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(Trust me, I'm not happy its suddenly got included either. Hopefully Dev takes note of the fan backlash with the multiple pages of deleted posts from fans not liking the new options, but luckily its avoidable and we will have to wait and see if this is a one time thing or will continue to come up in the future.)
Slight objection on the "suddenly" part. It did not come out of the blue. Here's an excerpt from the very first release, when you meet Ain for the first time.
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Slight objection on the "suddenly" part. It did not come out of the blue. Here's an excerpt from the very first release, when you meet Ain for the first time.
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So the last line was the misnomer for me.
"That's right, and from now on you will dress like this only when I tell you to."
I took this as "You will only dress like this if I tell you to"
not
"You will only let people touch you when I tell you to"

My bad for not seeing how that one line about scolding your daughter's outfit from the first release would lead to MC offering his daughter as a blow toy for a guest.

Sorry, not frustrated at you Paz, was just so verily caught off guard by the option popping up. I shouldn't bitch, at least its avoidable, and hopefully Dev will see the visceral reaction for what it was, a group of fans going "NANI?!?! No thank you."
 
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Paz

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So the last line was the misnomer for me.
"That's right, and from now on you will dress like this only when I tell you to."
I took this as "You will only dress like this if I tell you to"
not
"You will only let people touch you when I tell you to"

My bad for not seeing how that one line about scolding your daughter's outfit from the first release would lead to MC offering his daughter as a blow toy for a guest.
It was actually relevant to both. "That's right" -concerning the previous sentence- and clothes something something. ;)

Sorry, not frustrated at you Paz, was just so verily caught off guard by the option popping up. I shouldn't bitch, at least its avoidable, and hopefully Dev will see the visceral reaction for what it was, a group of fans going "NANI?!?! No thank you."
No worries, absolutely no offense taken.
And as long as people can enjoy the rest of the game without having to ever worry about that (since it's actively not happening if you choose to not do so, and not just something off-screen), it's all good in my books.
 
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so if you choose to save the girl at the beginning of the game (when you are looking for gas) do you not get the bathroom scene with the slave?

if you let the guy kill you get the bathroom scene, and if you buy her you don't get the "maid", why dev? just why
 

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so if you choose to save the girl at the beginning of the game (when you are looking for gas) do you not get the bathroom scene with the slave?

if you let the guy kill you get the bathroom scene, and if you buy her you don't get the "maid", why dev? just why
One of the above might be wrong ;)
Also, that's how choices are supposed to work. Choices without impact are non-choices.
 

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We fixed both of these issues in the patch.. and by "we" I mean Paz. Download the patch and it should not happen again.
(Trust me, I'm not happy its suddenly got included either. Hopefully Dev takes note of the fan backlash with the multiple pages of deleted posts from fans not liking the new options, but luckily its avoidable and we will have to wait and see if this is a one time thing or will continue to come up in the future.)
If I am allowed to toot our own horn on this occasion, I would like to take the chance of pointing out something... (not specifically answering to your concern but kind of in a generic way).
I have played games with particular kinks or fetishes blocked behind a "do not want to see it", where the locked thing still happens in universe... and can be referred to afterwards by the characters... others were the player decides a priori not to include the possibility of these things happening in the game.
Our way of handling sexy times is such that step by step, the player, by way of the MC is in control....and I mean "in game".
An analogy that is fairly fitting is...you go to a pub with your SO... you leave them at the bar and go to the toilet. As you return, you can tell there's someone trying to chat them up. In real life, you can then make the decision of letting them deal with the situation themselves or intervene and tell the third party that the person is spoken for.
if you take the latter course of action, the potential "cuck/cheating/sharing" does not happen and stays not happened.
In our game, it's pretty much the same. The MC decides if he allows certain situations to happen, when, with whom and why. And if his choice is to show his control by making the other person sit on their thumbs and watch or by not having anything happen at all, then, in universe, his decision is what determines whether something happens or not.

I feel it's an approach I haven't seen happen in any games that come to mind. (I can bear to stand corrected on that account)
so.. if you're not into sharing or ntr or whatever label you might want to attach to it..in universe, it does not need to happen. that there are images in the relevant folder that do contain that content becomes irrelevant, as long as you resist the temptation to go look for it... so it is, and always will be, on the player to make the decisions that better suit their tastes.

Yes, I accept that one such decision could be to drop the game entirely. To that, I would hope that a player that has enjoyed the rest the game has to offer, would consider to give us the benefit of the doubt and accept that there will always be enough content to satisfy their tastes. Whatever your personal flavour of NTR adversion or affinity may be, the game is and always will be primarily about an MC who rules the roost and makes use of the women at his disposal however he sees fit, whether this means hoarding them for his exclusive use within the limits of their availability to him, or by sharing when he deems appropriate.

I hope that this somehow mitigates the anxiety the subject causes in people.

lol that seems like the dev is giving corporal punishment to his fans for some reason! ugh
I'm not the main dev, but depending on geographical proximity and covid regulations, I am willing to consider obliging, if that's your kink :D
 

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How big is the choice for the queen? The one where you can go all out, or make some veiled threats by whispering to her.

I want to show her whose the boss, but I generally like the more subtle approach than abandoning self preservation and going ham on the queen lol.

Will I still be able to dom her by doing the subtle approach?
 
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How big is the choice for the queen? The one where you can go all out, or make some veiled threats by whispering to her.

I want to show her whose the boss, but I generally like the more subtle approach than abandoning self preservation and going ham on the queen lol.

Will I still be able to dom her by doing the subtle approach?
the specifics of that are stills subject of definition, so the only possible answer to that is that I don't know yet... either way, it won't happen soon
 

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How big is the choice for the queen? The one where you can go all out, or make some veiled threats by whispering to her.

I want to show her whose the boss, but I generally like the more subtle approach than abandoning self preservation and going ham on the queen lol.

Will I still be able to dom her by doing the subtle approach?
Personally, I think it's pretty clear she gets turned on when someone actually stands up to her.
 

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Reading the comments here I am surprised by those who can't pass the game without walkthrough, asking to simplify the game and get rid of the newly added fetish.

Playing the game implies overcoming obstacles on the way to the goal and dealing with consequences. In this game, to get all the girls you simply just have to not let them die and not kill them yourself, YES, simple as that. This game is simple as pick choice how you want to win your opponent, you don't need to even think about tactics or anything else combat-related. The only exception it's the first quest in pyramid, where you can get the game over. But so far, it's was only a one-time thing. So, taking into account all this, maybe these people should consider reading kinetic novels or watching porn instead of playing games? I'm pretty sure, most people who played this game don't have any problems with multiple consequences depending on your actions, they just don't post about it since there is simply no need for it. And I'm personally wouldn't want if this game, or any other, which I like would turn into another railroad story where choices mean nothing and all gameplay consists of clicking on these meaningless choices. Yes, I personally would like if devs give the player some sort of challenge, where would be, if not the combat mechanics, but at least tricky dialogue options, that make you think which answer to choose, otherwise there will be negative consequences, that will not lead to the game over but will cause some losses.

Regarding newly added sharing options. I was surprised that it was added only recently, knowing how Ain behaved from the very beginning. More than that, it's a post-apocalyptic themed game where society was destroyed and there are no moral norms anymore, different factions treat people as property objects (And the MC not the exception), not like living beings and it's kinda obvious that such a thing exists in this world. I was a bit confused that before this update there were scenes, where we either kill girls or watch how they suffer, for example, how it was with a slave girl, who was beaten by her master and if the player did nothing, he just continued beat her, not fuck her or else, it gives some ryona vibes, which I wasn't very happy about. As this update came out, it's clear that a new fetish is completely optional, so all whining about it is completely pointless. I also don't like many things, like trans characters, but I don't write angry comments, even if it was added to please some small group of people. Because if this is the main theme of the game, I simply don't play it, if it's an additional fetish, I will pretend that this thing simply not exist in the game. As I said above, this new fetish has logical and lore justification, it feels natural, not like it was forced on a player. And we already have around 80% of games featuring harem without any string attached, it's really hard to find any game where the devs won't be scared to add something besides vanilla content.

In any case, I have said enough, but it is just as important to praise the developers for the new update. The plot wheels starting to move faster and it becomes more complex. The scene with the Queen was... impressive, to say the least. It evoked associations with Game of Thrones, when Ramsay was torturing people, gross thing but good in terms of character development since it perfectly reveals the true nature of the queen.

As for sex scenes, they definitely become better with additional pictures in them, still a pity that there are no animations, but at least high-quality renders and girls variety don't keep you bored.
 

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Also why hide the quick menu?! That thing is actually useful specially for skip, auto and quick save options
Can we make this a standard Renpy rule please, dear Devs? I mean if you buy a "professional" (no offense) VN on steam or on your Switch for example, they ALWAYS have a QM.
I really don't understand the need to hide the thing. In my humble opinion it should be the other way round: If you think it's best for the game to hide the qm, you should give us the option to do it.
 

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Can we make this a standard Renpy rule please, dear Devs? I mean if you buy a "professional" (no offense) VN on steam or on your Switch for example, they ALWAYS have a QM.
I really don't understand the need to hide the thing. In my humble opinion it should be the other way round: If you think it's best for the game to hide the qm, you should give us the option to do it.
At the very least, LEAVE THE AUTO. The other stuff can be accessed by other means, but auto is gone if you remove that button.
 
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the specifics of that are stills subject of definition, so the only possible answer to that is that I don't know yet... either way, it won't happen soon
I hope you'll give several options to the players, i.e. the MC standing up to her or the MC being her devoted subject. Fun both ways for me ;)
Keep up with the good job you're doing, going for variety and multiple kinks\choices is like going for quality. Now I'm officially hyped for your project.
 
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Can we make this a standard Renpy rule please, dear Devs? I mean if you buy a "professional" (no offense) VN on steam or on your Switch for example, they ALWAYS have a QM.
I really don't understand the need to hide the thing. In my humble opinion it should be the other way round: If you think it's best for the game to hide the qm, you should give us the option to do it.
that has been addressed 2 posts below the one you react to.
 
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I hope you'll give several options to the players, i.e. the MC standing up to her or the MC being her devoted subject. Fun both ways for me ;)
Keep up with the good job you're doing, going for variety and multiple kinks\choices is like going for quality. Now I'm officially hyped for your project.
I believe it was a 3 way choice? You can be respectful the whole time. You can grab her arm and whisper to her that she should show you more respect or else...! You can scream at her and scare the shit out of her.

Just supporting her rule and winning her favor seems like one route. The other end is probably to dom the shit out of her, maybe even taking over.... I'm wondering if there is a third path with her. One where you keep up appearances and leave her as ruler, but you are basically the puppet master behind the scenes. I really like this version, maybe even more than just straight up overthrowing her. You know what I mean if you played Prison Battleship/Academia. The powerful women who everyone respects are secretly your plaything totally devoted to your pleasure.
 
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Can we make this a standard Renpy rule please, dear Devs? I mean if you buy a "professional" (no offense) VN on steam or on your Switch for example, they ALWAYS have a QM.
I really don't understand the need to hide the thing. In my humble opinion it should be the other way round: If you think it's best for the game to hide the qm, you should give us the option to do it.
im one of those who dont like "forced" QMs, even in "professional" vns.
usually the first thing for me there is to turn that shit off, by any means necessary...
yet, different people, diff tastes, impossible to please everyone, so whenever possible providing options/choices is for the best.
 

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I'm aware of the QM option in Dessert Stalker guys, I was generally speaking. You know, like: Can we make this a standard Renpy rule please, dear Devs?
 
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