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TKdropemoff

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I wanted to break the cycle of MC meeting a girl and fucking them after some conversation with a surprise twist. It was meant to be abrupt and unexpected so it can be impactful and seeing all the rage about it, I think it's done its job pretty well.

This whole game MC meets a girl and after some time he fucks them right? So, the player expects the same for Sarah's mother but, no! She was there to kill him from the beginning, she had the gun in her purse and was just waiting for the right moment.

I think an ending needs to make the player feel something, either good or bad. That's why I did, because I know this was the most impactful way of doing it. And believe me, the first draft even had a more fucked up ending, but I've changed it because I didn't have the heart to do that.

And you're right about the Serena bit, she had to go for MC to be complete. I was thinking of a classic goodbye, but why would she leave? MC's going to need even more help with that many children, It didn't make sense for her to just say goodbye and leave and MC would know that she's always there. This way he can be his own man without any crutches, is he going to be a successful one? Will see.
If it's not broke, don't fix it.

Nothing is wrong with a HAPPY EVER AFTER without forced drama to end a game man.. Not some forced crap to "make the player feel something" out of nowhere for shock value to end a game where it's the most important part of the MCs life.. Aka, his children being born.

This was just not good, at all. This was my top HAREM game, hell damn near of all time.. It was PERFECT in my opinion.. Sad how it ended. Oh well. Good luck with your next project, I will most likely pass tho....
 
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bobdillan

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No, I learned my lesson. All the characters of the next game is going to be immortal, and it's never going to end. 'Cause I just keep on adding random girls and milk it till the rest of my life.

Jokes aside, I'm sorry, okay? I tried something and thought it was fitting. I understand all the rage, and I'll try to be better for my next project, I always aim to improve. You can see that by looking at DR, and if I ever make an ending like this one, I'll make sure to give the player a couple of more options.

If you guys want to hate me for the rest of my life, I'm fine with that, if you want to try my next games feel free to do so because I want to make an even better harem game with DR2, but I wouldn't recommend Project: Pain cause that game is going to reflect all the fucked up things in this world.
You've already lost trust... good luck getting it back.

Only way to recover would be to add a decent ending for this project, not a "Trust me bro." for the next one.

Cause that still leaves this one ruined and most feeling betrayed... And that response is a massive cop-out that makes you look like a.... well you know.

I'd have thought the loss of subs would have made this obvious to you.

But seems the self-delusion is too strong.

O and to add icing on the cake, you have a daughter named after the girl in MC's heaad, that's going to fuck new MC... so you're round-a-bout cucking this MC :KEK:

especially after hinting at some Father-daughter dynamic to then bitch out.
 

Saberhades

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You've already lost trust... good luck getting it back.

Only way to recover would be to add a decent ending for this project, not a "Trust me bro." for the next one.

Cause that still leaves this one ruined and most feeling betrayed... And that response is a massive cop-out that makes you look like a.... well you know.

I'd have thought the loss of subs would have made this obvious to you.

But seems the self-delusion is too strong.

O and to add icing on the cake, you have a daughter named after the girl in MC's heaad, that's going to fuck new MC... so you're round-a-bout cucking this MC :KEK:

especially after hinting at some Father-daughter dynamic to then bitch out.
Bro, I was speechless after this fucking ending tbh, hell I played this game since 2021. WTF is this. where're the wedding dresses? How did this crazy bitch manage to carry a bag with gun during fucking? The dev fucked up hard. good luck my ass to his next project!!
 
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I downloaded and went through the hoops, I am nonplussed by the experience.
However, the logic of the world one builds should follow itself by its own rules, within that world, and it shouldn't require outside meta-exposition by the gods to make it settle with the reader, But I'm not here to tell anybody how to be. I don't understand the social logic of half the AVNs on here, they may as well have been written by someone from another species, but in a way that's part of the fun.
Saved me a download, thanks bud
 
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Seacth

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Bro, I was speechless after this fucking ending tbh, hell I played this game since 2021. WTF is this. where're the wedding dresses? How did this crazy bitch manage to carry a bag with gun during fucking? The dev fucked up hard. good luck my ass to his next project!!
Check the scene, the bag is always there.
 

Seacth

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You've already lost trust... good luck getting it back.

Only way to recover would be to add a decent ending for this project, not a "Trust me bro." for the next one.

Cause that still leaves this one ruined and most feeling betrayed... And that response is a massive cop-out that makes you look like a.... well you know.

I'd have thought the loss of subs would have made this obvious to you.

But seems the self-delusion is too strong.

O and to add icing on the cake, you have a daughter named after the girl in MC's heaad, that's going to fuck new MC... so you're round-a-bout cucking this MC :KEK:

especially after hinting at some Father-daughter dynamic to then bitch out.
I didn't hint shit, you're just delusional about a thing that was never there. That scene was meant to give MC courage to show him he can be a good father, not a tease of him fucking his daughters. It was a dream sequence as well, we don't even know if his daughters are going to look like that. Serena doesn't have the power to predict the future, she just makes a made-up scene to give him courage and that's it.
 

Sossse

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i think it has been well established by now that pretty much nobody liked the ending. could we maybe turn down the negativety a bit. rest of the game is overall seen in a positiv light and it seems dev got the message. nothing good will come from further harassing excapt maybe discurage him from making another game, which might turn out much better now that he "learned his lesson"...
 
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KingSet

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Where did you get that idea? DR2 is going to take place in a different country and has no connections to the first game other than Serena, who's going to be our old MC's daughter who ran away from the house

And no one's dying, why would they die?
We're not sure if MC is a better man either
Apparently he's not not if his daughter is running away from home to a whole different country to get shagged by some dude
 

saiko422

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I didn't hint shit, you're just delusional about a thing that was never there. That scene was meant to give MC courage to show him he can be a good father, not a tease of him fucking his daughters. It was a dream sequence as well, we don't even know if his daughters are going to look like that. Serena doesn't have the power to predict the future, she just makes a made-up scene to give him courage and that's it.
Wtf this guy really thinks MC will fuck his daughter because he named it serena LOL. He named it that way to thank and remember the help of an important person who sacrificed herself to help him has this great happiness. After thinking back, I think this ending was really good. That shot for the MC was like a "wake up call" for him. He is carrying a huge responsibility towards the people he loves and loves him but he is too careless, subjective and cocky.

The last scene I thought was a small scene in the future, not a dream. So that dream created by serena proves that she's still there just can't interact with the mc anymore? If so, the ending is quite good because the drama makes the story more emotional, helps the mc grow up and helps himself and others realize each other's responsibility and importance.

Good luck to your next game. I understand people's anger towards this ending because they expect a peaceful and perfect ending especially with harem games. Plot details to make the story more exciting, more emotional, help understand the characters more deeply and help them develop themselves are necessary for good vn but in my opinion they should be happens at the beginning, middle, or any point in the story other than the ending. If you say that sometimes life is unfair and not what everyone wants and that applies to the MC, but this is a harem game, it is already something of a fantasy. People choose pure harem games like this because they expect it to be filled with happiness at the end

If you want Serena to sacrifice to make it more meaningful, you should put it before the ending. Maybe many people still don't like it but it reduces people's anger because it will calm people down after serena's disappearance, they focus on looking at happy scenes and lewd scenes XD and also understand The message you want to convey through Serena's sacrifice. You go from happiness-> drama-> pain and sadness--> happiness again but the last "happiness" has too few scenes to comfort everyone after the previous drama scene
 
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saiko422

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Apparently he's not not if his daughter is running away from home to a whole different country to get shagged by some dude
" It was a dream sequence as well, we don't even know if his daughters are going to look like that. Serena doesn't have the power to predict the future, she just makes a made-up scene to give him courage and that's it. "
Even if it's a scene in the future, please don't think he will fuck his daughter just because he fucked his mom and sister. Maybe he wants his daughter to live near them or is overprotective and the daughter wants to explore the world or she finds something strange but dangerous and wants to explore it?
What's wrong with everyone here? Mc fucked his mom and sister and now everyone expects him to fuck his daughters? If he doesn't do that then people consider him get ntr?Wtf???? And "some dude" you mean only one and it's the mc of the next story? What's wrong with that? Perhaps the new mc is even more "he is him" than this mc LOL
 
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KingSet

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" It was a dream sequence as well, we don't even know if his daughters are going to look like that. Serena doesn't have the power to predict the future, she just makes a made-up scene to give him courage and that's it. "
Even if it's a scene in the future, please don't think he will fuck his daughter just because he fucked his mom and sister. Maybe he wants his daughter to live near them or is overprotective and the daughter wants to explore the world or she finds something strange but dangerous and wants to explore it?
What's wrong with everyone here? Mc fucked his mom and sister and now everyone expects him to fuck his daughters? If he doesn't do that then people consider him get ntr?Wtf???? And "some dude" you mean only one and it's the mc of the next story? What's wrong with that? Perhaps the new mc is even more "he is him" than this mc LOL
Man really wrote a wall of text to put words in my mouth. I never expected MC to bang her since dev said no to that, but clearly he's gonna be a failed father regardless

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saiko422

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Man really wrote a wall of text to put words in my mouth. I never expected MC to bang her since dev said no to that, but clearly he's gonna be a failed father regardless

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Ok, my bad and sorry about that. As for his daughter who left home, we don't know the reason yet? and the dev himself said it was a dream, maybe serana did that so that the mc would be motivated to be a better father so his daughter wouldn't leave like that.
Assuming it's true, maybe the girl wants to go to college in another country and the mc doesn't want that or she's an active girl who likes to learn/quite explore things and she found something mysterious but it's dangerous and MC stops her so she decides to leave alone? Dev doesn't even know what's going to happen yet, how can you claim that mc will be a failure as a father? Remember he has a bunch of wives there ready to help him like the same way they took care of each other while mc was unconscious. Imagine you have 5 good wives and some of them have experience raising children. It must be a miracle that you failed at being a father. Dev says "We're not sure if MC is a better man either" not in the sense of "good man" but in becoming better without serena, better than the version with serena's help
 
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unholy baker

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No matter how you'd have ended it, some people would've been unhappy. Haven't played this game in a long time, so I can't comment either way. Anyway, congratulations on finishing the game, Seacth. Considering most western H games go into perpetuity even when they run out of steam just to milk Patrons, I appreciate the fact you put a conclusion to the story, despite the financial risk.

Especially being a serial(non-H) game dev with no shipped products, I appreciate you seeing it through to the end.
 
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Bradd D

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i think it has been well established by now that pretty much nobody liked the ending. could we maybe turn down the negativety a bit. rest of the game is overall seen in a positiv light and it seems dev got the message. nothing good will come from further harassing excapt maybe discurage him from making another game, which might turn out much better now that he "learned his lesson"...
The ending was an Olympic level of stupid. There's really nothing to learn from it, and saying "lesson learned" just doesn't cut it for a game that spent several years in development only to get trashed in the end and to slap everyone in the face who supported it. Lots of luck to the dev going forward with this hanging over them. They're gonna need it.
 
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