that's a bit of a misrepresentation, when you consider you're talking about a grand total of 3-4 scenes in the entire game...this type of content and the like started to take more and more of the overall content made for this game.
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I was just about to say...after doing a count.that's a bit of a misrepresentation, when you consider you're talking about a grand total of 3-4 scenes in the entire game...
actually, not even that.. it's parts of scenes.. because every one of those scenes can also be played out without sharing... so it's not like you are losing out on a scene if you play it without the sharing. there's no actual loss of content, just loss of options you don't like anyway... much like you can enjoy Asha's scene in the intro and still get to play it even if you're not into watersports, or you can finish on Ain instead of Zahra in the massage scene, if you so choose.
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I don't even know if we can even have a conversation about this since the moderator decided to delete my comment and told me to stop criticizing the game.that's a bit of a misrepresentation, when you consider you're talking about a grand total of 3-4 scenes in the entire game...
actually, not even that.. it's parts of scenes.. because every one of those scenes can also be played out without sharing... so it's not like you are losing out on a scene if you play it without the sharing. there's no actual loss of content, just loss of options you don't like anyway... much like you can enjoy Asha's scene in the intro and still get to play it even if you're not into watersports, or you can finish on Ain instead of Zahra in the massage scene, if you so choose.
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From a certain point of view I think it could be argued that, even if you aren't losing a scene, you are losing content by opting out of sharing. E.g. if the game had not sharing, the boob-job that Zahra gives to Igor would have been given to Zaton instead (or the dev times spent creating those animations would have been repurposed toward some other content), so ultimately the player who chooses not to enable sharing is still getting “less” than if sharing wasn't in the game to begin with.so it's not like you are losing out on a scene if you play it without the sharing
In general it's not a tit-for-tat in that case. It doesn't mean that if the Igor part was not in the game, the Zaton part would be twice as big. It could very well be 50 renders of Zaton riding a camel in the desert for all we know.From a certain point of view I think it could be argued that, even if you aren't losing a scene, you are losing content by opting out of sharing. E.g. if the game had not sharing, the boob-job that Zahra gives to Igor would have been given to Zaton instead (or the dev times spent creating those animations would have been repurposed toward some other content), so ultimately the player who chooses not to enable sharing is still getting “less” than if sharing wasn't in the game to begin with.
From a certain point of view I think it could be argued that, even if you aren't losing a scene, you are losing content by opting out of sharing. E.g. if the game had not sharing, the boob-job that Zahra gives to Igor would have been given to Zaton instead (or the dev times spent creating those animations would have been repurposed toward some other content), so ultimately the player who chooses not to enable sharing is still getting “less” than if sharing wasn't in the game to begin with.
Oh I agree with you 100%. Ultimately, it's just people saying, “Spend less time making stuff I don't like and more making the stuff I do.” It's just that the usual answer to this—“You're not losing out because you can avoid it”— I feel also misses the point somewhat, for the reasons I just mentioned. Essentially, I was just playing Devil's advocate.In general it's not a tit-for-tat in that case. It doesn't mean that if the Igor part was not in the game, the Zaton part would be twice as big. It could very well be 50 renders of Zaton riding a camel in the desert for all we know.
There's not a quota of "sex renders" we allocate on each update where sharing and other kinks have to fight for a share of the pie.
That said, your premise of "if this didn't exist, the time could be spent to other things I enjoy more" may be sound, but it's also flawed in the sense this can be said about any kink in the game. Hell, any aspect of the game.
- "Why does the dev spend time on gory scenes, people don't like it and it's a waste of time".
- "Why is watersports in the game, eww. Maybe the dev could use the time to make something else."
- "Why is the MC a rough idiot, I'd prefer more wholesome love."
- "Why is the MC having a loving path? Plenty of games for that, make it rough only."
- "Why is the MC even leaving the house in the first place? He should stay there 24/7 and sex everyone. Pointless roaming around renders."
You see, if we based our thought process on all of these we'd end up making a big ball of nothing.
well i dont know what igor got in that scene nor i care for, but rest got nice 4some instead + Kateryna is moving in with us, i would say its good dealFrom a certain point of view I think it could be argued that, even if you aren't losing a scene, you are losing content by opting out of sharing. E.g. if the game had not sharing, the boob-job that Zahra gives to Igor would have been given to Zaton instead (or the dev times spent creating those animations would have been repurposed toward some other content), so ultimately the player who chooses not to enable sharing is still getting “less” than if sharing wasn't in the game to begin with.
The thing is, Desert Stalker was kind of a harem with no hints of sharing, until the decision was made to make sharing a thing, thus the rewrites, right? You made sharing optional, that's less bad, but I ask you, what "breaks" the harem kink? Sharing.Hell, any aspect of the game.
sorry to hear that... seems unnecessarily harsh. I don't mind discussing the game and it's development, especially in a mature way and with a constructive conversation going, as long as it's fact based.I don't even know if we can even have a conversation about this since the moderator decided to delete my comment and told me to stop criticizing the game.
That was changed to remove potential inconsistenciesBut about the rewrites, the protagonist's dialogue with his younger daughter, in the beginning, was changed so that only he can touch her to "only people that he allows can touch her".
I am fairly positive that that's not what happened... I wrote the library entries, and the whole hospitality rules including also, potentially, sharing the sexual favours of slaves and/or members of the family was always going to be part of the worldbuilding. If nothing else, it's the foundation that makes it so that Zaton can get away with doing the things he does.The codex of the game was also rewritten to the fact that it's normal to share the women of one's house with visitors.
I intensely dislike this line of reasoning.. and I am not having a go at you in particular.From a certain point of view I think it could be argued that, even if you aren't losing a scene, you are losing content by opting out of sharing. E.g. if the game had not sharing, the boob-job that Zahra gives to Igor would have been given to Zaton instead (or the dev times spent creating those animations would have been repurposed toward some other content), so ultimately the player who chooses not to enable sharing is still getting “less” than if sharing wasn't in the game to begin with.
only if you decide to go down that route.. if you don't your harem fantasy remains pristine and intact.. the notion that the mere existence of the option to not go that route somehow ruins it is moronic...The thing is, Desert Stalker was kind of a harem with no hints of sharing, until the decision was made to make sharing a thing, thus the rewrites, right? You made sharing optional, that's less bad, but I ask you, what "breaks" the harem kink? Sharing.
except that has never happened, and we have given nobody any reason to think that that might even be a possibility, so again, we are in the realm of "yeah.. but it's possible"... which just isn't an argument.And the fact that there is no quota for the type of content that is made, meaning that you could very well drop an update with sharing scenes only, just reinforces the idea that people that abhor sharing or similar content should not be invested that much in this game IMO. Because you're making no guarantees that could very well happen.
it's possible that ZetanDS goes to live in an ashram and never finishes the game..
Precisely. To become a patron, and a supporter of the game, trust is necessary, right? If there is no guarantee, even something like, "sharing will never become a major thing, the priority will always be the scenes with no sharing", do you agree with me that the risk of supporting the game (which always exists, the developer could get hit by a meteor tomorrow, as you said) gets bigger for the people that hate this type of content?so why bother playing it at all?
HmmmIf I had to pick something, I'd say I might like to encounter an adversary who is truly up to the task of being MC's arch nemesis and physical equal on the battlefield. Maybe a fallen or rival male Stalker. I thought General might have been the one but Zion took care of that.
I'll see how the Lord Abrax situation unravels, time will tell.
I would say that trust is earned over time and over consistent communication and development.Precisely. To become a patron, and a supporter of the game, trust is necessary, right? If there is no guarantee, even something like, "sharing will never become a major thing, the priority will always be the scenes with no sharing", do you agree with me that the risk of supporting the game (which always exists, the developer could get hit by a meteor tomorrow, as you said) gets bigger for the people that hate this type of content?
That was my original post, I don't recommend people that hate sharing or netorase getting invested in this game. By all means, the developer should make the content that they want to make, but you must assume the risk of alienating part of your audience when going to certain types of fetishes.
I have a genuine question. Does it lessen your experience that such content is simply there, tucked away, never to be encountered apart from that initial question on whether you like to enable it or not?Precisely. To become a patron, and a supporter of the game, trust is necessary, right? If there is no guarantee, even something like, "sharing will never become a major thing, the priority will always be the scenes with no sharing", do you agree with me that the risk of supporting the game (which always exists, the developer could get hit by a meteor tomorrow, as you said) gets bigger for the people that hate this type of content?
That was my original post, I don't recommend people that hate sharing or netorase getting invested in this game. By all means, the developer should make the content that they want to make, but you must assume the risk of alienating part of your audience when going to certain types of fetishes.
Now that you mention it, I do remember that guy. Definitely looks like he could go toe to toe with our intrepid MC. Although, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a rival male Stalker. Perhaps one that is completely devoted to the queen if your MC is not. Or vice versa...plots against the queen if you are a total simp for her. He may plot a takeover of not only the queen and her realm, but of your villa. That could lead to interesting confrontation. If someone threatens your family, you are going to be out for blood.Hmmm
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Dude.for one thing, the chances of the MC crossdressing, putting on a wig and being pegged are so low that it does not need to be said except to fuck with Kellermann![]()
Anything I'd want to include in this game specifically? or in any game?This 'perfect world' topic makes me think...is there anything I would want included in game that I haven't seen yet?
I don't know. I feel like DS has given just about everything I could possibly want in an AVN.
Why are you saying that like you think they are mutually exclusive...... I can't help but finding them a bit unreasonable or insecure, I'm not sure which.
WTF, you mean I've been wasting my time with this game!!!...the chances of the MC crossdressing, putting on a wig and being pegged are so low that it does not need to be said...