD. Because, if so, I can just download an NG+ from someone and play the game my own way, with real girls and real guys.
 

Arikania

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I totally agree with the comments above. As said before, it's really the best RPGM game I ever played. The game is created with great care which I noticed already from the very first screen that the game presented me with. Story and humor are very good. It's a pity that some things don't conform to my personal tastes, but by no means do I intend to even imply that that makes this a bad game!

If you're looking for a game where the protagonist corrupts swiftly and indulges in lewdness, this isn't the game you're looking for. But if you want to experience a compelling story with characters that you can relate to, you really should give this one a try!
 

SonaGate

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You need Lily to reach the last boss, so yea.
Another thing in the first time that you go the dungeon with only the mc and the slave you can't go too far right? I can only kill 1 monster but the other one kills the remaining party member and then there is deadend
 

LainHarth

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Another thing in the first time that you go the dungeon with only the mc and the slave you can't go too far right? I can only kill 1 monster but the other one kills the remaining party member and then there is deadend
Almost every girl in your party is a slave, but i am sure you are talking about Ange since she if the first one to join. Anyway to make it simple, only Deathpolka and Lily can attack in this dungeon and since Lily is the last character that join the party, you need to wait until very late in the game if you want to clear the dead end dun (or at least to reach the final boss, since you cant win).
 

SomePerson009

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TBH because Demon Roots game came wayyyyy after King's Exit, it's likely the author haven't even thought Demon Roots characters (I think Deathpolca and Blessed Curse is never mentioned or hinted at in King's Exit) when making King's Exit.

With Bless Curse controlling the North Half of the continent, its army, a fuck ton of white phantoms and that ultra beast, its extremely unlikely that the remaining Demons even with the nursery and permanent brainwash can defeat him. (Especially with the Demons being useless against the white phantoms) In fact, I doubt even everyone from the southern continent combined can defeat him and his forces.

By my head cannon, Blessed Curse likely possessed Najezta's big bro and continued to rule as the emperor. Blessed Curse likely won't play an active role in eliminating the Demons (as Geolouise's party and savior did the major work according to epilogue and King Exit's game) and continued to rule as Emperor. According to some comments here and in King's Exit's post, Geolouise at the end of the game inherited the hero's crest and went on to become the Great King.

In NG+ dungeon, the true Geolouise/king fight is wayyyyy harder than the blessed curse (or supreme blessed curse) fight, so I am theorizing that Great King Geolouise is capable of beating blessed curse and maybe her hero's crest can prevent Blessed Curse's possession by some shenanigan. So I guess if Blessed Curse really existed in King's Exit world, it would be Geolouise who ended his reign.

Geolouise might've not gone in a conflict with Blessed Curse, but idk cause she's against slavery as we saw in Demon Root's prologue.

Ironically I think the true ending of Demon Roots is way fitting than the "King's Exit ending" as the prologue to King's Exit. Blessed Curse is that fucking op, if he were to take an active role against the Demon in the war there would be no need for Geolouise's party.
Arbent talks about the Empire when you fight Brainwashed Kudan in King Exit. They managed to destroy it somehow and to be fair it wouldn't be impossible if the Demons somehow ended up getting Kudan on their side with permanent brainwashing, the guy was a beast at fighting.
 

HV10

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Arbent talks about the Empire when you fight Brainwashed Kudan in King Exit. They managed to destroy it somehow and to be fair it wouldn't be impossible if the Demons somehow ended up getting Kudan on their side with permanent brainwashing, the guy was a beast at fighting.
If the demons managed to permanent brainwash Kudan and a majority of the imperial soldiers, then I guess their chance is not zero. But tbh I'd still think Blessed Curse would've won due to him having tens of thousands of white phantom and that ultra beast white phantom. (And Blessed Curse is a pretty smart being, so he probably won't let the demons brainwash his forces for free)

If the demon want to win vs the Empire they need to find a way to
1. Beat the imperial army, in which even a fraction of it can overwhelm the combined slave forces from the southern continent.
2. Beat tens of thousands of white phantom, which with the hero's shield's buff, one unit could kill remnant and/or thousands of demons no problem. This means the demon need to destroy the hero's shield which none of them know the importance or existence of it in the king's exit route.
3. Beat the white phantom ultra beast (even w/o hero shield's buff still beat Fuh), which one shotted the Deathpolca's party during the "True ending" route and beat Fuh. I doubt Kudan, who lost to Mebius and commander, would be able to kill it alone. This means the demon at least needs Fuh's help, who likely won't join the Demons w/o Deathpolca.
4. Enter in the reversed world tree and destroy Blessed Curse's true body, which again needed Deathpolca. (Unless the demons burn the entire thing down or something and that somehow destroyed Blessed Curse's true body)

On that note Blessed Curse being able to possess Ultra Beast is fucking broken lol. Guy have thousands of years to gather his forces and never bothered to get more than one ultra beast white phatom. (But tbh if he does then it'd be a real ass pull for Deathpolca's party to beat him)
 
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Tahxeol

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On that note Blessed Curse being able to possess Ultra Beast is fucking broken lol. Guy have thousands of years to gather his forces and never bothered to get more than one ultra beast white phatom. (But tbh if he does then it'd be a real ass pull for Deathpolca's party to beat him)
To be fair, why would Blessed Curse even need more than one? I don't know how strong it is compared to ultra beast Gon (the one on top of the moutain), but this beast was ignoring the party as it tried to kill it, and only flew off in the end because those four ants were annoying
 

SomePerson009

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If the demons managed to permanent brainwash Kudan and a majority of the imperial soldiers, then I guess their chance is not zero. But tbh I'd still think Blessed Curse would've won due to him having tens of thousands of white phantom and that ultra beast white phantom. (And Blessed Curse is a pretty smart being, so he probably won't let the demons brainwash his forces for free)

If the demon want to win vs the Empire they need to find a way to
1. Beat the imperial army, in which even a fraction of it can overwhelm the combined slave forces from the southern continent.
2. Beat tens of thousands of white phantom, which with the hero's shield's buff, one unit could kill remnant and/or thousands of demons no problem. This means the demon need to destroy the hero's shield which none of them know the importance or existence of it in the king's exit route.
3. Beat the white phantom ultra beast (even w/o hero shield's buff still beat Fuh), which one shotted the Deathpolca's party during the "True ending" route and beat Fuh. I doubt Kudan, who lost to Mebius and commander, would be able to kill it alone. This means the demon at least needs Fuh's help, who likely won't join the Demons w/o Deathpolca.
4. Enter in the reversed world tree and destroy Blessed Curse's true body, which again needed Deathpolca. (Unless the demons burn the entire thing down or something and that somehow destroyed Blessed Curse's true body)

On that note Blessed Curse being able to possess Ultra Beast is fucking broken lol. Guy have thousands of years to gather his forces and never bothered to get more than one ultra beast white phatom. (But tbh if he does then it'd be a real ass pull for Deathpolca's party to beat him)
The situation is so weird, there's also the fact that Bless Curse (As the Emperor) apparently betrayed Kudan and handed him over to the Demons according to Arbent. To this day we still don't know the reason for doing so and to be fair the first 2 points would have been easily solved with the permanent brainwashing and nursery. I'm confident that would significantly boost the Demon Army to the point it could go toe to toe with the Imperial one. The Remnants wouldn't have to stick in Bohelos either since they wouldn't need to carefully oversee everything they do as they used to with their few numbers while Polca was around, so you would probably expect the Remnants to take a more direct approach. Now here's something I don't understand, are White Phantoms just OP in general or just with Demons? Because if it's latter case it would be manageable. Keep in mind that Kudan lost because Geolund and Mebius are actually powerful themselves on the power scale; with Mebius and Geolund being S tier (Geolund isn't shown but stated to be as strong as Mebius). As for the Hero's shield, it could be possible the Demons would find out through brainwashing Kudan (Scathatch is good at reading minds and gathering information) as he seemed to know at the time but that's a bit of a stretch, and Roby too joined her fellow Remnants in the surface at some point and she is quite strong herself. Overall I wish we would know how they managed to beat the Empire in the King Exit's timeline.
 

HV10

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The situation is so weird, there's also the fact that Bless Curse (As the Emperor) apparently betrayed Kudan and handed him over to the Demons according to Arbent. To this day we still don't know the reason for doing so and to be fair the first 2 points would have been easily solved with the permanent brainwashing and nursery. I'm confident that would significantly boost the Demon Army to the point it could go toe to toe with the Imperial one. The Remnants wouldn't have to stick in Bohelos either since they wouldn't need to carefully oversee everything they do as they used to with their few numbers while Polca was around, so you would probably expect the Remnants to take a more direct approach. Now here's something I don't understand, are White Phantoms just OP in general or just with Demons? Because if it's latter case it would be manageable. Keep in mind that Kudan lost because Geolund and Mebius are actually powerful themselves on the power scale; with Mebius and Geolund being S tier (Geolund isn't shown but stated to be as strong as Mebius). As for the Hero's shield, it could be possible the Demons would find out through brainwashing Kudan (Scathatch is good at reading minds and gathering information) as he seemed to know at the time but that's a bit of a stretch, and Roby too joined her fellow Remnants in the surface at some point and she is quite strong herself. Overall I wish we would know how they managed to beat the Empire in the King Exit's timeline.
Regarding the white phantoms, I think with the hero's shied they are pretty much invincible vs the demon and still a very tough opponent vs. human.

Maybe with permanent brainwashing and nursery the demons can beat the imperial army, but they'd still have to deal with tens of thousands of white phantom and the ultra beast buffed by the hero's shied the emperor have at his disposal. Even if the demons somehow learned about the hero's shied they still need to get through the lands of the empire to destroy it. If the demon army were able to approach the empire's land, Blessed Curse would likely take an active approach in wiping out the demons with his white phantoms and ultra beast.

Maybe the hero's shied could be destroyed if a brainwashed Kudan were sent on a stealth mission to do so.

Regarding the ultra beast, yeah Kudan is strong and only defeated by two S tier opponent, but the ultra beast still one shot Dealthpolca's party (Mebius/Geolund included) during the true ending route, so I'd think Kudan is still a very little threat against the white phantom ultra beast. I firmly believe the only way the demons can deal with the ultra beast is with another ultra beast (Fuh won't help bc no dealthpolca) or they manage to destroy Blessed Curse's true body by learning and getting into the reversed world tree. On that topic, the reversed world tree is also deep in the Empire (basicly same problem with the hero's shied) and they need someone who can communicate with it to know about it (again, no deathpolca).
 

Tahxeol

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I ask as I see people who seem to know King Exit here:
I'm in NG+. How exactly can you activate the monument in the lave dungeon?
And about what happened to Kudan if DR go in the first branch, is it speculation, something the creator said, or something in KE that I missed?
 

SomePerson009

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I ask as I see people who seem to know King Exit here:
I'm in NG+. How exactly can you activate the monument in the lave dungeon?
And about what happened to Kudan if DR go in the first branch, is it speculation, something the creator said, or something in KE that I missed?
Kudan is an optional fight in the part where Arbent regains his memory. You go back to the ruined Cathedral after you beat Bellow's apprentices. I actually missed him on the first run.
 
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