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Seacth

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Wtf this guy really thinks MC will fuck his daughter because he named it serena LOL. He named it that way to thank and remember the help of an important person who sacrificed herself to help him has this great happiness. After thinking back, I think this ending was really good. That shot for the MC was like a "wake up call" for him. He is carrying a huge responsibility towards the people he loves and loves him but he is too careless, subjective and cocky.

The last scene I thought was a small scene in the future, not a dream. So that dream created by serena proves that she's still there just can't interact with the mc anymore? If so, the ending is quite good because the drama makes the story more emotional, helps the mc grow up and helps himself and others realize each other's responsibility and importance.

Good luck to your next game. I understand people's anger towards this ending because they expect a peaceful and perfect ending especially with harem games. Plot details to make the story more exciting, more emotional, help understand the characters more deeply and help them develop themselves are necessary for good vn but in my opinion they should be happens at the beginning, middle, or any point in the story other than the ending. If you say that sometimes life is unfair and not what everyone wants and that applies to the MC, but this is a harem game, it is already something of a fantasy. People choose pure harem games like this because they expect it to be filled with happiness at the end

If you want Serena to sacrifice to make it more meaningful, you should put it before the ending. Maybe many people still don't like it but it reduces people's anger because it will calm people down after serena's disappearance, they focus on looking at happy scenes and lewd scenes XD and also understand The message you want to convey through Serena's sacrifice. You go from happiness-> drama-> pain and sadness--> happiness again but the last "happiness" has too few scenes to comfort everyone after the previous drama scene
The last scene after the credits is not a dream, it is in fact the future. Where we see our old MC as an old, grown man. The dream I was talking about is the scene where we see MC's 'future daughters'.

I'm going to extend the ending a little bit more to give more context of MC's situation, tho.
 
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Sossse

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The ending was an Olympic level of stupid [...]
the fact that you are passionate about the downfall of the game towards the end means you were at least somewhat infested in the game overall, right? :) you stated your oppinion (which seems to be more or less everyones oppinion) that the ending was not to your liking. now imagin the dev makes another game which you might be even more found of since he know has a better understand of what his audience wants. blasting him with such a hudge amount of negativity at his point, when all has already been said, is just unproduktive is what im trying to say :/
 

GokutheG

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the fact that you are passionate about the downfall of the game towards the end means you were at least somewhat infested in the game overall, right? :) you stated your oppinion (which seems to be more or less everyones oppinion) that the ending was not to your liking. now imagin the dev makes another game which you might be even more found of since he know has a better understand of what his audience wants. blasting him with such a hudge amount of negativity at his point, when all has already been said, is just unproduktive is what im trying to say :/
Why do you think someone would give the dev's new game a chance if the previous one was a disappointment? Why would someone risk another disappointment?
 

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the fact that you are passionate about the downfall of the game towards the end means you were at least somewhat infested in the game overall, right? :) you stated your oppinion (which seems to be more or less everyones oppinion) that the ending was not to your liking. now imagin the dev makes another game which you might be even more found of since he know has a better understand of what his audience wants. blasting him with such a hudge amount of negativity at his point, when all has already been said, is just unproduktive is what im trying to say :/
LoL, RofLmAo even, why the hell would you put your second hand into the woodchipper after you lost your first hand to exactly the same experiment?
 

TigerWolfe

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Why do you think someone would give the dev's new game a chance if the previous one was a disappointment? Why would someone risk another disappointment?
Because there's literally no reason not to... A disappointment in an AVN, that you most likely didn't pay for, has no impact on you... There's literally no cost or reason to not give it a shot. Unless you're weirdly over invested in made up stories.
 

Bradd D

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the fact that you are passionate about the downfall of the game towards the end means you were at least somewhat infested in the game overall, right? :) you stated your oppinion (which seems to be more or less everyones oppinion) that the ending was not to your liking. now imagin the dev makes another game which you might be even more found of since he know has a better understand of what his audience wants. blasting him with such a hudge amount of negativity at his point, when all has already been said, is just unproduktive is what im trying to say :/
Which is why I said lots of luck with anything he produces going forward, as I have no further interest for a number of reasons.

How productive is it when the same dev is telling people "fuck off" because they didn't like a garbage ending?
 
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BeenThroughHell

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Where did you get that idea? DR2 is going to take place in a different country and has no connections to the first game other than Serena, who's going to be our old MC's daughter who ran away from the house. Like I said before, the old cast is only going to be a real minor part of the second game.

And no one's dying, why would they die?
are you saying serena, this Game MC's daughter will be a friend for the MC of your new game? Kindly explain it.
 

KingSet

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Because there's literally no reason not to... A disappointment in an AVN, that you most likely didn't pay for, has no impact on you... There's literally no cost or reason to not give it a shot. Unless you're weirdly over invested in made up stories.
People's time is the cost. Time that could have been devoted to some other game(s) that might not have left them feeling disappointed
 

Leo D. Marstone

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Because there's literally no reason not to... A disappointment in an AVN, that you most likely didn't pay for, has no impact on you... There's literally no cost or reason to not give it a shot. Unless you're weirdly over invested in made up stories.
People are over invested for far less on here. :HideThePain: I can understand the reasoning not wanting to try out the next project though.
couse excapt for the ending it was quite good?
Except the ending is most of the time the most important part of a game?

Let me throw out my example again of the ending of the Remake of FVII. As dumb as it sounds the change and inclusion of certain elements just overshadowed my whole experience I had with the game. If I think back to it now I only have the bad ending in mind and not the fun ride I had up to this point and didn't look forward to the next installment. Haven't bought Rebirth and most likely I never will.

Exactly this happened to literally 90% to the playerbase here on F95. I also do believe that, contrary to the devs statement, that some paying supporters didn't like the ending as well. The contrast is too much. I dunno haha

Anyway it is still rare to see this outburst of negativity for a completed game on here even days after and I am sure the dev never anticipated this. At the end of the day it still is the devs decision what to do with his own game but it should tell you nonetheless, maybe, what not to do again going forward xD

Making small steps through the game myself since I don't have that much time in the moment but I look forward to see the ending for myself and make my own mind up about it.


Edit: Why the hate for the inclusion of the MC's daughter in the new game? I don't see any harm because it is a new story isolated from the first game though.:HideThePain:
 
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LordofDerp

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Just completed a full first time playtrough start to finish.
Congratulations on the completion of this game OP, Rare to see in this genre.
The ending was a little left field but I didn't mind it at all.
Didn't feel truly organic to me but also didn't feel rushed or forced, ofc most people would love that perfect fairly tale ending but I appreciate this wasn't one, makes it memorable.

ty again and best of luck on your next project, will keep an eye out :)
 

EF.Sora

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I think a lot of people who are furious about the ending were probably mid-stroke or something, but I do agree the ending could've been handled better. I have a lot of little issues with the story overall (Pacing and shit), but my biggest issue is:
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But GGs on finishing. like many have said; it's more than a lot of others have done. Good luck on your future projects.
 
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bobdillan

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I didn't hint shit, you're just delusional about a thing that was never there. That scene was meant to give MC courage to show him he can be a good father, not a tease of him fucking his daughters. It was a dream sequence as well, we don't even know if his daughters are going to look like that. Serena doesn't have the power to predict the future, she just makes a made-up scene to give him courage and that's it.
Delusional is thinking that ending would go well and having MC's daughter fuck another dude when it's an incest game is a good idea.

But keep coping as you lose players.

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*Writes shit ending*

*Shocked people hate the shit ending*

:KEK:

edit: Uth wants their 5 stars back. and gives a 1 star in return. Too bad they got perma banned :LUL:

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Berlioz-7

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Well this end was depressing. I really loved the cast, the storylines, the progression. That ending really left a bad taste in my mouth it reminds me so much of Domestic Kanojo's unnecessary drama in the last chapters and it really soiled it for me. I don't think I can recommend this game to anyone anymore.
 

Chris2041

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Ok, my bad and sorry about that. As for his daughter who left home, we don't know the reason yet? and the dev himself said it was a dream, maybe serana did that so that the mc would be motivated to be a better father so his daughter wouldn't leave like that.
Assuming it's true, maybe the girl wants to go to college in another country and the mc doesn't want that or she's an active girl who likes to learn/quite explore things and she found something mysterious but it's dangerous and MC stops her so she decides to leave alone? Dev doesn't even know what's going to happen yet, how can you claim that mc will be a failure as a father? Remember he has a bunch of wives there ready to help him like the same way they took care of each other while mc was unconscious. Imagine you have 5 good wives and some of them have experience raising children. It must be a miracle that you failed at being a father. Dev says "We're not sure if MC is a better man either" not in the sense of "good man" but in becoming better without serena, better than the version with serena's help
Maybe he is a bad father because he lost a lot of moments whit hos daughters and spend a lot of time in a coma .
It was to hard to give him a good ending this ending really take a toll on me it was so easy to make ot good but no lets go for the drama and shock value people will love it
 

KingSet

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People are over invested for far less on here. :HideThePain: I can understand the reasoning not wanting to try out the next project though.


Exactly this happened to literally 90% to the playerbase here on F95. I also do believe that, contrary to the devs statement, that some paying supporters didn't like the ending as well. The contrast is too much. I dunno haha
I'm not in dev's game discord so I can't speak for the whole group there, but I know two dudes from other places that were subbed to him and cancelled over this ending. So he was lying through his teeth when he said a few pages back that absolutely all his paying supporters loved the ending
 
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